What James Madison (1793 Founder of Republican Party and author of Constitution) said about how lib

[Syriusly]

Madison said faction is to freedom what air is to fire.

To prevent faction and civil war he gave us the greatest gift in human history, the Constitution. Immediately thereafter liberals (called Federalists a the time) appeared to represent a faction that wanted the Constitution to mean anything they wanted it to mean and thus the blueprint Madison gave us was undermined if not destroyed. Today, as a result, we are perhaps more divided than ever before thanks to those who lack the wisdom to understand Madison's Constitution. What was Madison's greatest regret: he wasn't even more clear in his Constitution about the need to make the liberal faction instantly illegal whenever it appeared.

Madison, and the Founding Fathers, would be revolted by liberals.

LOL I find that so funny on so many levels.

“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”
—John Adams

This from Thomas Jefferson in an April 11, 1823, letter to John Adams: The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. ... But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding.

 

[Syriusly]

A liberal is a liberal

Your ignorance on this matter is astounding. Ergo, I must consider that it is intentional.

Conservatives of the day supported the King

Just like today, they followed the money

Here, in not too many words for you, a simple primer.

Difference Between Modern Liberalism and Classical Liberalism

LOL
Fake news

The issues of liberalism may change as society faces new challenges

But a Liberal is a liberal is a liberal
And Conservatives remain assholes no matter what era

Sometimes it's fun watching retards without their helmets. Thank you for the entertainment.

LOL- this in a thread by a contard telling us that James Madison founded the Republican Party.

 

[rightwinger]

Conservatives of the day supported the King

Just like today, they followed the money

Here, in not too many words for you, a simple primer.

Difference Between Modern Liberalism and Classical Liberalism

LOL
Fake news

The issues of liberalism may change as society faces new challenges

But a Liberal is a liberal is a liberal
And Conservatives remain assholes no matter what era

Sometimes it's fun watching retards without their helmets. Thank you for the entertainment.

I accept your concession

Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

Requisitioning terminology to its opposite does not change an original definition. The difference is widely accepted in scholarship. Only the stupid reject the fact.

The Tories were the Democrats of their time. Government over liberty.

Hail to the King, baby.

Sorry pal

Torres were as conservative as they come.

 

[rightwinger]

I just love reading revisionist conservative history

It's so.... creative. In a desperate, flailing, gasping-for-breath kind of way.

Wait....it only gets better

They now claim MLK was a Republican and JFK was conservative

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Here, in not too many words for you, a simple primer.

Difference Between Modern Liberalism and Classical Liberalism

LOL
Fake news

The issues of liberalism may change as society faces new challenges

But a Liberal is a liberal is a liberal
And Conservatives remain assholes no matter what era

Sometimes it's fun watching retards without their helmets. Thank you for the entertainment.

I accept your concession

Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

Requisitioning terminology to its opposite does not change an original definition. The difference is widely accepted in scholarship. Only the stupid reject the fact.

The Tories were the Democrats of their time. Government over liberty.

Hail to the King, baby.

words can have multiple meanings and those meanings can change over time. To facilitate communication we use today’s most common meaning rather than burden the reader with knowing different definitions from different centuries Today conservatives favor limited government or freedom from government and liberals the opposite. Jefferson and Madison then were conservatives who founded Republican Party in 1793 and won presidency in 1800. It is extremely easy to look up primary sources and see what name Jefferson and Madison called their party. This would be obvious to all but two-year-olds and liberals.

The term is associated with certain political ideals and philosophies. To assign it to the modern definition and then claim Jefferson and Madison fall under that definition is dishonest in the extreme. The Founders most assuredly were not "social justice warriors".

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Here, in not too many words for you, a simple primer.

Difference Between Modern Liberalism and Classical Liberalism

LOL
Fake news

The issues of liberalism may change as society faces new challenges

But a Liberal is a liberal is a liberal
And Conservatives remain assholes no matter what era

Sometimes it's fun watching retards without their helmets. Thank you for the entertainment.

I accept your concession

Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

Requisitioning terminology to its opposite does not change an original definition. The difference is widely accepted in scholarship. Only the stupid reject the fact.

The Tories were the Democrats of their time. Government over liberty.

Hail to the King, baby.

Sorry pal

Torres were as conservative as they come.

You're flipping definitions, Comrade. An old game.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Here, in not too many words for you, a simple primer.

