What Happened to Church?

[Taz]

Well, I'm glad that churches have a variety of worship styles. They do, however, need to be consistent and strong in spreading the entire Gospel message. It's a life changing message, not just a feel good thing.

If you want to lose weight, you have to change eating and exercise patterns and it makes you feel miserable for a while, but then you start realizing the benefits and you actually feel better.

When you become a Christian, God expects your life patterns to change, and that can be hard. But when you do, you start realizing the benefits and you would never go back.

So good people don't need god? Thanks for clearing that up.

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

So it's not ok for me to ask questions precisely because I haven't gone to church since I was about 7 years old?

You're not asking questions. You're making declarations disguised as questions. REAL questions involve the desire to find an answer.

I started out asking what you people give in the plate in today's church and nobody would answer. How come? I'm just curious. Something wrong with that?

 

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You’re welcome any time

Mormons and Muslims are the 2 biggest bunches of losers.

These must be examples of you being such a good person.

Actually if you knew me, you'd find a million examples of me being generous and kind. Calling things out as they are is just reality. Too bad for you. Now go hug a Muslim and hope he doesn't blow up.

I've seen your racist posts, Taz. Don't piss on me and tell me it is raining.

Being realistic isn't racist. Now you know.

I like the fact that you run away from your beliefs. That means you know what you believe is fucked up.

 

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The solid answer to what you're discussing is "Stop hijacking the thread to get attention, moron".

And no, nobody can "ask questions in my thread" that are about derailing it. You want to develop a discussion about how you think your mental disorder makes you smart, go start your own thread.

Just ignore me and I'll discuss things related to the OP with others. Don't be so grumpy. If you don't want anyone to challenge what you say, ignore it. Or I could send you a hankie?

Oh, no. You came in here, capering around in your jester costume, demanding that everything and everyone focus on you, despite being told repeatedly to quit. I think you're very close to getting what you mistakenly and vainly claim to want.

Meanwhile, you will NOT continue to discuss your attempts to hijack the thread, nor am I under any obligation to let you do so. I suggest you re-read the forum rules about off-topic posts. This thread is not now, never has been, and never will be about your hatred of religion.

I don't hate religion , I just find them silly because they have no proof of god.

The proof is all around you. You just won't accept it because you are not ready to accept it. But the ultimate proof can only be found by entering into a relationship with God. Something you are unwilling to do. God is not a mystery to be solved, God is a relationship to be entered into. Only then will you discover his love for you and the power to transform yourself.

You said you don't understand god. So you don't know if you have a relationship with it or not. C'mon, man up.

That isn’t exactly what I said. Try again.

 

[Taz]

Mormons and Muslims are the 2 biggest bunches of losers.

These must be examples of you being such a good person.

Actually if you knew me, you'd find a million examples of me being generous and kind. Calling things out as they are is just reality. Too bad for you. Now go hug a Muslim and hope he doesn't blow up.

I've seen your racist posts, Taz. Don't piss on me and tell me it is raining.

Being realistic isn't racist. Now you know.

I like the fact that you run away from your beliefs. That means you know what you believe is fucked up.

You need me to be like that in your mind, otherwise, you'll go completely over the edge. Hope you feel better soon.

 

[Taz]

Just ignore me and I'll discuss things related to the OP with others. Don't be so grumpy. If you don't want anyone to challenge what you say, ignore it. Or I could send you a hankie?

Oh, no. You came in here, capering around in your jester costume, demanding that everything and everyone focus on you, despite being told repeatedly to quit. I think you're very close to getting what you mistakenly and vainly claim to want.

Meanwhile, you will NOT continue to discuss your attempts to hijack the thread, nor am I under any obligation to let you do so. I suggest you re-read the forum rules about off-topic posts. This thread is not now, never has been, and never will be about your hatred of religion.

I don't hate religion , I just find them silly because they have no proof of god.

The proof is all around you. You just won't accept it because you are not ready to accept it. But the ultimate proof can only be found by entering into a relationship with God. Something you are unwilling to do. God is not a mystery to be solved, God is a relationship to be entered into. Only then will you discover his love for you and the power to transform yourself.

You said you don't understand god. So you don't know if you have a relationship with it or not. C'mon, man up.

That isn’t exactly what I said. Try again.

Can't even man up, princess.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Well, I'm glad that churches have a variety of worship styles. They do, however, need to be consistent and strong in spreading the entire Gospel message. It's a life changing message, not just a feel good thing.

