What Is Wrong With Thomas Massie?

[Foxfyre]

I think you really need to pay closer attention to what's going on in congress.
Or do you think that 30 Republicans always voting with Democrats isn't a sign of corruption?

I don't know.

In the 1990's, Tim Penny's 30+ reformer Democrats almost always voted with Newt Gingrich and the reformer Republicans and that is how a very reluctant Bill Clinton was finally persuaded to vote for the tax and welfare reform that saved his presidency.

Was Gingrich and the GOP corrupt for saving his presidency or were they doing what they believed was best for the people? Was Tim Penny and those 30+ Democrats corrupt to break with the majority of their party to vote for what they believed to be right?

So I have to know what the vote was about and the rationale behind it to know whether a vote is corrupt.

Those who vote for no other reason than to hurt President Trump and the Administration are indeed corrupt. Those who vote to increase their personal wealth and power are indeed corrupt.

Those who oppose just because they oppose the legislation could very well be in the wrong, but they are not necessarily corrupt when they do it.

 

[task0778]

There useta be moderates who would crossover and vote with the other party if they thought it was warranted, particularly if their constituency was helped. You don't see that much anymore, if you step outta line nowadays it's your ass politically.

 

[mudwhistle]

There useta be moderates who would crossover and vote with the other party if they thought it was warranted, particularly if their constituency was helped. You don't see that much anymore, if you step outta line nowadays it's your ass politically.

These guys like to holdout their votes for a bill because they want some gravy for their state.
That's how these bills end up being so complicated.

This is one of the things DOGE discovered was going on.