MarathonMike
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If that happens, does that change anything with respect to your religious views?proof eh. When they say, take me to your leader, i'll believe
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If that happens, does that change anything with respect to your religious views?proof eh. When they say, take me to your leader, i'll believe
Would proof of intelligent extra-terrestrial life forms change anyone's views on their respective religion and/or beliefs? Why or why not?
First off it's not going to happen. Even if life exists elsewhere, time and distance precludes us ever knowing about it. But to answer your question, no, it wouldn't change a thing about my beliefs. God is existence. It's not an accident matter, energy, the laws of nature, etc, are hardwired to produce intelligence. It's predestined. Why would it only exist here if it is the nature of existence to produce intelligence? As near as I can tell the universe is an intelligence creating machine.Would proof of intelligent extra-terrestrial life forms change anyone's views on their respective religion and/or beliefs? Why or why not?
Do you believe in existence? Same thing.
You can't be sure of what you don't know. And what I'm referring to is the "Earth-Centric" view of creation per the Judeo-Christian religions.First off it's not going to happen.
Terrible things? Are you making a moral argument again? Is there anything wrong with doing terrible things in a Darwinian world? Eat or be eaten, right? What's wrong with lying, stealing and cheating as long as you get what you want, right? Are you trying to control people or something with your invisible laws of common decency? Who said you don't have a religion?It doesn't. The next ones won't either. This isn't any sort of diclosure event, it's just another shiney object to distract people from the terrible things they are doing in DC these days.
I'm sure life exists outside of earth and I'm sure we will never find out about it. But why limit it to one universe, right? Why can't there be infinite universes? With each one being an intelligence creating factory? There's nothing special about us. We are God's creatures.You can't be sure of what you don't know.
We live on earth. What centric view should we have? I've never understood why anyone would believe Christianity means the universe was created solely for the earth. Where did they get that idea from? Where did you get that idea from?And what I'm referring to is the "Earth-Centric" view of creation per the Judeo-Christian religions.
You are evading the topic of discussion. The Christian Bible is quite clear about God creating THE Universe, the Earth and all life on Earth. There is no mention of anything creation of life outside of the Earth. Unless there is some new interpretation of the Bible that covers multiverses, and extra-terrestrial life, etc.I'm sure life exists outside of earth and I'm sure we will never find out about it. But why limit it to one universe, right? Why can't there be infinite universes? With each one being an intelligence creating factory? There's nothing special about us. We are God's creatures.
We live on earth. What centric view should we have? I've never understood why anyone would believe Christianity means the universe was created solely for the earth. Where did they get that idea from? Where did you get that idea from?
It doesn't mention Mars but Mars exists. So, no. I'm not reading it like you do. God gave you a brain.You are evading the topic of discussion. The Christian Bible is quite clear about God creating THE Universe, the Earth and all life on Earth. There is no mention of anything creation of life outside of the Earth. Unless there is some new interpretation of the Bible that covers multiverses, and extra-terrestrial life, etc.
Wow. Ok. You don't want to talk about it, I understand.It doesn't mention Mars but Mars exists. So, no. I'm not reading it like you do. God gave you a brain.
YOu ain't right in the head.Terrible things? Are you making a moral argument again? Is there anything wrong with doing terrible things in a Darwinian world? Eat or be eaten, right? What's wrong with lying, stealing and cheating as long as you get what you want, right? Are you trying to control people or something with your invisible laws of common decency? Who said you don't have a religion?
I already did talk about it. Life outside of earth has no bearing on anything. Apparently you think this is supposed to be some gotcha moment. It's not.Wow. Ok. You don't want to talk about it, I understand.
Why? Because you recoil at the logical conclusion of your atheism? It's hilarious when atheists make moral arguments.YOu ain't right in the head.
There are many Christians, especially the older ones who disagree with you. But I can see that the Bible need not be an all encompassing document. So existence of other "human like" intelligent beings does not necessarily toss Christianity on it's head. It would raise a lot of questions about their relationship with God, salvation, afterlife etc.I already did talk about it. Life outside of earth has no bearing on anything. Apparently you think this is supposed to be some gotcha moment. It's not.
I can't control the idiocy of others. Nowhere in the bible does it imply the earth is special.There are many Christians, especially the older ones who disagree with you. But I can see that the Bible need not be an all encompassing document. So existence of other "human like" intelligent beings does not necessarily toss Christianity on it's head.
Why? The Christian belief is that all of the universe is God's creation.It would raise a lot of questions about their relationship with God, salvation, afterlife etc.
You are evading the topic of discussion. The Christian Bible is quite clear about God creating THE Universe, the Earth and all life on Earth. There is no mention of anything creation of life outside of the Earth. Unless there is some new interpretation of the Bible that covers multiverses, and extra-terrestrial life, etc.
Bright object? Like a light? LOLI saw a UFO when I was 14 years old. I was returning home from a baseball game and saw this bright object hovering right near the intersection of my home and then in the blink of an eye it was gone. I will never forget that night.
Again, after reading the comments here.UFO files will not contain proof of biological entities not from Earth. Why? If you have to ask, I submit you're not all there.
Some of the material found in known UFO crashes have been aluminum, not of this planet.Actually there has been plenty of info released:
As of May 2026, the US government has not confirmed any single UFO (UAP) case as alien technology, with recent releases, such as the 162 declassified documents on May 8, 2026, failing to provide "smoking gun" evidence of extraterrestrial life. Most investigated cases are resolved as natural phenomena, foreign surveillance, or sensor glitches. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Key Findings on Specific Cases (As of May 2026):
While recent transparency efforts have released nearly 200 documents, the official stance remains that these are mostly unresolved due to limited data, rather than proof of non-human intelligence
- The "GOFAST" Video (2016): The Pentagon's All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) announced they solved this prominent case, clarifying the object was not anomalous but likely a "trick of the eye" (parallax) flying at a high altitude, not just above the water.
- 2024 UAP Report: A congressional report detailed hundreds of new incidents but found no evidence of extraterrestrial technology.
- Apollo-Era Sightings: Recently declassified documents from NASA, the DOD, and the FBI (released May 8, 2026) include sightings from Apollo astronauts, which, upon review, are often attributed to issues like debris or lens flares.
- The "Gremlin" System Data: A new deployable sensor system designed by the Pentagon is currently capturing real-time data on UAPs to close the data gap on unsolved cases, but it has not linked any UAP to alien origin.
- "Inauthentic" Materials Investigation: The Pentagon's AARO has acknowledged finding evidence that some claims of recovered alien material are based on "fake classified program materials" or intentional disinformation, with reports on this expected to continue in 2026. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]