Difference Between Modern Liberalism and Classical Liberalism

LOL
Fake news

The issues of liberalism may change as society faces new challenges

But a Liberal is a liberal is a liberal
And Conservatives remain assholes no matter what era

Sometimes it's fun watching retards without their helmets. Thank you for the entertainment.

I accept your concession

Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

Requisitioning terminology to its opposite does not change an original definition. The difference is widely accepted in scholarship. Only the stupid reject the fact.

The Tories were the Democrats of their time. Government over liberty.

Hail to the King, baby.

Sorry pal

Torres were as conservative as they come.

Miguel Torres?

Tories were monarchists.

 

[Faun]

Madison said faction is to freedom what air is to fire.

To prevent faction and civil war he gave us the greatest gift in human history, the Constitution. Immediately thereafter liberals (called Federalists a the time) appeared to represent a faction that wanted the Constitution to mean anything they wanted it to mean and thus the blueprint Madison gave us was undermined if not destroyed. Today, as a result, we are perhaps more divided than ever before thanks to those who lack the wisdom to understand Madison's Constitution. What was Madison's greatest regret: he wasn't even more clear in his Constitution about the need to make the liberal faction instantly illegal whenever it appeared.

Madison is not the founder of the Republican Party.

Republican Party founded - Mar 20, 1854 - HISTORY.com

 

[rightwinger]

LOL
Fake news

The issues of liberalism may change as society faces new challenges

But a Liberal is a liberal is a liberal
And Conservatives remain assholes no matter what era

Sometimes it's fun watching retards without their helmets. Thank you for the entertainment.

I accept your concession

Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

Requisitioning terminology to its opposite does not change an original definition. The difference is widely accepted in scholarship. Only the stupid reject the fact.

The Tories were the Democrats of their time. Government over liberty.

Hail to the King, baby.

words can have multiple meanings and those meanings can change over time. To facilitate communication we use today’s most common meaning rather than burden the reader with knowing different definitions from different centuries Today conservatives favor limited government or freedom from government and liberals the opposite. Jefferson and Madison then were conservatives who founded Republican Party in 1793 and won presidency in 1800. It is extremely easy to look up primary sources and see what name Jefferson and Madison called their party. This would be obvious to all but two-year-olds and liberals.

The term is associated with certain political ideals and philosophies. To assign it to the modern definition and then claim Jefferson and Madison fall under that definition is dishonest in the extreme. The Founders most assuredly were not "social justice warriors".

Social Justice?

All men are created equal was all about social justice

 

[rightwinger]

LOL
Fake news

The issues of liberalism may change as society faces new challenges

But a Liberal is a liberal is a liberal
And Conservatives remain assholes no matter what era

Sometimes it's fun watching retards without their helmets. Thank you for the entertainment.

I accept your concession

Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

Requisitioning terminology to its opposite does not change an original definition. The difference is widely accepted in scholarship. Only the stupid reject the fact.

The Tories were the Democrats of their time. Government over liberty.

Hail to the King, baby.

Sorry pal

Torres were as conservative as they come.

Miguel Torres?

Tories were monarchists.

Yes Torries supported the King
Anything but a Liberal who opposed the monarchy

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Sometimes it's fun watching retards without their helmets. Thank you for the entertainment.

I accept your concession

Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

Requisitioning terminology to its opposite does not change an original definition. The difference is widely accepted in scholarship. Only the stupid reject the fact.

The Tories were the Democrats of their time. Government over liberty.

Hail to the King, baby.

words can have multiple meanings and those meanings can change over time. To facilitate communication we use today’s most common meaning rather than burden the reader with knowing different definitions from different centuries Today conservatives favor limited government or freedom from government and liberals the opposite. Jefferson and Madison then were conservatives who founded Republican Party in 1793 and won presidency in 1800. It is extremely easy to look up primary sources and see what name Jefferson and Madison called their party. This would be obvious to all but two-year-olds and liberals.

The term is associated with certain political ideals and philosophies. To assign it to the modern definition and then claim Jefferson and Madison fall under that definition is dishonest in the extreme. The Founders most assuredly were not "social justice warriors".

Social Justice?

All men are created equal was all about social justice

Social justice is "justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society."

"Individuality gives way to the struggle for social justice" is not at all what the Founders had in mind.

 

[rightwinger]

I accept your concession

Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

Requisitioning terminology to its opposite does not change an original definition. The difference is widely accepted in scholarship. Only the stupid reject the fact.

