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What is taught is the exact opposite of the words:
Examples:
Heaven is this earth (but they say sky):
(Ecclesiastes 1:4) (Psalm 37:22) (Psalm 37:34) (Psalms 37:29)(Isaiah 24:21-23) (Isaiah 25:8) & even their own bible(Matt 16:18).
Mishnah: Israel will have a portion in the world to come, for it is written,"Thy people are all righteous; they shall inherit the land forever,(heaven on earth) the branch of my planting, the work of My hands, that I may be glorified.'
The Righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked
shall not inhabit the earth. (Proverbs 10:30)
In their own Bible:
"For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain
in it. 22 But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the
transgressors shall be rooted out of it." (KJV)
(Then if the Righteous "never" leave this earth then why do they teach a Rapture, unless they admit they are
the wicked?)
Dead Sea Scrolls 4Q418 Frag. 81
13for all times His glory and His beauty are for the eternal plantation [of His chosen . . . ] |4[ . . . in..]*All those who inherit the earth shall walk, forth in heaven [...]* (meaning Heaven is this earth)
Thomas Verse 112 His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?" Jesus said, "It will not come be looking for it. Nor will it do"to say, 'Behold over here!' or 'Behold, over there!'. Rather, the kingdom of the Father is spread out on the earth, but people do not see it."
Amazingly many people argued that this verse means nothing, simply because it's the spoken words by Thomas' account. This is a typical cop out & smoke screen, as well as very deceptive tactic of people who need to lie to justify their faith. Well now that I caught them making excuses I can show you an exact replica of this verse in: Luke 17:20-21. So by keeping the same honest standard of reasoning then this means Luke is also invalid, so why do they use his gospels? AHH see they can't have it both ways like they always want it, nor use it as an excuse to avoid truths.
Death is final rest back to the dust of the earth (but they say sky):
Ecc 3:20 All go to the same place; all originate from dust and all return to dust.
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; 'Behold, I am against your pillows<font color=yellow>
(symbolically meaning:feathers/wings or dream/ fantasy), wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them FLY, and I will tear them from your arms. and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly...
(this means the souls that are stolen in the false hope of afterlife where they are told the soul rises and flys to a false, fantasy heaven.)
(22) Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way,
by PROMISING HIM LIFE:
Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver
My People out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the Lord."
No one has gone to heaven, John 3:13 says:
verse 13 Hebrews speaks "These ALL died in faith, not having received the promises..."
If they didn't receive the promises yet, then none of them is in heaven, which agrees with
John 3:13: "And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."
Psalms 6:3-5
oh save me for thy mercies' sake. For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
Psalms 115:17
The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.
(These verses prove, once your dead, you're not with God or praising God in Heaven)
Ecclesiastes 9:5,6
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.<BR>
If the Bible is saying the dead can't affect anything that happens here on earth. Why are people still praying to these dead saints when the dead can't hear them? Why do people still believe in hauntings, seances, apparitions etc??? They believe it because they never read in their Bibles the truth about these things, & they trust people who need to sell
snake oil in order to have an audience.
So in Summary to Death and Afterlife: Our Spirit (energy) can�t escape our law of properties and have conciousness or senses without a processor, which is from our brain throughout our vessel (Body). That's why we were formed, in stages of Processions, layer after layer, in order for concious energy to form out of being placed in a vessel which processed energy to give us the ability to experience "life". This is why there is no afterlife as energy, by itself, has no senses or conscious. This is the "ONE" life grace and we are blowing it for the fantasy deception.
THE CREATOR IS NOT A MAN (but they picture him as one):
G0D himself says that "G0D is not a man/G0D has no physical image or form" (in Isaiah 2:22, 14:11-13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith
based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus
haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)
�You're not to paint a picture of spiritual beings.�
Deuteronomy 4:16
"Lest ye corrupt [yourselves], and make you a graven image, the
similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female"
Deuteronomy 4:17
"The likeness of any beast that [is] on earth, the likeness of
any winged fowl that flieth in the air,"
(Because the Myth placed on ANGELS causes distortions and confusion on understanding what they are and accepting the Archangels who won�t look like the portraits)<BR>
Deuteronomy 4:23
"Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the LORD your God,
which he made with you, and make you a graven image, [or] the likeness of [anything Spiritual]..."
