What do you know that these leaders do not?

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Chicken Little?

Chicken TACO.

 

[jc456]

Chicken TACO.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

AGAIN ---

These EU countries have paid Russia $913 Billion since the war started for gas/Oil - DESPITE sanctions against Russia.

THEY ARE FINANCING THIS WAR

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

After meeting Putin, Trump pivots on need for a ceasefire​

NPR
https://www.npr.org › 2025/08/17 › putin-trump-ceasef...
4 days ago — When President Trump was flying to Alaska to meet Vladimir Putin, he said the goal was a ceasefire. But after they talked, Trump aligned himself with Putin and downplayed the need for a truce.

 

[jc456]

After meeting Putin, Trump pivots on need for a ceasefire​

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4 days ago — When President Trump was flying to Alaska to meet Vladimir Putin, he said the goal was a ceasefire. But after they talked, Trump aligned himself with Putin and downplayed the need for a truce.

if I recall, he's been working on it since day 1, right? Four years and xiden did absolutely nothing to end it. What's your point?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

if I recall, he's been working on it since day 1, right? Four years and xiden did absolutely nothing to end it. What's your point?

And the Eu countries gave Russia $913 Billion just since the war began for Gas/oil because they outsourced their energy to - you know - lower their carbon footprint - wink wink

 

[jc456]

And the Eu countries gave Russia $913 Billion just since the war began for Gas/oil because they outsourced their energy to - you know - lower their carbon footprint - wink wink

BTW, that is all against the sanctions in place by the USA.

 

[Orangecat]

Since you clearly don't know "my side", there is no reason to continue.

 

[MisterBeale]

What do you know that these leaders do not?​

I know that war and killing are wrong, and thus, the European leaders should have forced Ukraine to abide by the Minsk agreements with the threat of not supporting him if he doesn't.

Zelensky violated the terms of the Minsk agreements, through the encouragement of the western deep state.

Hell, I heard the phone call hours before Putin invaded with my own ears. Putin gave the west one last chance to comply with the agreements. Both Macron and Biden knew that Russian troops were building up on the border to prevent the Ukrainian fascists from rolling in, and overwhelming the separatist forces. (a clear violation of the Minsk agreements.)

Leaked phone call reveals fiery exchange between Putin, Macron days before Ukraine war

French President Emmanuel Macron and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin had an intense argument over the phone about Ukraine just four days before Moscow’s forces invaded the country.

nypost.com

". . Putin then took issue with Zelensky’s apparent refusal to negotiate with pro-Kremlin Ukrainian separatists, which infuriated the French president and prompted him to exclaim in audible frustration: “I don’t know where your lawyer learned law!”

Un Président, l'Europe et la guerre

Le 1er janvier 2022, la France prend la présidence du Conseil de l'Union européenne. En entamant son mandat le président français entend pousser de nombreuses réformes auprès de ses partenaires. Mais la guerre en Ukraine bouleverse ses plans. L'Europe, stupéfaite, doit alors affronter sur son...

www.france.tv

Macron and Putin negotiated about Ukraine a while ago​

(This phone call is between Putin and Macron, four days before the invasion, taken from the above linked documentary.)





It was after that, the invasion started.

Months later, Merkle admitted that they were not in the Minsk negotiations in good faith. Their intention was only to give Ukraine time to arm up and oppress ethnic Russians in the Donbas.

Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War with Russia - CovertAction Magazine

War was inevitable outcome of 2014 U.S.-backed coup in Ukraine Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in an interview with Die Zeit, published on December 7, that “the 2014 Minsk agreement was an attempt to give time to Ukraine. It…used this time to become stronger as can be seen today. The...

covertactionmagazine.com

Macron Agrees With Merkel: Minsk Accord Helped Europe Prepare for Putin

Merkel admitted in December 2022 that the Minsk agreements were an effective ruse to give Ukraine time to 'get stronger'

trendsinthenews.substack.com

 

[Orangecat]

Aid flows to Ukraine shifted significantly in March and April 2025. While the United States allocated no new aid during this period, European countries increased their support. As a result, Europe has, for the first time since June 2022, surpassed the U.S. in total military aid,

Thanks to Donald Trump. Can you give credit where credit is due? Or is your TDS too severe?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

AND AGAIN --- European countries drags America into a war - they play both sides of the fence, they had a SIGNIFICANT role in starting the war - they are 100% FINANCING the war by paying Russia $913 Billion for gas/oil despite sanctions

... And people like Mac1958 say we should listen to them.