If you want to lose weight, you have to change eating and exercise patterns and it makes you feel miserable for a while, but then you start realizing the benefits and you actually feel better.

When you become a Christian, God expects your life patterns to change, and that can be hard. But when you do, you start realizing the benefits and you would never go back.

So good people don't need god? Thanks for clearing that up.

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

Taz is working something out in his/her own life, something that caused this pathological need to not only hate God and Christians, but to act it out as visibly as possible.

It is time for those who love God to put their faith where their mouths are, stop giving Taz the reaction he/she craves of (quite understandable) disgust and disdain, and simply pray that God give him/her the revelation he/she is capering around, demanding.

And yes, I am 100% serious. I have been tasked with praying for Taz every day, whenever I have any free time, and anyone else who believes in the power of prayer is welcome to join me.

ALRIGHT! Pray for me! Let's get this thing going! Can't wait to see what happens!

Dude, you're behind the curve. We've been praying for you for most of a week now.

Just remember: you asked for it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

So it's not ok for me to ask questions precisely because I haven't gone to church since I was about 7 years old?

Well for my part--I know this wasn't directed at me--it's okay to ask questions even if you don't go to church. Sometimes that's the best way. Some people from our church meet in local gathering places around town, even PUBS (gasp!) to meet up with people to hang out and answer questions they have. All hard questions allowed.

I remember one time at our church, this one couple got up to say they love to go out on the weekend and play pool with friends, and sometimes they talk about hard stuff and God then. Husband has longer hair and a ponytail. These new visitors got up and walked out right then. I kinda thought, well bye then. That wasn't very nice I guess....but they would have been kinda judgey for my church.

FWIW we are not one of these non-denominational fog machine churches either. At all. Very Biblical. We just realize that we are like the people in the Bible. Screw ups. Church is for screw ups. Like us. I'm not just saying that.

So how did Noah get kangaroos from Australia and back again?

Just a quick aside. She said she is "Very Biblical". I had to test her. Won't take long.

Just a quick response: you will stay on-topic, or you will go start your own thread.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Well, I'm glad that churches have a variety of worship styles. They do, however, need to be consistent and strong in spreading the entire Gospel message. It's a life changing message, not just a feel good thing.

If you want to lose weight, you have to change eating and exercise patterns and it makes you feel miserable for a while, but then you start realizing the benefits and you actually feel better.

When you become a Christian, God expects your life patterns to change, and that can be hard. But when you do, you start realizing the benefits and you would never go back.

So good people don't need god? Thanks for clearing that up.

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

So it's not ok for me to ask questions precisely because I haven't gone to church since I was about 7 years old?

You're not asking questions. You're making declarations disguised as questions. REAL questions involve the desire to find an answer.

I started out asking what you people give in the plate in today's church and nobody would answer. How come? I'm just curious. Something wrong with that?

Did you somehow miss the multiple times that you were told it's nosy, none of your business, off-topic, and shockingly crass and ill-mannered?

I'm fairly certain you were raised around human beings at least part of your life, so I fail to see how you could be so ignorant of basic social courtesies.

 

[Taz]

Well, I'm glad that churches have a variety of worship styles. They do, however, need to be consistent and strong in spreading the entire Gospel message. It's a life changing message, not just a feel good thing.

If you want to lose weight, you have to change eating and exercise patterns and it makes you feel miserable for a while, but then you start realizing the benefits and you actually feel better.

When you become a Christian, God expects your life patterns to change, and that can be hard. But when you do, you start realizing the benefits and you would never go back.

So good people don't need god? Thanks for clearing that up.

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

Taz is working something out in his/her own life, something that caused this pathological need to not only hate God and Christians, but to act it out as visibly as possible.

It is time for those who love God to put their faith where their mouths are, stop giving Taz the reaction he/she craves of (quite understandable) disgust and disdain, and simply pray that God give him/her the revelation he/she is capering around, demanding.

And yes, I am 100% serious. I have been tasked with praying for Taz every day, whenever I have any free time, and anyone else who believes in the power of prayer is welcome to join me.

ALRIGHT! Pray for me! Let's get this thing going! Can't wait to see what happens!

Dude, you're behind the curve. We've been praying for you for most of a week now.

Just remember: you asked for it.

So you're praying for bad shit to happen to me?

 

[Taz]

So it's not ok for me to ask questions precisely because I haven't gone to church since I was about 7 years old?

