What makes someone a “Conservative”?

[Toddsterpatriot]

You swallowed this load?

"Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Bank of New York President Timothy Geithner — rushed to Congress to get $700 billion to bail out the banks.

"'If we don’t do this today we won’t have an economy on Monday,' is the line famously attributed to Bernanke.

"The trio argued to lawmakers that without the bailout, the United States faced a catastrophic collapse of the financial system and a second Great Depression."

https://cepr.net/publications/the-bank-bailout-of-2008-was-unnecessary/

That profitable bailout was a great idea.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Liberal Democrats just ruin shit. Stuff stops running right, they even killed the art their fathers built. Wonderful art from TV, movies, creative and collectables, and the music will never be approached again. They had real causes, such as civil rights and Vietnam. The creativity of today's "liberal" runs only as far as they stuff they dream up, packed with twisted or meaningless words.

 

[Muhammed]

In my opinion since this is an opinion forum and facts rarely matter:

1) Limited Govt. States and local rule over Federal rule when possible, which should lead to fiscal responsibility.

2) Personal responsibility over Govt is here to help

3) Support of Free Markets. Reasonable taxes. Reasonable regulation

4) Traditional values aka no furries, trans crap,
DEI

5) Strong and advanced military

6) Support strong border security and contolled
Legal immigration

7) Support strong law enforcement none of this cashless bail and such. Back the Blue

8) Support 2A

9) End birthright citizenship for illegals

10) Death penalty for convicted violent criminals

11) Pride in being an American

12) Reduce perpetual social programs and create a system of reward for work not for gaming the system

13) There are only two genders


Doesn’t sound so bad

‍♂


Thoughts?

Politically a conservative is someone who supports policies that conserve the constitution of the USA rather than chip away at it through various schemes.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Many conservatives, real ones, are not racists. I have friends and people who have helped me in life who are conservatives. I may disagree with their politics because I believe there is a place for responsible government, but that does not change their fundamental goodness as people. Real conservatives are about smaller government and fiscal responsibility. I am all for not wasting tax dollars. But these fakes who have hijacked the term are about white power and cutting anything they perceive gives nonwhites equal opportunity. That is not conservatism; it is racism.

None of you MAGATS are conservatives. But in one aspect you have admitted an inconvenient truth. You do represent what America has always been; a racist, sexist, misogynistic am elitist cesspool of white male preference and privilege. That is what this country was really founded on. That is why only rich white men with property had rights according to the original intent of the founders.

“It is certain in theory, that the only moral foundation of government is the [agreement] of the people, but to what an extent shall we carry this principle? Shall we say, that every individual of the community, old and young, male and female, as well as rich and poor, must [agree] to every act of legislation?...

Is it not equally true, that men in general in every society, who [are poor and do not own property], are also [unfamiliar] with public affairs to form a right judgment, and too dependent upon other men to have a will of their own? …Few men, who have no property, have any judgment of their own. They talk and vote as they are directed by some man of property, who has attached their minds to his interest.

Depend upon it, sir, it is dangerous to open [such a] source of controversy and altercation, as would be opened by attempting to [change] the qualifications of voters. There will be no end of it. New claims will arise. Women will demand a vote. Lads from 12 to 21 will think their rights not enough attended to, and every man, who has not a [dime], will demand an equal voice with any other in all acts of state. It tends to confound and destroy all distinctions, and [surrender] all ranks, to one common level.”
-John Adams to James Sullivan, 26 May 1776.

Ever since this nation started those rich white men have dangled an apple in front of you dumb asses using race to keep you compliant.

You MAGATS love blaming Johnson for things, but I guess that's because to knew what the deal was when he said this:

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

And that is exactly what Trump has done to you morons. The belief in white supremacy is the greatest race hustle ever, and you MAGATS are nothing but marks getting played while the race hustlers like Trump use race to get rich. What do you get out of it? Paying more and more for everything. But at least you can say that you're white.

So the next time you fill up that tank don't take any money with you. When its time to pay, tell the cashier, that you're white and see how much that pays for your gas.