 

[BrokeLoser]

While American politics, American political parties, and American political leaders are squabbling over our role in the situation in Ukraine, leaders of the following European countries and organizations met with Trump in the last few days, all of them in full support of Ukraine and its efforts against Russia:

• United Kingdom
• Italy
• France
• Germany
• Finland
• European Commission
• NATO

As I think we all know, all of them have a deep and personal understanding of European history, aggressive dictators and WAR. All of them have made their positions on Putin abundantly clear: Putin is the aggressor and must be stopped and forced to pay a price for his war.

And yet, many in America are certain that they understand the Russia/Ukraine situation and history better than these people. So if you don't think this is our problem, I'm not sure why Trump should be involved in any way.

How have those of you who oppose these efforts become more informed than these people, exactly? Your sources must be incredible and immaculate. So please provide some informed clarification on this terribly difficult situation.

Who are the European leaders meeting with Trump and Zelenskyy?

What do you know that these leaders do not?​

We know the interests of Americans are not advanced by our involvement in the Russia/Ukraine war. We know we put ourselves at risk of a war with Russia.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

if I recall, he's been working on it since day 1, right? Four years and xiden did absolutely nothing to end it. What's your point?

Biden was supplying Ukraine with weapons Q-NUT.
Your dear leader stopped them.

 

[Nostra]

Mac15+15 taking another beating in his latest troll thread.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

And the Eu countries gave Russia $913 Billion just since the war began for Gas/oil because they outsourced their energy to - you know - lower their carbon footprint - wink wink

Link?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Link?

See that is the problem with you TDS people - you don't know this stuff.
It is appalling that you do not know that the EU countries have given Russian nearly a $Trillion just since the war has started.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

See that is the problem with you TDS people - you don't know this stuff.
It is appalling that you do not know that the EU countries have given Russian nearly a $Trillion just since the war has started.

That's the problem with the Trump cult.

You can never back up your claims or just lie.
Just like your dear leader.

Trump blames Zelensky for starting war day after massive ...​

BBC
https://www.bbc.com › news › articles
Apr 15, 2025 — Donald Trump has again blamed Volodymyr Zelensky for starting the war with Russia – a day after a major Russian attack killed 35 people and injured 117 others.

Trump calls Putin 'genius' and 'savvy' for Ukraine invasion​

Politico
https://www.politico.com › news › 2022/02/23 › trump...
Feb 23, 2022 — Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday described Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine as “genius” and “savvy,” praising his onetime ...

 

[jc456]

Biden was supplying Ukraine with weapons Q-NUT.
Your dear leader stopped them.

how is that a solution for peace exactly? So our tax dollars were wasted on a war that can't be won by either side? War-mongerer.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

That's the problem with the Trump cult.

You can never back up your claims.
Just like your dear leader.

Trump blames Zelensky for starting war day after massive ...​

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Apr 15, 2025 — Donald Trump has again blamed Volodymyr Zelensky for starting the war with Russia – a day after a major Russian attack killed 35 people and injured 117 others.

Trump calls Putin 'genius' and 'savvy' for Ukraine invasion​

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All you have is white noise.
I just told you Russia has made nearly a $trillion off of Nat gas/Oil despite sanctions... and all you got is - "yeah but... Trump said this!!!..."
As if that has any bearing on anything at all.

 

[jc456]

It’s all he does.

A pathetic troll.

Another Troll Thread indeed.