What is Obama's Endgame?

[RKMBrown]

Then what?

The government defaults. The blame gets put on the Republicans. 2014 they will be purged from the house and senate.

That's what.

Would you say you a typical example of the intelligence of democrats? Just curious.

Would you say you a?

That code talk?

Could you post that in English?

Sometimes the fingers don't catch up...

Would you say you [are] a typical example of the intelligence of democrats? Just curious.

 

[Redfish]

That's the halarity of the whole thing. It's about ending Obamacare before it really gets going, and Obama will let hell freeze over first. A small minority is willing to keep the govt shut down over that, but most, including wall st and employers want to move on.

But spending cuts, the medical device tax, the frigging pipleline from Hell .... all that's negotable. In a sense Reid is right, Boehner can't take yes for an answer. it's like arguing with a spouse. We need Dr Phil.

Wrong again, you left wing tool. Obama has already given big business a 1 year extension, why not the same for average americans?

I know the answer, another year for the people to see what obozocare is all about and they will reject it completely, obama and the dems know that and thats the sole reason that they have shut down the govt.


BTW, one party in one house of congress CANNOT SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, ONLY THE WHITEHOUSE CAN SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, AND IT HAS.

 

[Sarah G]

The BHO endgame remains the same: destroy the TPM and preserve ACA.

He's focused and following through. It's no wonder they hate him so much.

 

[RKMBrown]

That's the halarity of the whole thing. It's about ending Obamacare before it really gets going, and Obama will let hell freeze over first. A small minority is willing to keep the govt shut down over that, but most, including wall st and employers want to move on.

But spending cuts, the medical device tax, the frigging pipleline from Hell .... all that's negotable. In a sense Reid is right, Boehner can't take yes for an answer. it's like arguing with a spouse. We need Dr Phil.

Wrong again, you left wing tool. Obama has already given big business a 1 year extension, why not the same for average americans?

I know the answer, another year for the people to see what obozocare is all about and they will reject it completely, obama and the dems know that and thats the sole reason that they have shut down the govt.


BTW, one party in one house of congress CANNOT SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, ONLY THE WHITEHOUSE CAN SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, AND IT HAS.

To be fair, even the WH can't shut down the government. However, they can perform a partial shut down of non-essentials. And that has happened.

 

[Sallow]

Democrat "intelligence" consists solely of spying on you and your children. But only, of course, in the interest of their "security".

And who put up the Patriot Act?

John Yoo and Alberto Gonzales worked for who?

The Department of Homeland Security what formed under which administration?

The Supreme Court Justice, Scalia, who held that cruel and unusual punishment only holds if someone is charged with a crime, who appointed by who?

Go on..lets get down to brass tacks. Who's been driving the crushing of civil liberties in this country?

It isn't the Democrats.

 

[zeke]

That's the halarity of the whole thing. It's about ending Obamacare before it really gets going, and Obama will let hell freeze over first. A small minority is willing to keep the govt shut down over that, but most, including wall st and employers want to move on.

But spending cuts, the medical device tax, the frigging pipleline from Hell .... all that's negotable. In a sense Reid is right, Boehner can't take yes for an answer. it's like arguing with a spouse. We need Dr Phil.

Wrong again, you left wing tool. Obama has already given big business a 1 year extension, why not the same for average americans?

I know the answer, another year for the people to see what obozocare is all about and they will reject it completely, obama and the dems know that and thats the sole reason that they have shut down the govt.


BTW, one party in one house of congress CANNOT SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, ONLY THE WHITEHOUSE CAN SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, AND IT HAS.

You didn't really say that did you? Dummy. You need to take a civics class. The President is not a dictator. He can't just "shut down the government".

We're not really shut down, we just can't pay all the people who work for us. So they don't get to come to work. President didn't do that.

What? You want him to dig in his own pocket to fund the government? Is that it?

 

[Redfish]

That's the halarity of the whole thing. It's about ending Obamacare before it really gets going, and Obama will let hell freeze over first. A small minority is willing to keep the govt shut down over that, but most, including wall st and employers want to move on.

But spending cuts, the medical device tax, the frigging pipleline from Hell .... all that's negotable. In a sense Reid is right, Boehner can't take yes for an answer. it's like arguing with a spouse. We need Dr Phil.

Wrong again, you left wing tool. Obama has already given big business a 1 year extension, why not the same for average americans?