Well for my part--I know this wasn't directed at me--it's okay to ask questions even if you don't go to church. Sometimes that's the best way. Some people from our church meet in local gathering places around town, even PUBS (gasp!) to meet up with people to hang out and answer questions they have. All hard questions allowed.

I remember one time at our church, this one couple got up to say they love to go out on the weekend and play pool with friends, and sometimes they talk about hard stuff and God then. Husband has longer hair and a ponytail. These new visitors got up and walked out right then. I kinda thought, well bye then. That wasn't very nice I guess....but they would have been kinda judgey for my church.

FWIW we are not one of these non-denominational fog machine churches either. At all. Very Biblical. We just realize that we are like the people in the Bible. Screw ups. Church is for screw ups. Like us. I'm not just saying that.

So how did Noah get kangaroos from Australia and back again?

Just a quick aside. She said she is "Very Biblical". I had to test her. Won't take long.

Just a quick response: you will stay on-topic, or you will go start your own thread.

Zeig Heil!

 

[Taz]

So good people don't need god? Thanks for clearing that up.

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

So it's not ok for me to ask questions precisely because I haven't gone to church since I was about 7 years old?

You're not asking questions. You're making declarations disguised as questions. REAL questions involve the desire to find an answer.

I started out asking what you people give in the plate in today's church and nobody would answer. How come? I'm just curious. Something wrong with that?

Did you somehow miss the multiple times that you were told it's nosy, none of your business, off-topic, and shockingly crass and ill-mannered?

I'm fairly certain you were raised around human beings at least part of your life, so I fail to see how you could be so ignorant of basic social courtesies.

I was thinking of going to church and I just wanted to know what's appropriate these days to drop in the plate? How about a couple of pork chops?

 

[hadit]

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

So it's not ok for me to ask questions precisely because I haven't gone to church since I was about 7 years old?

Well for my part--I know this wasn't directed at me--it's okay to ask questions even if you don't go to church. Sometimes that's the best way. Some people from our church meet in local gathering places around town, even PUBS (gasp!) to meet up with people to hang out and answer questions they have. All hard questions allowed.

I remember one time at our church, this one couple got up to say they love to go out on the weekend and play pool with friends, and sometimes they talk about hard stuff and God then. Husband has longer hair and a ponytail. These new visitors got up and walked out right then. I kinda thought, well bye then. That wasn't very nice I guess....but they would have been kinda judgey for my church.

FWIW we are not one of these non-denominational fog machine churches either. At all. Very Biblical. We just realize that we are like the people in the Bible. Screw ups. Church is for screw ups. Like us. I'm not just saying that.

So how did Noah get kangaroos from Australia and back again?

See what I mean? Don't throw your pearls.

She said "Very Biblical" and "All hard questions allowed." Unlike you, she's not a weenie.

Then start your own thread and ask your own questions.

 

[hadit]

Well, I'm glad that churches have a variety of worship styles. They do, however, need to be consistent and strong in spreading the entire Gospel message. It's a life changing message, not just a feel good thing.

If you want to lose weight, you have to change eating and exercise patterns and it makes you feel miserable for a while, but then you start realizing the benefits and you actually feel better.

When you become a Christian, God expects your life patterns to change, and that can be hard. But when you do, you start realizing the benefits and you would never go back.

So good people don't need god? Thanks for clearing that up.

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

So it's not ok for me to ask questions precisely because I haven't gone to church since I was about 7 years old?

You're not asking questions. You're making declarations disguised as questions. REAL questions involve the desire to find an answer.

I started out asking what you people give in the plate in today's church and nobody would answer. How come? I'm just curious. Something wrong with that?

I told you once. Go back through the thread. You'll find it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So good people don't need god? Thanks for clearing that up.

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

Taz is working something out in his/her own life, something that caused this pathological need to not only hate God and Christians, but to act it out as visibly as possible.

It is time for those who love God to put their faith where their mouths are, stop giving Taz the reaction he/she craves of (quite understandable) disgust and disdain, and simply pray that God give him/her the revelation he/she is capering around, demanding.

And yes, I am 100% serious. I have been tasked with praying for Taz every day, whenever I have any free time, and anyone else who believes in the power of prayer is welcome to join me.

ALRIGHT! Pray for me! Let's get this thing going! Can't wait to see what happens!

Dude, you're behind the curve. We've been praying for you for most of a week now.

Just remember: you asked for it.

So you're praying for bad shit to happen to me?

