What If America Had Lost the Revolution?

[Mindful]

It wasn’t about the money.

Taxation, Representation, and the American Revolution

The American Revolution had little to do with tax rates. Rather, the battle cry "No Taxation without Representation" focused on consent

taxfoundation.org

 

[whitehall]

Eventually the Colonies would have won their independence but there would be no Constitution or Bill of Rights or even the system of government we enjoy. There would probably be a P.M. and a convoluted system like Canada has and the Queen's picture would be in the Post Office. Fast forward to the 20th century and the weak Colonial America would not be able to defend England against the Hun or the Nazis and the world would be a different place.

 

[BothWings]

Then Canada would simply be the largest country in Earth...and Hollywood would be fully Canadian, not just half.

 

[miketx]

What, you never heard of Parliament?

Our congress represents us so well.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Though fictional, "The Patriot" has a strong element of truth, in that it gives a sense of just how much courage it took for the colonists to rebel against the awesome might of the British Empire — and how lucky they were to eke out a victory. As the historian David McCullough noted in his book "1776," the Americans suffered terrible losses — about 25,000 casualties, or roughly 1 percent of the colonial population. That would be the equivalent of a modern war claiming more than 3 million U.S. lives. "To those who had been with Washington and who knew what a close call it was at the beginning ... the outcome seemed little short of a miracle," McCullough wrote.

What If America Had Lost the Revolution?

If the colonists hadn't eked out a victory against the mighty British Empire, what would have been their fate? Would leaders like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson have been executed?

science.howstuffworks.com

/----/ If we lost the Revolution, we would all be speaking English now, and not American.
Seriously, since Parliament would have put so many restrictions on the colonies, the Allies most likely would have lost WWI because our economy and manufacturing would have been throttled back. And there would never have been a WWII, We'd all be speaking German.

 

[mudwhistle]

Though fictional, "The Patriot" has a strong element of truth, in that it gives a sense of just how much courage it took for the colonists to rebel against the awesome might of the British Empire — and how lucky they were to eke out a victory. As the historian David McCullough noted in his book "1776," the Americans suffered terrible losses — about 25,000 casualties, or roughly 1 percent of the colonial population. That would be the equivalent of a modern war claiming more than 3 million U.S. lives. "To those who had been with Washington and who knew what a close call it was at the beginning ... the outcome seemed little short of a miracle," McCullough wrote.

What If America Had Lost the Revolution?

If the colonists hadn't eked out a victory against the mighty British Empire, what would have been their fate? Would leaders like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson have been executed?

science.howstuffworks.com

 

[whitehall]

Franklin would have predicted his own death as he was led to the gallows along with Adams and General Washington. Washington D.C. would be named "Georgetown". The Civil War wouldn't have happened because there would be no states and the British system of slave ownership would have continued until the industrial revolution.

 

[Mushroom]

Washington D.C. would be named "Georgetown".

To be more accurate, would "Still be named Georgetown", as that was the name before it was selected as the new Capitol.

Not unlike New Amsterdam and New York. And why we have Istanbul not Constantinople.

 

[Mushroom]

Eventually the Colonies would have won their independence but there would be no Constitution or Bill of Rights or even the system of government we enjoy. There would probably be a P.M. and a convoluted system like Canada has and the Queen's picture would be in the Post Office. Fast forward to the 20th century and the weak Colonial America would not be able to defend England against the Hun or the Nazis and the world would be a different place.

Actually, odds are that if the US had not broken away, there would not have been a WWI or WWII as we know it.

Either they would have given their colonies more autonomy as they years passed (like Canada and Australia), or they would have lost their empire like Spain did.

And if I was to guess, they would have gone the way of Spain. Trying to fight and resist any autonomy in their colonies, and continuing to try to brutally repress any attempts at breaking away. Until just like Spain, in a few decades they would have lost most of their colonies to revolts.

And we all know how critical Spain was in the two World Wars.

 

[whitehall]

Actually, odds are that if the US had not broken away, there would not have been a WWI or WWII as we know it.

Either they would have given their colonies more autonomy as they years passed (like Canada and Australia), or they would have lost their empire like Spain did.

And if I was to guess, they would have gone the way of Spain. Trying to fight and resist any autonomy in their colonies, and continuing to try to brutally repress any attempts at breaking away. Until just like Spain, in a few decades they would have lost most of their colonies to revolts.

And we all know how critical Spain was in the two World Wars.

Americans would have become a lower Canada and Mexico would extend to Kansas.

 

[Mushroom]

Americans would have become a lower Canada and Mexico would extend to Kansas.

You are missing some key things here.

First of all, it becomes questionable how far West the US went. No United States of America, no Louisiana Purchase. So most of the Midwest would likely still be French. Possibly even a breakaway colony after the loss of France in the Napoleonic Wars.

That means with that buffer, no Mexican-American Wars.

Also, add in the fact that during the 1860s, Mexico was run by a British Ally, Emperor Maximilian I of Mexico. No Monroe Doctrine either.