I know the answer, another year for the people to see what obozocare is all about and they will reject it completely, obama and the dems know that and thats the sole reason that they have shut down the govt.


BTW, one party in one house of congress CANNOT SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, ONLY THE WHITEHOUSE CAN SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, AND IT HAS.

To be fair, even the WH can't shut down the government. However, they can perform a partial shut down of non-essentials. And that has happened.

correct, thanks

 

[Redfish]

That's the halarity of the whole thing. It's about ending Obamacare before it really gets going, and Obama will let hell freeze over first. A small minority is willing to keep the govt shut down over that, but most, including wall st and employers want to move on.

But spending cuts, the medical device tax, the frigging pipleline from Hell .... all that's negotable. In a sense Reid is right, Boehner can't take yes for an answer. it's like arguing with a spouse. We need Dr Phil.

Wrong again, you left wing tool. Obama has already given big business a 1 year extension, why not the same for average americans?

I know the answer, another year for the people to see what obozocare is all about and they will reject it completely, obama and the dems know that and thats the sole reason that they have shut down the govt.


BTW, one party in one house of congress CANNOT SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, ONLY THE WHITEHOUSE CAN SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, AND IT HAS.

You didn't really say that did you? Dummy. You need to take a civics class. The President is not a dictator. He can't just "shut down the government".

We're not really shut down, we just can't pay all the people who work for us. So they don't get to come to work. President didn't do that.

What? You want him to dig in his own pocket to fund the government? Is that it?

every govt employee is getting paid except the 15% who obama sent home because they were "non-essential". when this is over they will get their back pay, without working for it. Obama did direct the partial shutdown, congress does not have that power.

 

[Redfish]

Democrat "intelligence" consists solely of spying on you and your children. But only, of course, in the interest of their "security".

And who put up the Patriot Act?

John Yoo and Alberto Gonzales worked for who?

The Department of Homeland Security what formed under which administration?

The Supreme Court Justice, Scalia, who held that cruel and unusual punishment only holds if someone is charged with a crime, who appointed by who?

Go on..lets get down to brass tacks. Who's been driving the crushing of civil liberties in this country?

It isn't the Democrats.

Hmmm, did obama repeal the patriot act? nope

is obama killing people with drones? yep

is gitmo still open? yep

is NSA spying on americans under obama? yep

Is IRS targeting obama's "enemies"? yep.

violations of civil liberties? better check what your hero is doing, shallow.

 

[Redfish]

The BHO endgame remains the same: destroy the TPM and preserve ACA.

He's focused and following through. It's no wonder they hate him so much.

focused on ramming a bill that 65% of america does not want up our collective butts, while he gives extentions to his corporate cronies and congress votes themselves a 72% subsidy.

and you are so stupid that you celebrate this shit?

 

[bendog]

The BHO endgame remains the same: destroy the TPM and preserve ACA.

He's focused and following through. It's no wonder they hate him so much.

focused on ramming a bill that 65% of america does not want up our collective butts, while he gives extentions to his corporate cronies and congress votes themselves a 72% subsidy.

and you are so stupid that you celebrate this shit?

So whatta think. Does Fish believe this crap or is he just dissembling?

 

[Redfish]

He's focused and following through. It's no wonder they hate him so much.

focused on ramming a bill that 65% of america does not want up our collective butts, while he gives extentions to his corporate cronies and congress votes themselves a 72% subsidy.

and you are so stupid that you celebrate this shit?

So whatta think. Does Fish believe this crap or is he just dissembling?

everything I said is true. obama and the dems do not a want a year delay in the individual mandate because they know that with a year to look at it the people will see what obamacare is all about and reject it completely. They know that, and thats the sole reason why they are refusing to negotiate and have shut down parts of the govt----non-essential parts.

just a question, why do we need non-essential govt employees? if they are not essential then they are not needed, put them on permanent shutdown.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

He's focused and following through. It's no wonder they hate him so much.

focused on ramming a bill that 65% of america does not want up our collective butts, while he gives extentions to his corporate cronies and congress votes themselves a 72% subsidy.

and you are so stupid that you celebrate this shit?

So whatta think. Does Fish believe this crap or is he just dissembling?

it's "crap" alright......you idiot pied piper followers just can't face the truth of it....

 

[Sarah G]

The BHO endgame remains the same: destroy the TPM and preserve ACA.