No, of course not. Not only wouldn't I endanger my own soul like that, but God wouldn't grant a prayer like that, anyway.

You're constantly chattering on about wanting "proof of God". I'm praying that He gives you what you asked for. However, proof of God is not what you think it is.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Well for my part--I know this wasn't directed at me--it's okay to ask questions even if you don't go to church. Sometimes that's the best way. Some people from our church meet in local gathering places around town, even PUBS (gasp!) to meet up with people to hang out and answer questions they have. All hard questions allowed.

I remember one time at our church, this one couple got up to say they love to go out on the weekend and play pool with friends, and sometimes they talk about hard stuff and God then. Husband has longer hair and a ponytail. These new visitors got up and walked out right then. I kinda thought, well bye then. That wasn't very nice I guess....but they would have been kinda judgey for my church.

FWIW we are not one of these non-denominational fog machine churches either. At all. Very Biblical. We just realize that we are like the people in the Bible. Screw ups. Church is for screw ups. Like us. I'm not just saying that.

So how did Noah get kangaroos from Australia and back again?

Just a quick aside. She said she is "Very Biblical". I had to test her. Won't take long.

Just a quick response: you will stay on-topic, or you will go start your own thread.

Zeig Heil!

It says more about you than it does about me that you consider being expected to observe basic social etiquette to be "Hitleresque".

 

[hadit]

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

Taz is working something out in his/her own life, something that caused this pathological need to not only hate God and Christians, but to act it out as visibly as possible.

It is time for those who love God to put their faith where their mouths are, stop giving Taz the reaction he/she craves of (quite understandable) disgust and disdain, and simply pray that God give him/her the revelation he/she is capering around, demanding.

And yes, I am 100% serious. I have been tasked with praying for Taz every day, whenever I have any free time, and anyone else who believes in the power of prayer is welcome to join me.

ALRIGHT! Pray for me! Let's get this thing going! Can't wait to see what happens!

Dude, you're behind the curve. We've been praying for you for most of a week now.

Just remember: you asked for it.

So you're praying for bad shit to happen to me?

No, of course not. Not only wouldn't I endanger my own soul like that, but God wouldn't grant a prayer like that, anyway.

You're constantly chattering on about wanting "proof of God". I'm praying that He gives you what you asked for. However, proof of God is not what you think it is.

Hebrews 10:31.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You have no idea what's going on in the church today, yet you think you feel qualified to post on this thread. Interesting.

So it's not ok for me to ask questions precisely because I haven't gone to church since I was about 7 years old?

You're not asking questions. You're making declarations disguised as questions. REAL questions involve the desire to find an answer.

I started out asking what you people give in the plate in today's church and nobody would answer. How come? I'm just curious. Something wrong with that?

Did you somehow miss the multiple times that you were told it's nosy, none of your business, off-topic, and shockingly crass and ill-mannered?

I'm fairly certain you were raised around human beings at least part of your life, so I fail to see how you could be so ignorant of basic social courtesies.

I was thinking of going to church and I just wanted to know what's appropriate these days to drop in the plate? How about a couple of pork chops?

 

[koshergrl]

So have you found a church yet??

 

[koshergrl]

I'm kind of bummed...our pastor is retiring.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Taz is working something out in his/her own life, something that caused this pathological need to not only hate God and Christians, but to act it out as visibly as possible.

It is time for those who love God to put their faith where their mouths are, stop giving Taz the reaction he/she craves of (quite understandable) disgust and disdain, and simply pray that God give him/her the revelation he/she is capering around, demanding.

And yes, I am 100% serious. I have been tasked with praying for Taz every day, whenever I have any free time, and anyone else who believes in the power of prayer is welcome to join me.

ALRIGHT! Pray for me! Let's get this thing going! Can't wait to see what happens!

Dude, you're behind the curve. We've been praying for you for most of a week now.

Just remember: you asked for it.

So you're praying for bad shit to happen to me?

No, of course not. Not only wouldn't I endanger my own soul like that, but God wouldn't grant a prayer like that, anyway.

You're constantly chattering on about wanting "proof of God". I'm praying that He gives you what you asked for. However, proof of God is not what you think it is.

Hebrews 10:31.

'Tis true. People like Taz always think evidence of God is going to be like a Hollywood summer blockbuster, possibly by Michael Bay.

I think if it were me that God was focusing on, particularly to the extent of putting a burden on the heart of someone like me (who is not famous for perception or compassion toward others), I'd be more than a bit nervous.