toobfreak
Tungsten/Glass Member
Careful, JC, you are throwing this entire thread for a loop. The OP ASKED US WHAT GREENHOUSE MODEL EFFECTS WE USE, expecting only the ones which support man-made climate warming. He never asked you for any theories which do not FULLY SUPPORT man as the cause of everything
So you deny the obvious presence of the Greenhouse Effect?
I have more than a few quibbles about what happens when you increase the level of existing GHGs.
But to deny the entire effect is absurd.
Without Ghgs all of the surface radiation would leave at the spped of light. Even if all the solar radiation reached the surface and was absorbed, then the system would radiate at 340w. A lot less than the nearly 400w now.
I'll ignore this since you obviously haven't read post 318 yet.