What is driving this trade war?

One example is at the border

The migrant invasion has been reduced to practically nothing
Well sure. No one wants to come here. I won't try to argue this. I don't like them coming that way either. Parties change. I hope the Democrats get the message we don't want immigrants coming in that way.

Still doesn't make me want to vote for Trump. The negatives still outweigh the positives. Like telling the Supreme Court no, attacking Harvard and PBS, Pete Hegseth and his idiots, threatening criminals with human rights violations, no due process, inflation, trade wars, all for what? For uneducated blue collar workers? I'm not buying it
 
Well sure. No one wants to come here. I won't try to argue this. I don't like them coming that way either. Parties change. I hope the Democrats get the message we don't want immigrants coming in that way.

Still doesn't make me want to vote for Trump. The negatives still outweigh the positives. Like telling the Supreme Court no, attacking Harvard and PBS, Pete Hegseth and his idiots, threatening criminals with human rights violations, no due process, inflation, trade wars, all for what? For uneducated blue collar workers? I'm not buying it
Still doesn't make me want to vote for Trump.

If not for trump instead of harris the migrant invasion would still be going strong
 
Well sure. No one wants to come here. I won't try to argue this. I don't like them coming that way either. Parties change. I hope the Democrats get the message we don't want immigrants coming in that way.

Still doesn't make me want to vote for Trump. The negatives still outweigh the positives. Like telling the Supreme Court no, attacking Harvard and PBS, Pete Hegseth and his idiots, threatening criminals with human rights violations, no due process, inflation, trade wars, all for what? For uneducated blue collar workers? I'm not buying it
Blue collar workers may not have as much useless book larnin’ as some libs, but they often have very useful skills that a soda jerk at Starbucks with a masters degree should have but doesent
 
Still doesn't make me want to vote for Trump.

If not for trump instead of harris the migrant invasion would still be going strong
Nope. She was going to fix the problem last year remember?

Doesn't change the fact Trump is doing a horrible job. And of course you say he's not.

Remember Trump 1.0? What MAGA? Was it the stock market? Energy independence? Low unemployment? Black people's wages?

All the things that you said MAGA on Trump's watch, Biden did better. Think about that. We were more energy independent under Biden. Stock market did better. Jobs added. Biden, Biden, Biden.

Who's doing better today because of Trump? No one. And you claim this is all to help uneducated blue collar workers who in the 2000's you sent all their good jobs away when you voted for Bush and attacked those lazy UNION workers? Funny how if they organize you attack them but now you defend those same deplorables.

Trump will help corporations. That's who this is helping. Republicans helped them as they moved their operations overseas and now you are "saving" America by giving those companies tax breaks to move back. And tariffing the companies we've been buying from.

Republicans can't make up their minds. Trump tells you to stop liking free trade suddenly you're isolationists. Weirdo's
 
Nope. She was going to fix the problem last year remember?

Doesn't change the fact Trump is doing a horrible job. And of course you say he's not.

Remember Trump 1.0? What MAGA? Was it the stock market? Energy independence? Low unemployment? Black people's wages?

All the things that you said MAGA on Trump's watch, Biden did better. Think about that. We were more energy independent under Biden. Stock market did better. Jobs added. Biden, Biden, Biden.

Who's doing better today because of Trump? No one. And you claim this is all to help uneducated blue collar workers who in the 2000's you sent all their good jobs away when you voted for Bush and attacked those lazy UNION workers? Funny how if they organize you attack them but now you defend those same deplorables.

Trump will help corporations. That's who this is helping. Republicans helped them as they moved their operations overseas and now you are "saving" America by giving those companies tax breaks to move back. And tariffing the companies we've been buying from.

Republicans can't make up their minds. Trump tells you to stop liking free trade suddenly you're isolationists. Weirdo's
you have such a childish opinion of MAGAs

Trump didnt invent Americans souring on globalism and free trade

He was against it long ago and so were we

Now two powerful forces are working together
 
Harris is all talk and no action

Sometimes trump talks too much or says the wrong thing

but he gets things done
No, Biden and Harris were all action no talk. You guys are all talk.

WE always give you a great economy. You can always pick and find something wrong with the economy. It was so fucking good, all Trump could pick on was the fact that all the uneducated blue collar workers lost their jobs under Clinton/Bush/Obama/HIMSELF/Biden.

Well he has a point. But the truth is, Trump would send those high paying union jobs overseas too. Or he would illegally fire them with the legally went on strike. We know Trump wouldn't have been a champion for those deplorables back then. But now he can pretend to be.

Trump is a master of pointing out the problems in our society. Not fixing them.
 
