What governs us?

[Woodznutz]

The Founders structured a nation called the United States of America on the concept that a free people, guided and restrained by shared basic concepts of Christian morality, would make mistakes, get things wrong, would need to regroup and try again at times. But ultimately they would establish social contract in a way that provided reasonable laws and responsibilities as necessary to secure their unalienable rights. Otherwise each citizen would enjoy liberty, choices, options, opportunity to pursue the American dream as best they could.

In other words, they would be under no dictator, monarch, authoritarian pope, totalitarian oligarchy, or any other such authority. A central government would impose such laws/rules/regulation as absolutely necessary in order for the various states to function as one nation and not do violence to one another. Otherwise it was given no authority to do anything that the private sector could do.

The people would govern themselves.

And we have governed ourselves into sickness, penury, and despair.

 

[Woodznutz]

Ultimately, to survive and prosper. And yes, human nature is a mix of good and evil.

We prosper by doing good. Evil doing reduces our survival chances.

 

[Meathead]

We prosper by doing good. Evil doing reduces our survival chances.

Simplistic and naive. The world is not as black as you wish it to be.

 

[Foxfyre]

And we have governed ourselves into sickness, penury, and despair.

You may have governed yourself into that re the choices you have made. Most of us do not feel that way at all.

 

[Woodznutz]

Simplistic and naive. The world is not as black as you wish it to be.

I wish for people to be better people.

 

[1srelluc]

You're not ruled by laws. You're ruled by people the laws don't apply to.

 

[shockedcanadian]

The world all influences the U.S, your elections and your policies.

If and when the U.S becomes insolvent all of your friends will disappear overnight.

Geo-politics is cruel and nations only like you when you're winning and on top.

 

[Woodznutz]

You may have governed yourself into that re the choices you have made. Most of us do not feel that way at all.

It only takes 20 percent casualties for a military unit to cease to be an effective fighting force. More than 20 percent of Americans are ill, broke, and in despair and are dragging us all down the shithole.

 

[Dorian Mode]

We can cut into that power if we choose to.

I'm not so sure. The politicians aren't going to want to give up their gravy train. It it can be done, it won't be easy. At all.

 

[MayorQuimby]

I am a conservative so I appreciate it when people recognize any improper intrusion of our personal rights.

I think people need to go beyond just "recognizing" improper intrusion of their rights. In other words, they need to do something about it. Very often, the entity doing the intruding is the government, so any kind of resistance gets labelled as "domestic terrorism"; they call it anti-government something or other, you know what I mean.

I'm not so sure. The politicians aren't going to want to give up their gravy train. It it can be done, it won't be easy. At all.

Of course they aren't. Just like how a pack of hyenas are not gonna want to voluntarily give up their carcass of a gazelle. They would literally need to be made to do so, because these politicians aren't really humans, they are more like animals than humans. They don't respond to anything other than force. Of course, they are also very intelligent, and they tell the masses that this is "violence". Most people are too stupid to know the difference between force and violence.

 

[Woodznutz]

I'm not so sure. The politicians aren't going to want to give up their gravy train. It it can be done, it won't be easy. At all.

Political power depends on a disengaged public. Not disengaged from politics, but disengaged from living a better life regarding health, finances, family, and community.

 

[Foxfyre]

It only takes 20 percent casualties for a military unit to cease to be an effective fighting force. More than 20 percent of Americans are ill, broke, and in despair and are dragging us all down the shithole.

Again I don't see it that way. It is true that a corrupt waaaaay overreaching government has made far too many Americans dependent on that government. But the Founders knew we would make mistakes but that a free people would be able to correct those mistakes and get it right. We have a current administration who is doing its best to correct the overreach in government and, if it succeeds, the people are resourceful enough to right the ship. I am more and more confident there are enough freedom loving people left to do that.

I am hopeful.

 

[there4eyeM]

At every level, grotesque materialism reigns.

 

[Moonglow]

Q. Are we governed by Federal, State, and local laws?
Q. Are we governed by what we have been taught?
Q. Are we governed by a sense of morality?
Q. Are we governed by our expectations, or the expectations of others?
A. Yes, to some extent, all of the above.

But what governs or influences most of our actions and behaviors is our basic human nature, which is largely ungovernable by outside influences or forces. In fact, we are generally in rebellion against any other form of governance.

Then do not take MiroLAX

 

[Moonglow]

Again I don't see it that way. It is true that a corrupt waaaaay overreaching government has made far too many Americans dependent on that government. But the Founders knew we would make mistakes but that a free people would be able to correct those mistakes and get it right. We have a current administration who is doing its best to correct the overreach in government and, if it succeeds, the people are resourceful enough to right the ship. I am more and more confident there are enough freedom loving people left to do that.

I am hopeful.

If this is what you call a reduction in overreach, you musta loved the Civil War.

 

[Moonglow]

At every level, grotesque materialism reigns.

The merchants and the traders have come; their profits are pre-ordained.-Sri Guru Granth Sahib

 

[Woodznutz]

Again I don't see it that way. It is true that a corrupt waaaaay overreaching government has made far too many Americans dependent on that government. But the Founders knew we would make mistakes but that a free people would be able to correct those mistakes and get it right. We have a current administration who is doing its best to correct the overreach in government and, if it succeeds, the people are resourceful enough to right the ship. I am more and more confident there are enough freedom loving people left to do that.

I am hopeful.

I'm skeptical.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

LIFE itself governs us.
It tells us when we've done something stupid so we learn.
It tells us when we've done something ignorant so we learn.
We get hurt when we attempt something we shouldn't, and we learn.

Intelligent people learn from life.

Fucktards keep doing the same ******* dumbassed things over and over and over and over again, blaming everybody else for it.

 

[jackflash]

Q. Are we governed by Federal, State, and local laws?
Q. Are we governed by what we have been taught?
Q. Are we governed by a sense of morality?
Q. Are we governed by our expectations, or the expectations of others?
A. Yes, to some extent, all of the above.

But what governs or influences most of our actions and behaviors is our basic human nature, which is largely ungovernable by outside influences or forces. In fact, we are generally in rebellion against any other form of governance.

INSANITY?

 

[Dorian Mode]

Political power depends on a disengaged public. Not disengaged from politics, but disengaged from living a better life regarding health, finances, family, and community.

The problem is that political power is actually easy to achieve. All one has to do is lie and tell the people what they want to hear, and when that doesn't work you make them afraid and lie again saying you can protect them. This captures enough people to make a majority that even the best constitution can't overcome. It is the secret to the success of the democrat party from 1992 until recently. It was the secret of the GOP from the 50's until the 90's. Today we have an even split where both parties are working out who can lie better and cause more fear. Only the smartest of the electorate know to avoid the fear and the lies. Only when the overwhelming majority of the electorate is smart enough to avoid the political propaganda will we have good governance. Until then most people will put their faith in of the two corrupt parties and the two corrupt parties will control the masses.