What kind of a country is modern Ukraine?

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

Someday, if not through their heads, then through the slaps of their masters, the peoples of the former USSR will reach a simple and clear idea that they were divided only in order, under the cries of their own Way, Freedom and Independence, to steal from Them and trade Their property..
.That is when the USSR will be back.

 

[AntonToo]

Someday, if not through their heads, then through the slaps of their masters, the peoples of the former USSR will reach a simple and clear idea that they were divided only in order, under the cries of their own Way, Freedom and Independence, to steal from Them and trade Their property..
.That is when the USSR will be back.

Dream on, the world has moved on from your fucked in the head repressive commie fantasies.

You are moving on to 6 feet under

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

Don't pay attention to it, it's just hippie love bass

 

[Blaster]

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[Tom Paine 1949]

Don't pay attention to it, it's just hippie love bass

Wouldn’t dream of paying attention to “evidence” like this. Are you so gullible? Or think we are? Provided by an internet Russian blogger. Who painted the Nazi symbol on top? Why on earth would Ukrainians who need Western aid do this? There are plenty of Ukrainian flag symbols available if needed. This is your sick mind at work. It is Russian propaganda of the very dumbest sort. You are nothing but a Putin / Stalinist asshole.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

What kind of country is modern Ukraine?

I’ll tell everybody what kind of country Ukraine is now. It is a desperate, dirt-poor devastated European country, overwhelmingly hostile to its bloody Russian invaders, trying to resist this murderous much larger bullying neighbor.

It has asked for European and Western help and will die without it. A less populous country fighting for its very life against the invading oil-rich Russian Empire and its fascist-like state, it is now unable to function as a real democracy. It has been under Russian domination so long it certainly inherited many aspects of Russia’s backwardness and its corrupt oligarchical economy.

But this is the aspiration of its citizens: To be a cultured democracy, a part of the European social and economic community, to live in peace within recognized sovereign borders, with basic human rights, free once and for all from violent backward Russian imperial domination!

 

[Ringo]

What kind of country is modern Ukraine?

I’ll tell everybody what kind of country Ukraine is now. It is a desperate, dirt-poor devastated European country, overwhelmingly hostile to its bloody Russian invaders, trying to resist this murderous much larger bullying neighbor.

It has asked for European and Western help and will die without it. A less populous country fighting for its very life against the invading oil-rich Russian Empire and its fascist-like state, it is now unable to function as a real democracy. It has been under Russian domination so long it certainly inherited many aspects of Russia’s backwardness and its corrupt oligarchical economy.

But this is the aspiration of its citizens: To be a cultured democracy, a part of the European social and economic community, to live in peace within recognized sovereign borders, with basic human rights, free once and for all from violent backward Russian imperial domination!

I was once struck by this pompous arrogance of many Americans, their sense of being a "superior race," a "chosen nation." The arrogance that they know everything about everything in the world, and what they imagine, or rather, what they have been poured into their heads, is the truth in the last instance. And that's why you, a child prodigy, will tell me, a person who grew up in Ukraine, whose father and grandfather grew up in Ukraine, about what is happening in Ukraine.... You are despicable, Hollywood asshole.

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[Tom Paine 1949]

I said nothing about a “superior race” or “a chosen nation.” I never think that way. The West today only has superior political and social organization — though even in the U.S. we have our own aspiring Putins. Americans have been particularly lucky, fortunate, have made terrible mistakes, but most “Westerners” are not slaves to their own states. Not yet anyway.

All you have, Ringo, is a long unbroken history of state despotism, a collapsing old-style empire that imprisoned nations have been trying (and succeeding) in escaping from for generations. You have a stupendous grudge against those who escape your clutches.

Oh, and you personally have nostalgia for those “good old days” … when Stalin ruled and murdered all oppositionists and millions of innocents too. Stick with your vodka, or remember the great things about Russian culture — things that don’t amount only to a brutal craving for oppressive empire.

Finally, lots of people grew up in Ukraine — two of my grandparents included. I know many Russian speakers, many born in Ukraine, with many views of the tragedy going on there now. Some are Russian chauvinists, but you … are among the most craven.

 

[Ringo]

Oh, and you personally have nostalgia for those “good old days” … when Stalin ruled and murdered all oppositionists and millions of innocents too

Fascism is the highest form of capitalism. When we are told: "Stalin is worse than Hitler"... we just don't get the full sentence: "Your" Stalin is worse for us, than "Our" Hitler.

