What happens when Conspiracy theorists come to power and can't find any conspiracies?

[rightwinger]

Dan Bongino, the intense and voluble media personality tapped by President Trump to be a top F.B.I. official, appeared on Fox News last month to deliver news that should not have been news: Jeffrey Epstein, he said with glum resignation, had not been murdered after all.

“I’ve seen the whole file,” said Mr. Bongino, sitting next to his boss, Kash Patel, the bureau’s director. “He killed himself.”

Investigations into Mr. Epstein’s 2019 death in a Manhattan prison cell found serious management errors but no evidence of criminality. Yet Mr. Trump, once a friend of the financier accused of sexually abusing dozens of teenage girls, has long suggested Mr. Epstein was silenced by shadowy clients of his sex trafficking ring. In a 2023 episode of his popular podcast, Mr. Bongino, now the bureau’s No. 2 official, implored listeners, “Please do not let that story go.”.....

It has now fallen on Mr. Patel, Mr. Bongino and Attorney General Pam Bondi to make good on the promises explicit and implied — or show how hard they are trying. But they are running what amounts to a conspiracy theory fulfillment center with unstocked shelves, critics say.

“Patel, Bongino and the other leaders are caught in a trap of their own making,” said Russell Muirhead, a politics professor at Dartmouth College who has studied the role of conspiracy theories in American politics.

“The world they helped create, a world in which conspiracy destroys facts, is now the world they have to inhabit,” he added.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/08/us/politics/justice-department-fbi-trump-conspiracy-theories.html

It seems that other conspiracy theorists turn on the former conspiracy theorists who are now in power and accuse them of being part of the conspiracy.

You see, we still live in a nation of laws where you have to prove your case. You can spout any inanity you want, but when it comes to proving it in a court of law, it is another matter.

You would think conspiracy theorists could convince other conspiracy theorists that their conspiracy theories are wrong, but you would be wrong because we live in a loopy time where conspiracy theories reside outside of fact and reality.

To paraphrase the great René Descartes, "I think, therefore, it must be true."

They will just find a new conspiracy

 

[BothWings]

Agencies like the CIA have been well prepared for eventual leaders or administrations who try to reveal their secrets or probe them. Many of their most bizarre skeletons will always remain in the closet or be destroyed before they are revealed. They have extremely well articulated backup plans which don't just guard against being discovered, they also outline protocols for how to deal with things IF they are discovered. They are realists.

Take for example the CIA project known as MKUltra where they used unknowing Americans as guinea pigs for mind control experiments involving hypnosis and hallucinogenic drugs. It's a documented declassified FACT. They were eventually confronted by other government agencies about it and they subsequently declassified it somewhat, and claimed that MKUltra would be cancelled. I don't believe that for one second. I believe they just changed the name and improved the stealth of their operations. It is probably still going on today and is the truth behind many killings and assassinations, including many mass shootings. In the meantime the public has been taught to think, "Oh, no... can't be... They got caught and haven't done it since 1973!" (Yeah, right!)

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Biden is sharp as a tack

Outside if Jean-Pierre's comment, no one parrots and props this shit up like magaturds.

 

[DonGlock26]

What happens when Conspiracy theorists come to power and can't find any conspiracies?

They pay for the creation of a fake "Russian dossier" on their political opponent?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They pay for the creation of a fake "Russian dossier" on their political opponent?

Who quickly bought and used it.

 

[DonGlock26]

Who quickly bought and used it.

The Hillary Clinton Democrat Party campaign.

DNC, Clinton campaign agree to Steele dossier funding fine

Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee have agreed to pay $113,000 to settle a Federal Election Commission investigation.

apnews.com

 

[candycorn]

2020 election was stolen.

Fauci was paid to lie about gain-of-function research for Covid.

The covid jab is dangerous and kills people.

Ashli was illegally killed by an armed negro. (nice 5 million dollar settlement on this one)

I could go on.

Except none of that has been proven shit brains.

Please tell us again how you were allegedly “gunned down” though...that’s always hilarious.

 

[candycorn]

Nope

the felon who was shot by law enforcement?

nope


But keep trying

Maybe one of your stupid-ass conspiracy theories will be right one of these days

well, she wasn’t a felon at the time...she was part of a riot and certainly desereved what she got.

I was just correcting the record.

 

[Oddball]

He didn`t have people sipping Lysol and Clorox.

Neither did Trump, lying dickweed.

 

[Oddball]

Dan Bongino, the intense and voluble media personality tapped by President Trump to be a top F.B.I. official, appeared on Fox News last month to deliver news that should not have been news: Jeffrey Epstein, he said with glum resignation, had not been murdered after all.

“I’ve seen the whole file,” said Mr. Bongino, sitting next to his boss, Kash Patel, the bureau’s director. “He killed himself.”

Investigations into Mr. Epstein’s 2019 death in a Manhattan prison cell found serious management errors but no evidence of criminality. Yet Mr. Trump, once a friend of the financier accused of sexually abusing dozens of teenage girls, has long suggested Mr. Epstein was silenced by shadowy clients of his sex trafficking ring. In a 2023 episode of his popular podcast, Mr. Bongino, now the bureau’s No. 2 official, implored listeners, “Please do not let that story go.”.....