Trump is the wild card. They all know he's a buffoon, they all know anyone representing him is his slave, and yet he holds so many of the economic cards. They're starting to move away, but they're largely stuck with us until they can detach.

Did you see where one of China's conditions for negotiating is that Trump is NOT there? Obviously he and his flock will think it's because he's awesome and China is afraid of him, but obviously it's because they can't believe a word he says, and they're just not into his flamboyant showbiz crap. They're serious.

But don't worry, Trump says "winning trade wars is easy". So far, so good!

:spinner:

It's because Xi knows he's dealing with a child and clown. Why would a world leader and grown ass man choose to sit down and have a serious conversation with a 13 year old?
 
No, Biden and Harris were all action no talk.
Probably because neither one has the ability to coherently communicate.
Too bad their "actions" were all detrimental to the country. That's why Joe dropped out and Kamala lost in a landslide. Don't drop your pom-poms on the way out.
 
Still doesn't make me want to vote for Trump.

If not for trump instead of harris the migrant invasion would still be going strong

The amount of encounters at the border has dropped dramatically from around 60k a month under Biden, at the end of his term to 11k since a month since Trump took office. This is because of his executive order to suspend the asylum law. The thing is, executive orders can't permanently reverse a federal law. Eventually this will be overturned. It's easy to get shit done when you're actively breaking the law, not unusual for a convicted felon. Everyone else who is law abiding has to do everything the legal way.
 
Probably because neither one has the ability to coherently communicate.
Too bad their "actions" were all detrimental to the country. That's why Joe dropped out and Kamala lost in a landslide. Don't drop your pom-poms on the way out.
Trump did not sin by a landslide. He does not have a mandate.
 
Sure

They flooded the country with 12-15 million migrants, fentanyl, murder, rape, AIDS, Polio, Measles and other unwanted diseases
But given the chance to fix the problem, Trump and his cult voted no.

Donald Trump killed the bipartisan border bill to save his ...​

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The Arizona Republic
https://www.azcentral.com › ej-montini › 2024/08/22
Aug 22, 2024 — Trump killed a bipartisan bill because he knew it would render his entire campaign irrelevant. And now, he's visiting the Arizona border to complain.

Now Trump's "solution" is glorious.
 
The amount of encounters at the border has dropped dramatically from around 60k a month under Biden, at the end of his term to 11k since a month since Trump took office. This is because of his executive order to suspend the asylum law. The thing is, executive orders can't permanently reverse a federal law. Eventually this will be overturned. It's easy to get shit done when you're actively breaking the law, not unusual for a convicted felon. Everyone else who is law abiding has to do everything the legal way.
Trump has not suspended the asylum law

What he says is that asylum seekers must remain in mexico till their case is reviewed

And that is not going to change
 
But given the chance to fix the problem, Trump and his cult voted no.

Donald Trump killed the bipartisan border bill to save his ...

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The Arizona Republic
https://www.azcentral.com › ej-montini › 2024/08/22
Aug 22, 2024 — Trump killed a bipartisan bill because he knew it would render his entire campaign irrelevant. And now, he's visiting the Arizona border to complain.

Now Trump's "solution" is glorious.
The bill was not bipsrtisan

It was business as usual inside washington all the way

Trump is moving in s different direction
 
The bill was not bipsrtisan

It was business as usual inside washington all the way

Trump is moving in s different direction
Yeah, the crash and burn direction.

Deport all immigrants THEN, worry about the crops being harvested.
 
I sure would like to know the nature of the conversations Trump had with Putin in Saudi Arabia.

Because everything Trump is doing is working in Putin's favor.

DOGE Goons Blamed for 'Significant Cybersecurity Breach'​

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The Daily Beast
https://www.thedailybeast.com › whistleblower-blames-m...
2 days ago — A whistleblower said he observed suspicious log-in attempts from an IP address in Russia using DOGE's new accounts.


In his disclosure, Berulis said he became concerned when he saw peculiar spikes in data leaving the agency after DOGE staffers—who insisted that their actions not be tracked in the system—gained access. He also observed suspicious log-in attempts from an IP address in Russia using DOGE’s new accounts.

The NLRB is an independent federal agency born out of the New Deal that protects the labor rights of private sector employees. It investigates and resolves disputes involving workers, companies, and unions.

Berulis told Reuters that because his agency handles case files about labor disputes, the data at risk includes proprietary business information, details about unions, and affidavits from legal cases. Labor experts told NPR that the data could be used by private companies—including those owned by Musk—to gain a competitive advantage.


Both Musk and Trump are Russian assets.
 
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