What is the "Global Mean Temperature?"

[EMH]

I love that you posted a chart, said it supported your claim, but now you say it's fudge. DURR

Lame. CO2 FRAUD fudges ocean levels. Strange, since there are no photos that show an ocean rise. Any idea why?

At the time that chart was made, CO2 FRAUD didn't know they'd get busted for SAP in the future, so they saw no reason to fudge. And that is the low level of scientific "intellect" of CO2 FRAUD, they didn't notice the obvious...

That's not what your chart showed

The standard is the global average. If there is a weather related "blip up" year somewhere, somewhere else there is a "blip down" year and it averages out.... to 6 digits for decades...

Atmosphere, surface air pressure = planetary.

That chart shows the local variance year to year by one locality, but not the planetary average.

Indeed, it is not "my definition" using the word "standard," "standard" has been used .... FOR DECADES.... without anyone detecting a global average change in SAP down to 6 digits, pretty darn stable.

Climate change is actually very slow. It isn't like Dennis Quaid's movie or McBullshit.

that shows an area

As warned in the OP, the only thing CO2 FRAUD can do is try to make it LOCAL.

The GLOBAL MEAN TEMPERATURE is not LOCAL, it is PLANETARY. SAP is also PLANETARY, which makes it a much better proxy than one ice core or a collection of locally fudged data summed together.

Find some Earth data that shows an area where that occurs.

That first requires having a clue as to WHAT is an "ice age," and CO2 FRAUD's definition is completely wrong and 100% refuted.

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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You said it resulted in an increase in P(0).

LMFAO!!!

The "thickness of zero" imaginary "plane" at "sea level" .... LOL!!


The P(0) is the pressure at sea level...


and CO2 FRAUD will try to argue that on that "thickness of zero" imaginary plane that T doesn't matter. Laughable. Air pressure is about gas molecules colliding with whatever is measuring the pressure. The faster the gas moves, the higher the air pressure, in EVERY direction including DOWN. T is what dictates the speed of the gas molecules.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Lame. CO2 FRAUD fudges ocean levels. Strange, since there are no photos that show an ocean rise. Any idea why?

At the time that chart was made, CO2 FRAUD didn't know they'd get busted for SAP in the future, so they saw no reason to fudge. And that is the low level of scientific "intellect" of CO2 FRAUD, they didn't notice the obvious...






The standard is the global average. If there is a weather related "blip up" year somewhere, somewhere else there is a "blip down" year and it averages out.... to 6 digits for decades...

Atmosphere, surface air pressure = planetary.

That chart shows the local variance year to year by one locality, but not the planetary average.

Indeed, it is not "my definition" using the word "standard," "standard" has been used .... FOR DECADES.... without anyone detecting a global average change in SAP down to 6 digits, pretty darn stable.

Climate change is actually very slow. It isn't like Dennis Quaid's movie or McBullshit.








As warned in the OP, the only thing CO2 FRAUD can do is try to make it LOCAL.

The GLOBAL MEAN TEMPERATURE is not LOCAL, it is PLANETARY. SAP is also PLANETARY, which makes it a much better proxy than one ice core or a collection of locally fudged data summed together.








That first requires having a clue as to WHAT is an "ice age," and CO2 FRAUD's definition is completely wrong and 100% refuted.

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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LMFAO!!!

The "thickness of zero" imaginary "plane" at "sea level" .... LOL!!


The P(0) is the pressure at sea level...


and CO2 FRAUD will try to argue that on that "thickness of zero" imaginary plane that T doesn't matter. Laughable. Air pressure is about gas molecules colliding with whatever is measuring the pressure. The faster the gas moves, the higher the air pressure, in EVERY direction including DOWN. T is what dictates the speed of the gas molecules.

Let me know when you're done running away like a coward and actually find some real data.

DURR

 

[CrusaderFrank]

According to CO2 FRAUD the "Global Mean Temperature" is...

1. one ice core from Antarctica, where temperature is extracted from Oxygen isotope ratios which CO2 FRAUD cannot answer what volcanic eruptions do to Oxygen isotope ratio, never mind the Antarctic Peninsula has such eruptions regularly

2. a summation of fudged local temperatures

3. fudged satellite and balloon data, when the actual data showed NO WARMING

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

Let's face it, a local temperature is not an Earth temperature. During the past million years, Greenland froze while North America thawed.


So how do we get a real "Global Mean Temperature" for planet Earth?


This is the air pressure equation. The T is the GLOBAL MEAN TEMPERATURE and CO2 FRAUD is completely busted by it....

Since everything else hasn't changed, Surface Air Pressure SAP would move with Global Mean Temperature. If Earth was warming, Surface Air Pressure would rise. SAP is not rising, not at all...

If "the ice is melting" was true, SAP would rise, as there is a lot of compressed air in the ice age glacier, and that would be added back into atmosphere, increasing air pressure. That is not happening. We know it has in the past because the ancient flying dinosaurs did fly, but couldn't without air pressure 3-5 times today's....



Surface Air Pressure proves Earth has not warmed AT ALL for at least the past 60+ years, and also has experienced ZERO net ice melt as well, NOTHING.


CO2 FRAUD responds with blabber about LOCAL temperatures, because that's all they can do.


Mars documents the truth, that SAP rises as planet warms. Mars has an extremely elliptical orbit, and warms and cools each year because of it...

Pluto does the same thing.

Earth does the same thing as SAP rises in January as Earth is closest to Sun in January


GoogAI
"Surface air pressure increases in January"



GAME OVER


All the claims of "warming" are busted as 100% pure fudged fraud BS.

Earth is NOT WARMING
There is no ongoing net ice melt

CO2 FRAUD needs to be prosecuted.... will it be, finally???

All good points!

Our Moon varies from 250F during the day to -210F at night, does this make the average temperature 40F? Is that meaningful?

 

[Old Rocks]

Let me know when you're done running away like a coward and actually find some real data.

DURR

Todd, old boy. concerning EMH;

 

[EMH]

The can't refute one word, and they know it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Can't post any real data, and you know it.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It’s the opposite of the Global Nice Temperature.

 

[EMH]

It’s the opposite of the Global Nice Temperature.

That's the "best" attempted "refutation" here.

The rest is "trying to make that which is planetary local" and lying about data, as if the OP isn't overflowing with it, and they can't refute any of it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's the "best" attempted "refutation" here.

The rest is "trying to make that which is planetary local" and lying about data, as if the OP isn't overflowing with it, and they can't refute any of it.

You know what you get when you average all the local data?

That's right, the global average.