What Is The Popular Vote?

[toobfreak]

Every state election is essentially based on the popular vote; biggest number wins, but only five presidential candidates have ever won the popular vote but not won the presidency.
That would be:

1. Hillary Clinton
2. Andrew Jackson
3. Samuel Tilden
4. Grover Cleveland
5. Al Gore

The Electoral College was devised at the Constitutional Convention in 1787. It was a compromise between those who wanted direct popular elections for president and those who preferred to have Congress decide. The Electoral College is a weighted system where smaller states are weighted heavier per voter (as determined by the census) than larger states--- the effect in this is to prevent a tyranny of any one or few large states having control of every election effectively robbing smaller states of having a voice. This way, everyone in every state has a voice in the outcome, since smaller states would have a smaller voice and larger states (by population) naturally carry a bigger voice, this weighting system helps to offset that to prevent big states from having TOO much of a voice over small states.

It's not a perfect system, but it works to keep just a few big states or cities from wholly monopolizing an election. As such, the person winning the popular vote USUALLY wins the Electoral College but not necessarily.

The Electoral College has 538 members, with the number allocated to each state based on how many representatives it has in the House plus its two senators. So how important then is the popular vote? In any other year to hear democrats, it means everything. To win BOTH the popular vote AND the EC is a MANDATE. President-elect Trump has nabbed the highest raw count of the popular vote of any Republican presidential hopeful ever, according to projections of the 2024 election. As of Sunday morning, Trump clinched 74,650,000 popular votes, eclipsing his prior record of 74,224,000 votes in the 2020 election.

There is still a large swath of still-uncounted votes to be tabulated, including in California which only has an estimated 66% of the vote tabulated; other states including Alaska, Arizona, Maryland, Oregon and Utah still have outstanding votes. There are roughly 5 million votes estimated to be left outstanding.

Republicans haven’t won the popular vote in a presidential contest since 2004 — when President George W. Bush got 62 million votes, so, Donald Trump is feeling mighty good. Trump had swept all seven battleground states and won the Electoral College by 312 to 226. That’s the largest victory since 2012.

The 47th commander-in-chief Trump is only the second president in US history to win a second nonconsecutive term, after Glover Cleveland.

The president-elect is set to meet with Biden at the White House this coming Wednesday.

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[Rogue AI]

The 'popular' vote is a media construct to denigrate the Constitution and the Electoral College. The presidential election is 50+ elections, not just one. It's just another way for liberals to lie and whine.

 

[toobfreak]

The 'popular' vote is a media construct to denigrate the Constitution and the Electoral College. The presidential election is 50+ elections, not just one. It's just another way for liberals to lie and whine.

True, a presidential election is actually 50 state popular votes multiplied into the weighting that each state carries in the Electoral College which determines the actual outcome as it is really the College which elects the president, so, there really is no "national" popular vote other than just for statistical curiosity purposes by number crunchers. It carries no legal meaning. Still, I'm sure it does stick heavily in the craw of the Left that Trump won it and that they can't even wave that over Trump's head as some small moral victory for the Harris camp.

In fact, there was not even a SINGLE county in the entire county where Harris did better than Biden, who she was installed to replace.

Kamala was simply TROUNCED in EVERY way.

I heard the other night that she and the Bidens met up somewhere the other day for an official function and as usual, Kamala did not look at all like she wanted to be there, but then, she never seems to want to be anywhere. There was a reported HEAVY WALL OF ICE between herself and the Bidens.

 

[Independent thinker]

Every state election is essentially based on the popular vote; biggest number wins, but only five presidential candidates have ever won the popular vote but not won the presidency.
That would be:

1. Hillary Clinton
2. Andrew Jackson
3. Samuel Tilden
4. Grover Cleveland
5. Al Gore

The Electoral College was devised at the Constitutional Convention in 1787. It was a compromise between those who wanted direct popular elections for president and those who preferred to have Congress decide. The Electoral College is a weighted system where smaller states are weighted heavier per voter (as determined by the census) than larger states--- the effect in this is to prevent a tyranny of any one or few large states having control of every election effectively robbing smaller states of having a voice. This way, everyone in every state has a voice in the outcome, since smaller states would have a smaller voice and larger states (by population) naturally carry a bigger voice, this weighting system helps to offset that to prevent big states from having TOO much of a voice over small states.