(Because expectations and Perceptions will be of that image)
Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10 We are forbidden to pray to any image of anything Physical
Angels are another term for messengers, sometimes refered to in Heaven, but never in the early scripture do they have wings, or are they portrayed as Mythical supernatural beings.
Someone mistakenly argued that the Bible did talk about wings, however, not on Malakh (angels) and it was a silly dream. That's like saying the Beast will have clay feet, because Daniel saw clay feet. The dream interpretation is more deep, as figuratively and not literal. Thus wings could hint to traveling messages through space and time. The Placement of Wings and assumptions of spirtual characters was borrowed & placed later by fantasy and distortions against the scripture warnings.
Since I clearly show where heaven is (the Future Earth) then Angels are Messengers from Future Earth and can't be assumed otherwise by myths and poor teachings that are against the words.
THE MESSIAH TO COME, IS BUT A MAN (NOT A GOD OR DIRECT SON OF GOD):
"And a right Prophet (Prophet of Righteousness ) will the Lord your God give you, a Prophet from among you, of your brethren."<BR>
"...out of thee(MAN) shall come forth unto me a Judge to be Ruler in Israel,and this is the King Messiah."<BR>
"The Scripture calleth the name of the Messiah, because He is the Mediator through whom we shall get the righteousness of the Lord." (Proof Messiah is just a liaison between the Lord and his people and is not the Lord himself, so he's not God, just a reflection of his principals or "One who's AS God".)
Misconception of Perfection or Sinless Messiah
Thanksgiving Hymn 12
Righteous, I know, is not man, nor is perfection the way of son of man:
to the Most High G0D belongs all righteous deeds. The way of man is not established, except by the spirit
which G0D created for him, to make perfect a way for the children of men, that all his creatures may know the might of his power, and the abundance of his mercies towards all the sons of his grace.
Understand, the Messiah was viewed as someone to be, just a man, as Moses was, just a man.
What made Moses great and will make the Messiah great, is the will and character to lead and liberate.
Just men with devotion towards what is fair, and they are just men, with extra senses and portions of "Light"
(i.e. Knowledge and Truth). The Messiah is not supernatural, or G0D, like the myths placed on previous idols to give them more power. The Mistakes and transgression formed, because the Roman's didn't understand the Messianic concept from the Judaic scripture, and they placed their pagan mythical concepts
into the role of the Messiah. Therefore this distorted expectation and teaching is a great mistake in understanding the working and mysteries of man, the bible prophecy, and the intended path to fulfillment of G0D's promises. People are therefore living in a Santa Claus Syndrome. Kids grow out of it, so why can't the adults?
Just way too opposite, to not notice something's wrong:
The Messiah is to bring peace to the nations but they say the Anti Christ will bring a false peace, so if the Messiah Brings peace he'll be taunted as the anti and if he doesn't they will say he's not the Messiah.
(Why don't you just tie his hands behind his back with that logic?)
The Messiah is to bring everyone to one understanding, but they say the anti Christ will try and convert people to one order.
They won't accept a Messiah unless he does miracles and great things, yet they claim the Anti Christ will do miracles and great things. Are they admiting they are the opposite twist adversary & their Christ is not anoited from God, but perhaps the opposite, Satan? Are they admiting they want to chase the Messiah away or keep people from recognizing him?
*This is where those bells and whistles should be going off in your head* Because they keep saying there are two Messiahs, the first deceives before the real one, however, scripture (I John 2:18, Rev 1:1,3,9,19, Rev 3:11,Rev 22:6,7,10,12,Matthew 24:31-34?) points to these things and the Beast coming from their era, which means their Idol Christ was the first false one.
backing this
Ezekiel 21:25-27)& the Coptic Translation of (Genesis 49:10) ..truncated
Examples:
Heaven is this earth (but they say sky):
(Ecclesiastes 1:4) (Psalm 37:22) (Psalm 37:34) (Psalms 37:29)(Isaiah 24:21-23) (Isaiah 25:8) & even their own bible(Matt 16:18).