It has now fallen on Mr. Patel, Mr. Bongino and Attorney General Pam Bondi to make good on the promises explicit and implied — or show how hard they are trying. But they are running what amounts to a conspiracy theory fulfillment center with unstocked shelves, critics say.

“Patel, Bongino and the other leaders are caught in a trap of their own making,” said Russell Muirhead, a politics professor at Dartmouth College who has studied the role of conspiracy theories in American politics.

“The world they helped create, a world in which conspiracy destroys facts, is now the world they have to inhabit,” he added.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/08/us/politics/justice-department-fbi-trump-conspiracy-theories.html

It seems that other conspiracy theorists turn on the former conspiracy theorists who are now in power and accuse them of being part of the conspiracy.

You see, we still live in a nation of laws where you have to prove your case. You can spout any inanity you want, but when it comes to proving it in a court of law, it is another matter.

You would think conspiracy theorists could convince other conspiracy theorists that their conspiracy theories are wrong, but you would be wrong because we live in a loopy time where conspiracy theories reside outside of fact and reality.

To paraphrase the great René Descartes, "I think, therefore, it must be true."

After over four years of screeching RUSSIA!, you deranged fuckwits have the stones to accuse others of tin foil hattery?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The pubs bought it from the dems.

 

[DonGlock26]

The pubs bought it from the dems.

What are you babbling about now?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Except none of that has been proven shit brains.

Please tell us again how you were allegedly “gunned down” though...that’s always hilarious.

You mean when I was shot 6 times in an armed robbery? I'm glad you find that funny, fuckface. Why don't you come and try to gun me down, shitfuck.

There is no "allegedly" about it, you ******* shithead.

 

[August West]

Neither did Trump, lying dickweed.

Take your gay fantasies elsewhere. We don`t care about your Private Life or whatever his name is.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“The world they helped create, a world in which conspiracy destroys facts, is now the world they have to inhabit,” he added.

The insanity that is Trump and his supporters.

The problem is that in order for conspiracy theories to be useful as political weapons, they must remain unproven.

Trump Cult members have no use for facts or the truth.

 

[luiza]

What happens when Conspiracy theorists come to power and can't find any conspiracies?​

As moronically stupid as asking :-

Where next when you reach Infinity .

 

[rightwinger]

The insanity that is Trump and his supporters.

The problem is that in order for conspiracy theories to be useful as political weapons, they must remain unproven.

Trump Cult members have no use for facts or the truth.

The neat part is you can never disprove a conspiracy theory

Just call any contrary evidence fake, say the lack of evidence is proof of a coverup.

 

[Clipper]

Yes, but in fairness he didn't know what Lysol and Clorox was in his mental state.

Trump is a conman who hired a gang of bottom feeding hacks such as Bondi, Patel, Bongino, Noem, Miller etc. etc & you MAGA Bozos can't figure out why it's a never ending shitshow such as this Epstein deal. This is what happens when self serving jackasses such as the above have to answer for the bullshit they've been barfing to MAGA bedwetters on social media, Fox & podcasts for years while fattening their bank accounts.

Oops, gotta go now, time to stock up on more popcorn!

 

[badbob85037]

Dan Bongino, the intense and voluble media personality tapped by President Trump to be a top F.B.I. official, appeared on Fox News last month to deliver news that should not have been news: Jeffrey Epstein, he said with glum resignation, had not been murdered after all.

“I’ve seen the whole file,” said Mr. Bongino, sitting next to his boss, Kash Patel, the bureau’s director. “He killed himself.”

Investigations into Mr. Epstein’s 2019 death in a Manhattan prison cell found serious management errors but no evidence of criminality. Yet Mr. Trump, once a friend of the financier accused of sexually abusing dozens of teenage girls, has long suggested Mr. Epstein was silenced by shadowy clients of his sex trafficking ring. In a 2023 episode of his popular podcast, Mr. Bongino, now the bureau’s No. 2 official, implored listeners, “Please do not let that story go.”.....

It has now fallen on Mr. Patel, Mr. Bongino and Attorney General Pam Bondi to make good on the promises explicit and implied — or show how hard they are trying. But they are running what amounts to a conspiracy theory fulfillment center with unstocked shelves, critics say.

“Patel, Bongino and the other leaders are caught in a trap of their own making,” said Russell Muirhead, a politics professor at Dartmouth College who has studied the role of conspiracy theories in American politics.

“The world they helped create, a world in which conspiracy destroys facts, is now the world they have to inhabit,” he added.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/08/us/politics/justice-department-fbi-trump-conspiracy-theories.html

It seems that other conspiracy theorists turn on the former conspiracy theorists who are now in power and accuse them of being part of the conspiracy.

You see, we still live in a nation of laws where you have to prove your case. You can spout any inanity you want, but when it comes to proving it in a court of law, it is another matter.

You would think conspiracy theorists could convince other conspiracy theorists that their conspiracy theories are wrong, but you would be wrong because we live in a loopy time where conspiracy theories reside outside of fact and reality.

To paraphrase the great René Descartes, "I think, therefore, it must be true."

They move to San Francisco and run for congress.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Ignoring the reality of the MAGA world, BadBob chirps, "You see, we still live in a nation of laws where you have to prove your case. You can spout any inanity you want, but when it comes to proving it in a court of law, it is another matter." MAGA tries to do that all the time.