It's not a perfect system, but it works to keep just a few big states or cities from wholly monopolizing an election. As such, the person winning the popular vote USUALLY wins the Electoral College but not necessarily.

The Electoral College has 538 members, with the number allocated to each state based on how many representatives it has in the House plus its two senators. So how important then is the popular vote? In any other year to hear democrats, it means everything. To win BOTH the popular vote AND the EC is a MANDATE. President-elect Trump has nabbed the highest raw count of the popular vote of any Republican presidential hopeful ever, according to projections of the 2024 election. As of Sunday morning, Trump clinched 74,650,000 popular votes, eclipsing his prior record of 74,224,000 votes in the 2020 election.

There is still a large swath of still-uncounted votes to be tabulated, including in California which only has an estimated 66% of the vote tabulated; other states including Alaska, Arizona, Maryland, Oregon and Utah still have outstanding votes. There are roughly 5 million votes estimated to be left outstanding.

Republicans haven’t won the popular vote in a presidential contest since 2004 — when President George W. Bush got 62 million votes, so, Donald Trump is feeling mighty good. Trump had swept all seven battleground states and won the Electoral College by 312 to 226. That’s the largest victory since 2012.

The 47th commander-in-chief Trump is only the second president in US history to win a second nonconsecutive term, after Glover Cleveland.

The president-elect is set to meet with Biden at the White House this coming Wednesday.

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Grover Cleveland? Isn't he the other one who served two separate terms?

 

[M14 Shooter]

The "popular vote" is the aggregate of 51 individual elections.
It carries no legal meaning and does not have a role in determining the winner of the election.
It is perfectly possible for someone to win the Presidency with a popular vote count of 0.

 

[martybegan]

Every state election is essentially based on the popular vote; biggest number wins, but only five presidential candidates have ever won the popular vote but not won the presidency.
That would be:

1. Hillary Clinton
2. Andrew Jackson
3. Samuel Tilden
4. Grover Cleveland
5. Al Gore

The Electoral College was devised at the Constitutional Convention in 1787. It was a compromise between those who wanted direct popular elections for president and those who preferred to have Congress decide. The Electoral College is a weighted system where smaller states are weighted heavier per voter (as determined by the census) than larger states--- the effect in this is to prevent a tyranny of any one or few large states having control of every election effectively robbing smaller states of having a voice. This way, everyone in every state has a voice in the outcome, since smaller states would have a smaller voice and larger states (by population) naturally carry a bigger voice, this weighting system helps to offset that to prevent big states from having TOO much of a voice over small states.

It's not a perfect system, but it works to keep just a few big states or cities from wholly monopolizing an election. As such, the person winning the popular vote USUALLY wins the Electoral College but not necessarily.

The Electoral College has 538 members, with the number allocated to each state based on how many representatives it has in the House plus its two senators. So how important then is the popular vote? In any other year to hear democrats, it means everything. To win BOTH the popular vote AND the EC is a MANDATE. President-elect Trump has nabbed the highest raw count of the popular vote of any Republican presidential hopeful ever, according to projections of the 2024 election. As of Sunday morning, Trump clinched 74,650,000 popular votes, eclipsing his prior record of 74,224,000 votes in the 2020 election.

There is still a large swath of still-uncounted votes to be tabulated, including in California which only has an estimated 66% of the vote tabulated; other states including Alaska, Arizona, Maryland, Oregon and Utah still have outstanding votes. There are roughly 5 million votes estimated to be left outstanding.

Republicans haven’t won the popular vote in a presidential contest since 2004 — when President George W. Bush got 62 million votes, so, Donald Trump is feeling mighty good. Trump had swept all seven battleground states and won the Electoral College by 312 to 226. That’s the largest victory since 2012.

The 47th commander-in-chief Trump is only the second president in US history to win a second nonconsecutive term, after Glover Cleveland.

The president-elect is set to meet with Biden at the White House this coming Wednesday.

MSN

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The EC was based on a system where your STATE government impacted you far more than the FEDERAL government.

we need to go back to that system, that started to die after the Civil War, was struck again during WWI, and then killed off by FDR during the new Deal and WWII.

Then Johnson kicked its corpse with the "Great Society" and Obama played with the bones with Obamacare.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The one Orange Man won by like 4.5 million votes