What is Meant by "Well Regulated"?

[gipper]

Why do you hate a secure free state?

Why would you oppose regulating militias?

I don‘t.

 

[SweetSue92]

Absolutely
We cannot have the security of a free state without well regulated militias

A bunch of rednecks running around with AR-15s is not well regulated

When are economy completely caves in let's see who survives shall we?? The urban brunch set or the rednecks with hunting guns

 

[BlackSand]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

constitutioncenter.org

What is your definition of a "well regulated Militia"?

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Well Regulated ... When any State or Local government writes a law that forms, arms, and provides for a Militia.
Any absence of such a law does not grant the Federal Government the power to infringe upon the individual's rights.

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[rightwinger]

When are economy completely caves in let's see who survives shall we?? The urban brunch set or the rednecks with hunting guns

I have been preparing for the eventual collapse of our economy

I have been stockpiling canned Beer
When the Zombie Apocalypse hits, canned Beer will become the currency of choice.

Bitcoin on Steroids

 

[Blues Man]

How is a militia in proper working order?

Well trained, command structure, well equipped, you know who is in it

All militias have been under government control either state or local

Where does it say that command structure had to be the government? Nowhere.

 

[rightwinger]

Where does it say that command structure had to be the government? Nowhere.

Why Government?
Because state and local Government had the money to fund local militias.

Didn‘t see many privately funded militias

 

[Blues Man]

Why Government?
Because state and local Government had the money to fund local militias.

Didn‘t see many privately funded militias

You mean the militias where everyone brought their own guns and equipment?

 

[rightwinger]

You mean the militias where everyone brought their own guns and equipment?

They were funded by their local communities

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

constitutioncenter.org

What is your definition of a "well regulated Militia"?

It's irrelevant because "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" only means one thing.

 

[Blues Man]

They were funded by their local communities

Funded by does not mean controlled by. And like I said people brought their own weapons and gear to the fight it wasn't provided by the town. Maybe some foodstuffs or other minimal support but that's about it

There were no governmental employees in most towns so the commander of the militia was most likely NOT on any government payroll but was rather a common citizen

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

The states were fighting amongst themselves. Now we have the NG, the military wing to protect us.

But for those who did the Jan 6th they are traitors and should be treated as necessary, esp the congressmen.

Where was the "military wing" at that grocery store in Buffalo, NY?

 

[rightwinger]

Funded by does not mean controlled by. And like I said people brought their own weapons and gear to the fight it wasn't provided by the town. Maybe some foodstuffs or other minimal support but that's about it

There were no governmental employees in most towns so the commander of the militia was most likely NOT on any government payroll but was rather a common citizen

Depending on the size of the community, militias were provided with uniforms, small artillery, ordinance
Many had a local arsenal of supplies

Militia leaders were normally well connected local citizens

 

[Blues Man]

Depending on the size of the community, militias were provided with uniforms, small artillery, ordinance
Many had a local arsenal of supplies

Militia leaders were normally well connected local citizens

So they were not led by government employees like I said

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Absolutely
We cannot have the security of a free state without well regulated militias

A bunch of rednecks running around with AR-15s is not well regulated

And they aren't the militia. Never were intended to be. The right of the people to keep and bear arms is intended the give the people the ability to defend themselves.

 

[rightwinger]

So they were not led by government employees like I said

National Guard is not led by Government employees

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

"A well regulated militia" doesn't mean much in the context of the 2A. It's a desire to have a militia that is well regulated, rather than saying it must be.

The Amendment is about the militia, about protecting the militia.

You protect the militia by protecting the arms (keep arms) and the personnel (bear arms).

It's not a difficult amendment to understand, what's difficult is that everyone's trying to get it to fit their own agenda.

The Bill of Rights are the rights of the people, not rights of the government.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

National Guard is not led by Government employees

The fuck it isn't...lol

 

[rightwinger]

And they aren't the militia. Never were intended to be. The right of the people to keep and bear arms is intended the give the people the ability to defend themselves.

The second amendment never says that

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

The second amendment never says that

It absolutely does. It makes a stark distinction between the militia and the people.

 

[gipper]

The second amendment never says that

Why do you want to take away rights from Americans? Are you an authoritarian or a Fascist?