Once again you prove to be beyond help and completely ignorant and misinformed. There are several reasons why they hate us. One is our presence and influence in the ME, but not in the way you think it is. They(Islamic fundamentalists) do not support our Western way of life.
Guy, I just said that, and you try to spin it a different way. Yes, they don't like us being there. Just like you wouldn't like it if a bunch of Iranians or Arabs occupied whatever part of Jesus-Land you live in. ****, you people completely freak out if some Mexicans move in next door and play their music too loud.
They obviously don't agree with the Christians in our country and they most certainly don't agree with the radical left in our country that pushes for same sex marriage, woman's rights, etc.
Okay. And why is that any of our business... Look, when we go into those countries, it's not like we actually say, "Okay, starting tomorrow, you are going to be doing abortions and gay marriages" We don't really even promote "Democracy" anymore, because if they took a vote, the Islamists would win. Instead, we go in, prop up an idiot like Karzi or Maliki who doesn't know what he's doing, and watch the place spiral out of control.in corruption and incompetence.
Let's not forget, our closest ally in the ME are the Saudis, who are probably the most repressive of the lot. And Trump says "How High?" when they say "Jump".
The regimes in Iran are radical. The regimes are not for Western influence of any kind, including economic. They are flat out jealous to some extent.
Okay, let's look at Iran. In 1953, the people of Iran DEMOCRATICALLY voted to get rid of the Shah and control their own economy instead of British Petroleum running it. The CIA went in, toppled the PM and put the Shah back in power, who proceeded to oppress any western-minded liberals for the next 26 years.
The reason why the Clergy became the only force that could oppose him was because even he knew he couldn't attack the Clergy. It would be like attacking God.
When the people of Iran rose up and overthrew the Shah, we like a bunch of idiots started screwing with them. We've been economically punishing them for 40 years now, even after they returned our hostages. We funded Saddam Hussien who made war on them for 8 years, until he turned on us.
You see, you want to make it the "West" against Iran. But most of the west wants to normalize relations with Iran. Germany, France the UK don't like that Trump scrapped the nuclear deal they worked very hard on, and have condemned the Assassination of Solemani.
They also despise our support for Israel.
As well they should. Here again, most of the world despises the Zionist Entity. Even a lot of liberal Jews are horrified by what the Zionists do. The US, though, we have all you idiots in the Red States who think we should prop up Israel so Jesus can come back!
Being the non-believer you are, I guess you don't care, but no matter how you slice it, the US was founded as a Christian nation and Israel is a country that we will and should continue to support.
Um, yeah, I don't care about a bunch of bronze age fairy tales... Besides the fact that most of the Founding Fathers were Deists, not Christians, they also thought shitting in a chamber pot was good idea, slavery was acceptable and bleeding someone to treat strep throat was a solid medical treatment.
It's the 21st ******* century. We have space shuttles and computers... time to put the fairy tales aside.
That ticks them off and some other predominately Shia Islam nations. Israel is typically a counter puncher, it is their enemies that are motivated by their hate that are throwing the punches.
The Zionist entity isn't "counter puncher". They are invaders. Most of the wars in with their neighbors, THEY SHOT FIRST. Some of them were outright wars of aggression, like when they conspired with France and the UK to seize the Suez Canal in 1956.
If the Zionists want to live in peace, here's a plan for that. Pack your ******* bags and go back to Europe where you came from.
No matter what, you leftists always ultimately end up defending terrorists, blaming America and supporting Communism/Socialism/Totalitarianism. Haven't you figured out why this happens? You are programmed and don't even recognize it.
Uh, one more time, I was more right wing than you are up until 2008. It's a matter of critical thinking. We've been in the "War on Terror" for 19 years now. We've been taking military action in or against Iraq since 1990. That you sit there like a little knob and thin, "Well, maybe if we just take out this guy, that will fix the problem." Solemani is just another in a long list of "This guy" we've taken out, but the people there still ******* hate us.
I've never had any use for the Zionists, though. They've been playing us for fools for years.
As far as supporting "Totalitarianism", we've propped up Somoza, Batista, Marcos, the Shah, a whole list of real bastards. Then we wonder why the people of their countries hate us when these guys get overthrown.
Here's a crazy idea. Our approach to the world should be, "We don't like the government you have, but that's your own business, not ours".
None of this will sink it, probably because no one you care about is likely to come back in a box.