Mishnah: Israel will have a portion in the world to come, for it is written,"Thy people are all righteous; they shall inherit the land forever,(heaven on earth) the branch of my planting, the work of My hands, that I may be glorified.'
The Righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked
shall not inhabit the earth. (Proverbs 10:30)
In their own Bible:
"For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain
in it. 22 But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the
transgressors shall be rooted out of it." (KJV)
(Then if the Righteous "never" leave this earth then why do they teach a Rapture, unless they admit they are
the wicked?)
Dead Sea Scrolls 4Q418 Frag. 81
13for all times His glory and His beauty are for the eternal plantation [of His chosen . . . ] |4[ . . . in..]*All those who inherit the earth shall walk, forth in heaven [...]* (meaning Heaven is this earth)
Thomas Verse 112 His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?" Jesus said, "It will not come be looking for it. Nor will it do"to say, 'Behold over here!' or 'Behold, over there!'. Rather, the kingdom of the Father is spread out on the earth, but people do not see it."
Amazingly many people argued that this verse means nothing, simply because it's the spoken words by Thomas' account. This is a typical cop out & smoke screen, as well as very deceptive tactic of people who need to lie to justify their faith. Well now that I caught them making excuses I can show you an exact replica of this verse in: Luke 17:20-21. So by keeping the same honest standard of reasoning then this means Luke is also invalid, so why do they use his gospels? AHH see they can't have it both ways like they always want it, nor use it as an excuse to avoid truths.
Death is final rest back to the dust of the earth (but they say sky):
Ecc 3:20 All go to the same place; all originate from dust and all return to dust.
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; 'Behold, I am against your pillows<font color=yellow>
(symbolically meaning:feathers/wings or dream/ fantasy), wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them FLY, and I will tear them from your arms. and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly...
(this means the souls that are stolen in the false hope of afterlife where they are told the soul rises and flys to a false, fantasy heaven.)
(22) Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way,
by PROMISING HIM LIFE:
Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver
My People out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the Lord."
No one has gone to heaven, John 3:13 says:
verse 13 Hebrews speaks "These ALL died in faith, not having received the promises..."
If they didn't receive the promises yet, then none of them is in heaven, which agrees with
John 3:13: "And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."
Psalms 6:3-5
oh save me for thy mercies' sake. For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
Psalms 115:17
The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.
(These verses prove, once your dead, you're not with God or praising God in Heaven)
Ecclesiastes 9:5,6
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.<BR>
If the Bible is saying the dead can't affect anything that happens here on earth. Why are people still praying to these dead saints when the dead can't hear them? Why do people still believe in hauntings, seances, apparitions etc??? They believe it because they never read in their Bibles the truth about these things, & they trust people who need to sell
snake oil in order to have an audience.
So in Summary to Death and Afterlife: Our Spirit (energy) can�t escape our law of properties and have conciousness or senses without a processor, which is from our brain throughout our vessel (Body). That's why we were formed, in stages of Processions, layer after layer, in order for concious energy to form out of being placed in a vessel which processed energy to give us the ability to experience "life". This is why there is no afterlife as energy, by itself, has no senses or conscious. This is the "ONE" life grace and we are blowing it for the fantasy deception.
THE CREATOR IS NOT A MAN (but they picture him as one):
G0D himself says that "G0D is not a man/G0D has no physical image or form" (in Isaiah 2:22, 14:11-13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith
based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus
haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)
�You're not to paint a picture of spiritual beings.�
Deuteronomy 4:16
"Lest ye corrupt [yourselves], and make you a graven image, the
similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female"
Deuteronomy 4:17
"The likeness of any beast that [is] on earth, the likeness of
any winged fowl that flieth in the air,"
(Because the Myth placed on ANGELS causes distortions and confusion on understanding what they are and accepting the Archangels who won�t look like the portraits)<BR>
Deuteronomy 4:23
"Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the LORD your God,
which he made with you, and make you a graven image, [or] the likeness of [anything Spiritual]..."