He's focused and following through. It's no wonder they hate him so much.

focused on ramming a bill that 65% of america does not want up our collective butts, while he gives extentions to his corporate cronies and congress votes themselves a 72% subsidy.

and you are so stupid that you celebrate this shit?

It was rammed through years ago, fyi and your percentage is slightly off.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

He's focused and following through. It's no wonder they hate him so much.

focused on ramming a bill that 65% of america does not want up our collective butts, while he gives extentions to his corporate cronies and congress votes themselves a 72% subsidy.

and you are so stupid that you celebrate this shit?

It was rammed through years ago, fyi and your percentage is slightly off.

amazing how you lemmings can catch the tiny details but totally miss the big truth.....

 

[RKMBrown]

Democrat "intelligence" consists solely of spying on you and your children. But only, of course, in the interest of their "security".

And who put up the Patriot Act?

John Yoo and Alberto Gonzales worked for who?

The Department of Homeland Security what formed under which administration?

The Supreme Court Justice, Scalia, who held that cruel and unusual punishment only holds if someone is charged with a crime, who appointed by who?

Go on..lets get down to brass tacks. Who's been driving the crushing of civil liberties in this country?

It isn't the Democrats.

Hmmm, did obama repeal the patriot act? nope

is obama killing people with drones? yep

is gitmo still open? yep

is NSA spying on americans under obama? yep

Is IRS targeting obama's "enemies"? yep.

violations of civil liberties? better check what your hero is doing, shallow.

Bush's Un-Patriot Act had an Expiration date that has passed. It's Obama's Un-Patriot Act now.

 

[TooTall]

Democrat "intelligence" consists solely of spying on you and your children. But only, of course, in the interest of their "security".

And who put up the Patriot Act?

John Yoo and Alberto Gonzales worked for who?

The Department of Homeland Security what formed under which administration?

The Supreme Court Justice, Scalia, who held that cruel and unusual punishment only holds if someone is charged with a crime, who appointed by who?

Go on..lets get down to brass tacks. Who's been driving the crushing of civil liberties in this country?

It isn't the Democrats.

Really?

On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed the PATRIOT Sunsets Extension Act of 2011, a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act: roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves"—individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups.

 

[Sarah G]

He's focused and following through. It's no wonder they hate him so much.

focused on ramming a bill that 65% of america does not want up our collective butts, while he gives extentions to his corporate cronies and congress votes themselves a 72% subsidy.

and you are so stupid that you celebrate this shit?

So whatta think. Does Fish believe this crap or is he just dissembling?

I don't think anyone even cares what he believes.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

As more and more people are affected by the R's lunacy, more and more won't vote for them. And, even if they are directly affected, people see what the Rs are doing. Like yesterday, most people now know that, thanks to the Rs, the cops who rushed to the rescue of congress people are not getting paid but still have to work. IOW, while the cops had their backs, the Rs had long ago, kicked the cops to the curb and then stepped on them.

OTOH, most of these Repub jerks have successfully gerrymandered their districts and/or been successful in getting voter suppression laws passed that they are virtually untouchable. They are set for life in jobs where they are on paid vacation for 2/3 of the year.

Earlier, I heard a news story about GObP money drying up. Apparently, even some of the wealthy are fed up with the R's steadfast refusal to even pretend to work for the good of the US.

The idiocy of this shutdown will go far beyond a few weeks

The Republicans are entrenching themselves as the party willing to put the country through any hardship to satisfy their agenda

Young people ask...Why would I want to belong to THAT party?

I really do believe that this mess perfectly illustrates just how secure the Rs are in their gerrymandered districts. They really don't care what the people see and believe about them because the next election has already been decided.

At this point, only a fool would ask what Obama's "end game" is. Much more important is, how much more will the pubs get away with stealing from the American people.

Even though there is no reason to, these blind little minions actually believe Prez Barry is coming for their guns and bibles yadda yadda. It seems impossible until you look at the people they idolize - beck, lushbo, fux, Alex whats-his-name - true nutters that send them shopping for more tin foil every day.

Meanwhile, the Rs continue their race to the bottom. And, they won't quit until they have killed the United States and 'parted it out' to other countries.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

focused on ramming a bill that 65% of america does not want up our collective butts, while he gives extentions to his corporate cronies and congress votes themselves a 72% subsidy.

and you are so stupid that you celebrate this shit?

So whatta think. Does Fish believe this crap or is he just dissembling?

I don't think anyone even cares what he believes.

Who?