What Is Wrong With Thomas Massie?

[Foxfyre]

I think you really need to pay closer attention to what's going on in congress.
Or do you think that 30 Republicans always voting with Democrats isn't a sign of corruption?

I don't know.

In the 1990's, Tim Penny's 30+ reformer Democrats almost always voted with Newt Gingrich and the reformer Republicans and that is how a very reluctant Bill Clinton was finally persuaded to vote for the tax and welfare reform that saved his presidency.

Was Gingrich and the GOP corrupt for saving his presidency or were they doing what they believed was best for the people? Was Tim Penny and those 30+ Democrats corrupt to break with the majority of their party to vote for what they believed to be right?

So I have to know what the vote was about and the rationale behind it to know whether a vote is corrupt.

Those who vote for no other reason than to hurt President Trump and the Administration are indeed corrupt. Those who vote to increase their personal wealth and power are indeed corrupt.

Those who oppose just because they oppose the legislation could very well be in the wrong, but they are not necessarily corrupt when they do it.

 

[task0778]

There useta be moderates who would crossover and vote with the other party if they thought it was warranted, particularly if their constituency was helped. You don't see that much anymore, if you step outta line nowadays it's your ass politically.

 

[mudwhistle]

There useta be moderates who would crossover and vote with the other party if they thought it was warranted, particularly if their constituency was helped. You don't see that much anymore, if you step outta line nowadays it's your ass politically.

These guys like to holdout their votes for a bill because they want some gravy for their state.
That's how these bills end up being so complicated.

This is one of the things DOGE discovered was going on.

 

[August West]

Massie would be all for cutting the war machine down.
We are the suckers of the world. Thats for damn sure.
They found WMDs it just wasnt what we were told we would find.

U.S. troops found nearly 5,000 abandoned chemical weapons in Iraq from 2004 to 2011: report

American troops found nearly 5,000 abandoned chemical weapons in Iraq from 2004 to 2011, but their discoveries were kept secret by the U.S. government, the New York Times reports.

www.yahoo.com

Iraq didn`t have enough of a military to threaten their neighbors. What was found was yellow cake in a degraded state and that we already knew about.

 

[Oddball]

 

[MisterBeale]

when you are offered 3/4 of a cake you take it

Not if you have severe health complications and ANY amount of cake will kill you.


The nation is running out of time, and soon, will collapse if something is not done about the debt.

 

[1srelluc]

Not if you have severe health complications and ANY amount of cake will kill you.


The nation is running out of time, and soon, will collapse if something is not done about the debt.

Sounds good and all but short of imprisoning all of congress what are you gonna do about it?

Virginia has two dem senators that would happily spend us into oblivion.....Both were penny pinching governors of Virginia at one time so how do you square that?

The reason they changed is because they can spend with the full support of the cronies with no repercussions.

No, it will take a collapse, it's just as simple as that.

 

[progressive hunter]

He's not really wrong but then again when you are offered 3/4 of a cake you take it.....That was his mistake.

I don't think he really want a tax-paying family to have to cough-up $3500 more a year....Did he?

The world wonders.

how many times can you eat 3/4 of a cake before youre to fat to function and provide for yourself??

 

[1srelluc]

how many times can you eat 3/4 of a cake before youre to fat to function and provide for yourself??

OK then, 3/4 of a tasty bass.....The dems can have the head and tail.

Boy, you people sure get hung up on word games....You sound like dems.

 

[progressive hunter]

OK then, 3/4 of a tasty bass.....The dems can have the head and tail.

Boy, you people sure get hung up on word games....You sound like dems.

bass will feed you not drain you like cake or in this case debt,,

you can compromise only so long before nothings left of what youre trying to protect

youre the one playing word games,,
I just showed you the flaws in your logic,,

 

[1srelluc]

bass will feed you not drain you like cake or in this case debt,,

you can compromise only so long before nothings left of what youre trying to protect

youre the one playing word games,,
I just showed you the flaws in your logic,,

OK, so you approve of taxpaying families having to cough-up another 3.5K+ a year if the BBB (and the Trump tax-cut extension within) is killed by RINOs and the my way or the highway types like Rand Paul?

Sadly there are still enough of them left to do just that and not bat a eye doing it.

LOL....If you think that anything will really change in DC without a total collapse then you have another think coming to ya.....A wise man makes his deals in the real world.

 

[progressive hunter]

OK, so you approve of taxpaying families having to cough-up another 3.5K+ a year if the BBB (and the Trump tax-cut extension within) is killed by RINOs and the my way or the highway types like Rand Paul?

Sadly there are still enough of them left to do just that and not bat a eye doing it.

LOL....If you think that anything will really change in DC without a total collapse then you have another think coming to ya.....A wise man makes his deals in the real world.

all youre doing is showing how loaded the bill is and more the reason a real conservative should vote against it,,

present a better bill,,

 

[1srelluc]

all youre doing is showing how loaded the bill is and more the reason a real conservative should vote against it,,

present a better bill,,

Loaded? Continued tax relief for American taxpaying families.....Are you fuckin' serious?

It's a shame the right-leaning with some common sense are saddled with your ilk, that goes for you too Oddball.

 

[progressive hunter]

Loaded? Continued tax relief for American taxpaying families.....Are you fuckin' serious?

It's a shame the right-leaning with some common sense are saddled with your ilk, that goes for you too Oddball.

I said long ago republicans are going to compromise us right into a communist country,,

I heard massies reasons and they are sound and in no way align him with democrats,,

 

[1srelluc]

I said long ago republicans are going to compromise us right into a communist country,,

I heard massies reasons and they are sound and in no way align him with democrats,,

Sure they are sound (I said he's not wrong) but they are not practical.

The Senate is proof of that. The RINOs there would love to see Trump fail as much as the dems.

 

[progressive hunter]

Sure they are sound (I said he's not wrong) but they are not practical.

The Senate is proof of that. The RINOs there would love to see Trump fail as much as the dems.

that brings us back to how many times you can compromise before what youre protecting no longer exists,,

this brought him to his limit,,
and from what I understand the fix was not a hard thing to do,,
maybe the establishment should have compromised

 

[1srelluc]

that brings us back to how many times you can compromise before what youre protecting no longer exists,,

this brought him to his limit,,
and from what I understand the fix was not a hard thing to do,,
maybe the establishment should have compromised

I'm sure as hell am not bothered about coughing up another 3.5+K a year to the feds to suit you because you can't get everything you want.

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm sure as hell am not bothered about coughing up another 3.5+K a year to the feds to suit you because you can't get everything you want.

then take your own advice and compromise and change the bill,,

dont attack one of the best reps we have had because your feelings are hurt,,

 

[Oddball]

The bond market gets a vote too, and it's on Massie's side...

Big, Beautiful Bill Meets Big, Beautiful Bond Market

The bond market can’t be fooled—and by the looks of it, isn’t.

quoththeraven.substack.com

 

[1srelluc]

then take your own advice and compromise and change the bill,,

dont attack one of the best reps we have had because your feelings are hurt,,

Jeez, i said he wasn't wrong.....Just wrong-headed if he thinks he can get everything he wants....The same goes for you.