(Because expectations and Perceptions will be of that image)
Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10 We are forbidden to pray to any image of anything Physical
Angels are another term for messengers, sometimes refered to in Heaven, but never in the early scripture do they have wings, or are they portrayed as Mythical supernatural beings.
Someone mistakenly argued that the Bible did talk about wings, however, not on Malakh (angels) and it was a silly dream. That's like saying the Beast will have clay feet, because Daniel saw clay feet. The dream interpretation is more deep, as figuratively and not literal. Thus wings could hint to traveling messages through space and time. The Placement of Wings and assumptions of spirtual characters was borrowed & placed later by fantasy and distortions against the scripture warnings.
Since I clearly show where heaven is (the Future Earth) then Angels are Messengers from Future Earth and can't be assumed otherwise by myths and poor teachings that are against the words.
THE MESSIAH TO COME, IS BUT A MAN (NOT A GOD OR DIRECT SON OF GOD):
"And a right Prophet (Prophet of Righteousness ) will the Lord your God give you, a Prophet from among you, of your brethren."<BR>
"...out of thee(MAN) shall come forth unto me a Judge to be Ruler in Israel,and this is the King Messiah."<BR>
"The Scripture calleth the name of the Messiah, because He is the Mediator through whom we shall get the righteousness of the Lord." (Proof Messiah is just a liaison between the Lord and his people and is not the Lord himself, so he's not God, just a reflection of his principals or "One who's AS God".)
Misconception of Perfection or Sinless Messiah
Thanksgiving Hymn 12
Righteous, I know, is not man, nor is perfection the way of son of man:
to the Most High G0D belongs all righteous deeds. The way of man is not established, except by the spirit
which G0D created for him, to make perfect a way for the children of men, that all his creatures may know the might of his power, and the abundance of his mercies towards all the sons of his grace.
Understand, the Messiah was viewed as someone to be, just a man, as Moses was, just a man.
What made Moses great and will make the Messiah great, is the will and character to lead and liberate.
Just men with devotion towards what is fair, and they are just men, with extra senses and portions of "Light"
(i.e. Knowledge and Truth). The Messiah is not supernatural, or G0D, like the myths placed on previous idols to give them more power. The Mistakes and transgression formed, because the Roman's didn't understand the Messianic concept from the Judaic scripture, and they placed their pagan mythical concepts
into the role of the Messiah. Therefore this distorted expectation and teaching is a great mistake in understanding the working and mysteries of man, the bible prophecy, and the intended path to fulfillment of G0D's promises. People are therefore living in a Santa Claus Syndrome. Kids grow out of it, so why can't the adults?
Just way too opposite, to not notice something's wrong:
The Messiah is to bring peace to the nations but they say the Anti Christ will bring a false peace, so if the Messiah Brings peace he'll be taunted as the anti and if he doesn't they will say he's not the Messiah.
(Why don't you just tie his hands behind his back with that logic?)
The Messiah is to bring everyone to one understanding, but they say the anti Christ will try and convert people to one order.
They won't accept a Messiah unless he does miracles and great things, yet they claim the Anti Christ will do miracles and great things. Are they admiting they are the opposite twist adversary & their Christ is not anoited from God, but perhaps the opposite, Satan? Are they admiting they want to chase the Messiah away or keep people from recognizing him?
*This is where those bells and whistles should be going off in your head* Because they keep saying there are two Messiahs, the first deceives before the real one, however, scripture (I John 2:18, Rev 1:1,3,9,19, Rev 3:11,Rev 22:6,7,10,12,Matthew 24:31-34?) points to these things and the Beast coming from their era, which means their Idol Christ was the first false one.
backing this
Ezekiel 21:25-27)& the Coptic Translation of (Genesis 49:10) ..truncated