 

[Ringo]

-For "likes" on the Internet, they put people in jail for 5 years and take away their apartments.
-Blocking undesirable TV channels.
-Opposition journalists are killed.
-Men are banned from traveling.
-Presidential and parliamentary elections are canceled.
-They catch men in the streets and drag them to the military recruitment center.

Guess a democratic country by its description.

 

[Silver Cat]

Wouldn’t dream of paying attention to “evidence” like this. Are you so gullible? Or think we are? Provided by an internet Russian blogger. Who painted the Nazi symbol on top? Why on earth would Ukrainians who need Western aid do this? There are plenty of Ukrainian flag symbols available if needed. This is your sick mind at work. It is Russian propaganda of the very dumbest sort. You are nothing but a Putin / Stalinist asshole.

The Ukrainians (as well as the Baltics) paint Nazi symbols exactly because the need help of their European Nazi masters. The very core of Ukrainian ideology is Nazi-collaboration.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

The Ukrainians (as well as the Baltics) paint Nazi symbols exactly because the need help of their European Nazi masters. The very core of Ukrainian ideology is Nazi-collaboration.

With this comment you have earned your status as a certified retard, and join others of your mentality on my ignore list.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Litwin]

-For "likes" on the Internet, they put people in jail for 5 years and take away their apartments.
-Blocking undesirable TV channels.
-Opposition journalists are killed.
-Men are banned from traveling.
-Presidential and parliamentary elections are canceled.
-They catch men in the streets and drag them to the military recruitment center.

Guess a democratic country by its description.

 

[Ringo]

"Almost every day our FSB posts another video clip of another arrested traitors. And almost always the question of the phenomenon of betrayal arises. Why do our scum go to cooperate with the Ukrainian security services? Is a couple thousand rubles or euros the main incentive for treason against the Motherland? What is this? Complete narrow-mindedness or infantilism on the verge of underdevelopment? But in the real world, it doesn't look like that at all! In fact, the special services of Ukraine and not only (other Western special services work in the same way) have developed a very clear algorithm of inducement to betrayal. Discussing with the next object of recruitment the prospects of "cooperation" - it does not matter: whether they recruit a snotty student to set fire to an electric box on the railroad or some engineer of a military design bureau - there is quite convincing motivating "set" for initiation of the next traitor.
The first and main argument:

- Don't be afraid! There is no death penalty for betrayal in Russia! Nothing threatens your life!

- Do not be afraid of arrest and investigation! Russian security services fear the reputation of Stalin's NKVD like the devil. Therefore, no torture, no interrogation. Therefore, just endure the "control time" so that it becomes clear to us that you have "fallen asleep" and your duty is done.

• Spill everything you know at the investigation! The algorithm of cooperation with almost any agent is such that its value can be defined as "disposable". None of them know anything more than their microscopic "plot" and the alias of their handler. There are completely different algorithms for cooperating with those of special value and such are almost immediately picked up by senior handlers from the CIA, MI-5 and other serious "offices".
• Do not be afraid of big terms at the trial! At best, you will spend a couple of years in prison, because after the end of the war you will all be on the lists for the exchange of prisoners of war. That is why more than 50 thousand "Russian agents or pro-Russian activists" have already been arrested and thrown into prison in Ukraine - the "exchange fund", so to speak. You will be exchanged for them! After that you will receive a Ukrainian passport, giving you the right to move freely around the world, and monetary compensation for your time in prison. If Russia loses the war, you will return from prison as heroes and become the new elite of "free Russia".

In fact, that's the whole algorithm! But it is quite "motivating" for those who have nothing but dirt and meanness in their souls. Why not sell out "Russia"?

And here again it is legitimate to raise the question of abolishing the suspension of execution of death sentences. Because the above algorithm, together with the moratorium on the death penalty, is a perfect breeding ground for traitors. And the return of capital punishment almost completely puts an end to this whole system of recruitment. Death is the perfect point in a traitor's biography! And for the exchange of our arrested and convicted pro-Russian activists in Ukraine, a couple of tens of thousands of Ukrainian prisoners of war, "accumulated" by us during these two years, will be enough for us.
A bullet for each traitor!" ©

 

[Ringo]