You were doing great until you said "None of you MAGATS are conservatives." You likely will never find someone who claims to be a MAGAT. Sure liberal democrats enjoy assuming ownership of descriptions, definitions, and projections, they assume all kinds of shit anyway, they just can't be taken seriously, politically and function nothing about them makes sense, it's just blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, yack yack yack yack Democracks ******* shit up.

 

[citygator]

5. A belief that there must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

 

[Crepitus]

Happy to compare IQs

Never even felt the need to test mine. Seems like something only someone insecure about it would so.

 

[Crepitus]

But enough about the left.

Who is this thread about again?

 

[jacksonlamb]

But it would be zero if they weren’t here at all.

The same if you weren't here.

 

[Divine Wind]

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Wow. A screamer. No conservatives I know are screamers, men who act like children or who blame others for their own life's mistakes. YMMV

I prefer conservatives who are adults who take responsibility for their own actions.

Do you agree with that philosophy, Defiler?

 

[jacksonlamb]

But enough about the left.

Crepitus Who is this thread about again?

jacksonlamb Toddster gets confused so easily.

 

[Crepitus]

Hey! Hey! Hey! It depends upon the conservative. MAGAts aren't called morons for nothing. They are clearly on the bottom of the totem pole as far as IQ goes, but conservatives like Goldwater, Reagan and GHW Bush were above average intelligence.

Go for it. What are you claiming is your IQ? When was the last time you were tested? Professionally tested, not some Facebook BS.

Goldwater may have run as a republican but he was really a libertarian.

I'll give you Reagan, but not so sure about GHW Bush.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Never even felt the need to test mine. Seems like something only someone insecure about it would so.

Or someone who is intellectually curious. You would not understand

 

[Divine Wind]

Goldwater may have run as a republican but he was really a libertarian.

I'll give you Reagan, but not so sure about GHW Bush.

Yes.

I liked GHW Bush. My only regret in voting was voting for Perot against GHW. The rest of the time I voted straight Republican until after Romney. After that, straight Libertarian.

Although it's been awhile since I've been back on USMB, it amazes me how many Alt-Right wackadoodles are screaming from their shitty rooms. They really, really don't like anyone who disagrees with them.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The same if you weren't here.

I am here legally and not a criminal

False conflation

You reek of desperation

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Wow. A screamer. No conservatives I know are screamers, men who act like children or who blame others for their own life's mistakes. YMMV

I prefer conservatives who are adults who take responsibility for their own actions.

Do you agree with that philosophy, Defiler?

How about adults who use words and know their meaning?

MAGAt = maggot

I had to explain it to you five times at least for you to grasp that. Old donkey,

 

[Leo123]

In my opinion since this is an opinion forum and facts rarely matter:

1) Limited Govt. States and local rule over Federal rule when possible, which should lead to fiscal responsibility.

2) Personal responsibility over Govt is here to help

3) Support of Free Markets. Reasonable taxes. Reasonable regulation

4) Traditional values aka no furries, trans crap,
DEI

5) Strong and advanced military

6) Support strong border security and contolled
Legal immigration

7) Support strong law enforcement none of this cashless bail and such. Back the Blue

8) Support 2A

9) End birthright citizenship for illegals

10) Death penalty for convicted violent criminals

11) Pride in being an American

12) Reduce perpetual social programs and create a system of reward for work not for gaming the system

13) There are only two genders


Doesn’t sound so bad

‍♂


Thoughts?

In other words, today Conservatives would be the traditional normal in the past. Progressives would be the Marxist/Communists in the past. Democrats would be the non traditional normal in the past.

 

[Divine Wind]

Who is this thread about again?

After a few days of observation, it's easy to tell which members are a bit forgetful. LOL

FWIW, I'd consider anyone who thinks their rights are equal to all others to be a conservative.

Sadly, all the MAGAts here believe in a racial and sexual heirarchy. An authoritarian state with them in charge.

I disagree with that philosophy and it really pisses them off. Some even made death threats. Not directly, course, since they are weak and cowardly, but the message was clear.

 

[pal]

Independents that won first.

Including conservatives, voting Independents and Republicans.

Easy math that most people know.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Or someone who is intellectually curious. You would not understand

You certainly don't.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Leo, take a logic course.

That did not make sense above.