Can the FBI and Justice Department be trusted? Resignation time? and a suggestion to you FOX news watchers as well

[SeaMajor7]

The OP is nothing but SWAMP SWAMP SWAMP
SWAMP MUSIC.
Drowning in the bog with deep sea dying sounds.
With the chaos that they wrought, they lash out enraged now that they are EXPOSED.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa.

 

[berg80]

The implicit trust the courts had that the DoJ was pursuing justice, not trump's vindictive agenda, is GONE.

12. “The ‘administrative record’ submitted by the government is a sham. It does not facilitate judicial review: It frustrates it;” judge calls out government for “lie” in termination letters, and for DOJ preventing testimony because “afraid … would reveal the truth”​

Judge William Alsup (Clinton appointee) American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO v. United States Office of Personnel Management, 3:25-cv-01780 (N.D. Cal.)

This case involves the government’s efforts to significantly reduce the federal workforce’s probationary employees via termination letters that criticized workers’ “performance.”

At a Mar. 13 hearing in which Judge Alsup issued an injunction from the bench, the court criticized the administration, calling the letters a “gimmick” and saying, “It is sad – a sad day – when our government would fire some good employee and say it was based on performance when they know good and well that’s a lie. … That should not have been done in our country. It was a sham in order to try to avoid statutory requirements.” In a subsequent memorandum opinion, the court elaborated that the OPM’s template termination letter claiming performance problems “was an obvious pretext intended to obstruct appeal and avoid statutory and regulatory reduction-in-force procedures (for example, the honoring of veteran preferences in the order of retention).”

At the Mar. 13 hearing, responding to the government’s apparent gamesmanship—namely, submitting OPM Acting Director Charles Ezell’s sworn declaration that asserted OPM did not direct the firings, then withdrawing it and refusing to produce him for court-ordered cross-examination—Judge Alsup admonished DOJ, saying, “You can’t just say, ‘Here’s the declaration. You have to accept it without question’ whenever there is a question.” He continued:

“You will not bring the people in here to be cross-examined. You’re afraid to do so because you know cross-examination would reveal the truth. … This is the U.S. District Court. Whenever you submit declarations, those people should be submitted to cross-examination, just like the plaintiffs’ side should be. … [T]hen we get at the truth of whether that’s what — your story is actually true. I tend to doubt it. I tend to doubt that you’re telling me the truth whenever we hear all the evidence eventually. … And you withdrew his declaration rather than do that? Come on. That’s a sham. Go ahead. I’m — it upsets me. I want you to know that. I’ve been practicing or serving in this court for over 50 years, and I know how we get at the truth. And you’re not helping me get at the truth. You’re giving me press releases, sham documents. All right. I’m getting mad at you and I shouldn’t. You’re trying to do your best, and I apologize.” (emphasis added).

On Sept. 12, the district court granted summary judgment to the plaintiffs. The court wrote:

“The ‘administrative record’ submitted by the government is a sham. It does not facilitate judicial review: It frustrates it. …

The ‘quote’ proffered by government counsel James D. Todd Jr. is a fabrication. … The result: A statement concerning OPM authored and approved exemption categories becomes, by brackets, ellipses, and government counsel’s chicanery, a shot through the heart of plaintiffs’ case. Counsel’s ersatz evidence fails to persuade.” (emphasis added).

The “Presumption of Regularity” in Trump Administration Litigation

Comprehensive study of court cases involving Trump administration and the basis for courts no longer giving a "presumption of regularity."

www.justsecurity.org

 

[Seymour Flops]

FBI and Justice Department struggle to beat back conspiracies their leaders once fanned​

Kash Patel promoted a fictitious lists of pedophiles, and we are aware of Pam's comments regarding the list. Additionally, we should not overlook Bongino, who has previously advocated unverified Epstein theories before his tenure at the bureau, and he shared it on his personal account. At this juncture, I am questioning whether a resignation is essential to restore confidence in the United States.

What are your thoughts.

First, I congratulate you on an extremely productive day on the board. You may have broken the record for most posts in a 24 hour period - in your first 24 hours as a poster on this forum. Now your second day starts, we'll see if you are as prolific still.

We will soon see the names of many Democrats who had some involvement with Epstein. The second most senior Democrat elected official, Hakeem Jeffries, has been added to that list, with more to come no doubt.

As far as Republicans, if any, who have had dealings with Epstein, Patel may or may not release their names. The Democrat's bill gives discretion to the FBI to redact any names of people under investigation.

Patel, a highly moral man, would be especially offended by members of his own party consorting with a pimp. So, he would be more likely to investigate Republicans, thinking it would be nothing new for Democrats, the Party of Perversion Inclusion.

I'm sure you will be first to condemn the Democrats like Jeffries who are outed.

 

[berg80]

As far as Republicans, if any, who have had dealings with Epstein

You may have forgotten one.

 

[Bitterhook]

I will repeat myself, I have no interest in your opinions regarding anything apart from the subject of this thread.

Which aspect is unclear to you?

If you are not interested, when I have made myself abundantly clear, then stop asking. Otherwise, ask me something in regard to the OP, other than what you aren't interested in.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You may have forgotten one.

What Repubs had dealings with Epstein?

 

[BackAgain]

hayseeds

You’re still just an assclown, any way we slice it.

 

[Roshambo]

If you are not interested, when I have made myself abundantly clear, then stop asking. Otherwise, ask me something in regard to the OP, other than what you aren't interested in.

Once again, there you are. I am not interested in your views on any matter other than the topic of this discussion.

 

[Bitterhook]

Once again, there you are. I am not interested in your views on any matter other than the topic of this discussion.

I will encourage you that if you aren't lying, and you are interested in any views I may have in regard to anything specific in your OP, then ask me a direct question that I have not already answered.

 

[Roshambo]

I will encourage you that if you aren't lying, and you are interested in any views I may have in regard to anything specific in your OP, then ask me a direct question that I have not already answered.

 

[Bitterhook]

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Uh yeah, and that's a highly accurate representation of what I have continually expressed this stupid thread was intended to do. Are you proud of yourself, is that the best you have to offer, do you want a cookie, because I knew damn well you couldn't do any better.

 

[Concerned American]

I wonder if this latest transparent assclown is a sock of fake “Conservative from Georgia?”

Yep, I'm inclined to agree--especially after he said he voted for Trump. LOL

 

[Crepitus]

On the plus side, admittedly compromised, but decidedly incompetent. They would be more dangerous to the country in the long run, if basic competency in the law, was not a shortcoming.

This is true. They are bad, but they suck at it.

 

[Crepitus]

View attachment 1185910TRANSLATION: These key agencies have fallen out of democrat party control.



View attachment 1185911TRANSLATION: All the GOOD people we could trust who were dyed in the wool true blue leftist loyalists are gone. We need to start from scratch.

Your translator is as fucked up as the current DOJ.

 

[berg80]

It is being reported that Dan Bongino is discussing leaving the FBI. Don't let the door hit you.....

 

[Seymour Flops]

It is being reported that Dan Bongino is discussing leaving the FBI. Don't let the door hit you.....

Good.

Trump needs someone who is as ruthless going after Democrats as the rogue FBI was in going after Trump.