The Tories were the Democrats of their time. Government over liberty.

Hail to the King, baby.

words can have multiple meanings and those meanings can change over time. To facilitate communication we use today’s most common meaning rather than burden the reader with knowing different definitions from different centuries Today conservatives favor limited government or freedom from government and liberals the opposite. Jefferson and Madison then were conservatives who founded Republican Party in 1793 and won presidency in 1800. It is extremely easy to look up primary sources and see what name Jefferson and Madison called their party. This would be obvious to all but two-year-olds and liberals.

The term is associated with certain political ideals and philosophies. To assign it to the modern definition and then claim Jefferson and Madison fall under that definition is dishonest in the extreme. The Founders most assuredly were not "social justice warriors".

Social Justice?

All men are created equal was all about social justice

Social justice is "justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society."

"Individuality gives way to the struggle for social justice" is not at all what the Founders had in mind.

No shit Sherlock

Wealth, opportunities and privileges were concentrated in the royal class
The class that our liberal founders fought against

Conservative Torries supported the crown.....as alway...followed the money

 

[whitehall]

First they take over the education system and erase references to the Founding Fathers and then the crazy anti-American left uses the media as a propaganda arm of anarchists and revolutionaries. Respect for the Flag and patriotism is ridiculed and the Constitution is considered to be an irrelevant antiquated 18th century document. Next thing you know they repeal the Bill of Rights starting with the 2nd Amendment. Didn't we learn anything from 20th century Germany?

 

[rightwinger]

First they take over the education system and erase references to the Founding Fathers and then the crazy anti-American left uses the media as a propaganda arm of anarchists and revolutionaries. Respect for the Flag and patriotism is ridiculed and the Constitution is considered to be an irrelevant antiquated 18th century document. Next thing you know they repeal the Bill of Rights starting with the 2nd Amendment. Didn't we learn anything from 20th century Germany?

Anarchy....anarchy I say

 

[Pogo]

Madison said faction is to freedom what air is to fire.d.

Tell us more about how Madison founded the Republican Party.

This is fascinating.

It goes right along with Lumpy 1 's "the Democrats invented slavery".

and "FDR caused the Depression".

and "O'bama caused the other Depression"

The concept of "linear time" has yet to reach the primitives. They see a history book, they get out their crayons.

 

[Syriusly]

First they take over the education system and erase references to the Founding Fathers and then the crazy anti-American left uses the media as a propaganda arm of anarchists and revolutionaries. Respect for the Flag and patriotism is ridiculed and the Constitution is considered to be an irrelevant antiquated 18th century document. Next thing you know they repeal the Bill of Rights starting with the 2nd Amendment. Didn't we learn anything from 20th century Germany?

Certainly you have learned the use of lies and propaganda from Nazi Germany.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I just love reading revisionist conservative history

It's so.... creative. In a desperate, flailing, gasping-for-breath kind of way.

Wait....it only gets better

They now claim MLK was a Republican and JFK was conservative

JFK was a Conservative, more of a Conservative than 98% of he Republican Party -- and he got killed for it

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Madison said faction is to freedom what air is to fire.

To prevent faction and civil war he gave us the greatest gift in human history, the Constitution. Immediately thereafter liberals (called Federalists a the time) appeared to represent a faction that wanted the Constitution to mean anything they wanted it to mean and thus the blueprint Madison gave us was undermined if not destroyed. Today, as a result, we are perhaps more divided than ever before thanks to those who lack the wisdom to understand Madison's Constitution. What was Madison's greatest regret: he wasn't even more clear in his Constitution about the need to make the liberal faction instantly illegal whenever it appeared.

Madison is not the founder of the Republican Party.

Republican Party founded - Mar 20, 1854 - HISTORY.com

That would be huge news to Jefferson and Madison who founded the Republican Party in 1793 to stand for very very limited govt.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

LOL- this in a thread by a contard telling us that James Madison founded the Republican Party.

yes Jefferson and Madison founded it in 1793. What party did you think they formed to oppose the big govt liberals or Federalists???

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

, the Republican Party was founded in Ripon Wisconsin in 1854 --- decades after both Jefferson and Madison --- who were, all together now, Liberals --- were pushing up daisies.

Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican party in 1793 to oppose the big govt liberals or federalists led by Hamilton and Adams. What Party do you think Jefferson and Madison formed to oppose the big govt liberals or federalists?? Welcome to your first lesson in American History.