What do we have to do to get our country on the right track?

[Harry Dresden]

What 'far right'? Who are these people you speak of? That sounds like a bit of a cop out. Where on the right are the fringe elements given a voice? Nowhere. Flip that script and you can see every fringe leftist is given a voice, from militant queers, communists, and socialists. The problem is the radical left, nobody else.

far right is the party die hards rogue and yes you have them in that party....if you cant see that its because you might be one of them....

 

[Rogue AI]

far right is the party die hards rogue and yes you have them in that party....if you cant see that its because you might be one of them....

Who? You can't name even one. Sad.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Who? You can't name even one. Sad.

are you telling me that there are no party die hards in your party?...

 

[frigidweirdo]

No, because I like the current two party system. The battle lines are clearly drawn.
We don't need to form alliances and make deals and compromise with added complexity with no better governance.

My country is very alive thank you. Its the EU countries that are gridlocked by politics.

Yep, simple politics for simple people.

You like knowing who the enemy is, you like blaming EVERYTHING on the other side. You like waking up every day knowing who to attack.

Yep, that's what we need, simple politics, what could go wrong? Apart from the destruction of the country?

 

[kyzr]

Yep, simple politics for simple people.
You like knowing who the enemy is, you like blaming EVERYTHING on the other side. You like waking up every day knowing who to attack.

We like to debate policies. Biden or Kamala vs Trump or JD Vance shows the stark differences in abilities.

Yep, that's what we need, simple politics, what could go wrong? Apart from the destruction of the country?

If the democrats won in 2024 the dollar would have collapsed from borrowing $2T a year.
Trump is getting us to a balanced budget. That is not destruction, its prosperity.

 

[whitehall]

We already did it last November. Stand by.

 

[frigidweirdo]

We like to debate policies. Biden or Kamala vs Trump or JD Vance shows the stark differences in abilities.

If the democrats won in 2024 the dollar would have collapsed from borrowing $2T a year.
Trump is getting us to a balanced budget. That is not destruction, its prosperity.

You don't debate politics.

Except Trump keeps spending money, he's destroying the economy by kicking out necessary workers, by trying to increase inflation, by putting huge tariffs which is increasing prices.

But yeah, if we cherry pick only the things positive for Trump, he's doing an amazing job.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The answer is simple OP, get Donald Jay Trump, the ****, outta that Office.

Once that happens, we can BEGIN, the decades-long much needed repair from the harm and the damage that he inflicted upon the country.

You already got him out of office. How’d that work out?

 

[MarcATL]

You already got him out of office. How’d that work out?

The economy improved and America got a great reprieve from the harmful policies of that son-of-a-*****.

But, America hasn't had a dose of fascism yet, so we're learning what that's actually like now.

Hopefully they'll never make that mistake ever again, if we survive it.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The economy improved and America got a great reprieve from the harmful policies of that son-of-a-*****.

But, America hasn't had a dose of fascism yet, so we're learning what that's actually like now.

Hopefully they'll never make that mistake ever again, if we survive it.

What part of inflation rising 20 percent and Biden and Harris both losing to Trump did you not see?

 

[kyzr]

You don't debate politics.
Except Trump keeps spending money, he's destroying the economy by kicking out necessary workers, by trying to increase inflation, by putting huge tariffs which is increasing prices.

The economy is just fine thank you. That recession they kept predicting hasn't shown up yet. Workers are here, unemployment is at 4.3%. Tariffs help domestic manufacturing.

But yeah, if we cherry pick only the things positive for Trump, he's doing an amazing job.

True.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The economy is just fine thank you. That recession they kept predicting hasn't shown up yet. Workers are here, unemployment is at 4.3%. Tariffs help domestic manufacturing.

True.

Of course it hasn't.

A) Trump hasn't got the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates to increase inflation
B) He's pushed back the tariffs from this time, to the next time, to the next time. Who is actually paying tariffs right now?
C) The economy takes ages to change. You put in a policy, it could be three years before anyone actually notices.

Unemployment went from 3.6% in January to 4.3% in August. At this rate it'll be 5% by March.

Yes, they'll help domestic manufacturing but there might not be enough workers willing to do the jobs, which will push up wages, and inflation.

 

[Ringo]

 

[midcan5]

Tough topic and question. Other nations overcame authoritarians like Trump.

How Will U.S. Democracy Recover After Trump?

Poland and Brazil offer lessons for rebuilding in the wake of illiberal leaders.

foreignpolicy.com

 

[kyzr]

Of course it hasn't.
A) Trump hasn't got the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates to increase inflation

If you look at the "dot plot" interest rates are coming down, two cuts in 2025 and two or three cuts in 2026

B) He's pushed back the tariffs from this time, to the next time, to the next time. Who is actually paying tariffs right now?

Right now the importers are paying the tariffs, but they may pass the cost to consumers if possible

C) The economy takes ages to change. You put in a policy, it could be three years before anyone actually notices.

True. Trump's $17T of commitments for new manufacturing plants will take at least 3-years to get running.

Unemployment went from 3.6% in January to 4.3% in August. At this rate it'll be 5% by March.

Doubtful. College grads can['t find work. Trump just put a $100,000 cost on H1-B visas to get more US kids hired.

Yes, tariffs help domestic manufacturing but there might not be enough workers willing to do the jobs, which will push up wages, and inflation.

We'll see how it plays out. The Participation Rate is still in the low 60% numbers.

 

[sartre play]

Well history proves that is incorrect.

you do know King was murdered for his beliefs ?

 

[PeterPilot]

"Controlled" is too strong a word.
"Influenced" is closer to the truth.
Unless you believe that those "foreign interests" elected Trump?????
"Special interests" covers a lot of ground, Zuckerbucks, Elon's help, Soros, and corporate money, not all of it goes to one party.
Kamala had $3.5b compared to Trump's $1.5b, and we know what happened.
If your team wins, you get the spoils, if not tough luck.

What does it mean that the Israeli Flag flew alongside the US Flag at the GOP Convention last year? What is the significance of 50+ standing ovations in the US Congress for the war criminal from Tel Aviv?

Why are the GOP so anxious to hide the Epstein stuff?

 

[frigidweirdo]

If you look at the "dot plot" interest rates are coming down, two cuts in 2025 and two or three cuts in 2026

Right now the importers are paying the tariffs, but they may pass the cost to consumers if possible

True. Trump's $17T of commitments for new manufacturing plants will take at least 3-years to get running.

Doubtful. College grads can['t find work. Trump just put a $100,000 cost on H1-B visas to get more US kids hired.

We'll see how it plays out. The Participation Rate is still in the low 60% numbers.

With interest rates, Trump doesn't have control of the Federal Reserve. If or when he gets control he wants to use interest rates to boost the stock market.

Here’s Why Trump Wants Lower Interest Rates

Donald Trump has been demanding lower rates from the Fed for years—one of the clearest conflicts of interest in a presidency full of them.

www.forbes.com

Also seems to help people like Trump who hold lots of assets like bonds and real estate.

The problem is that it could lead to inflation. Trump doesn't care. For him, as a rich person, he sees inflation as nothing, because his assets will rise in value with inflation. For poorer people, it's a huge problem, their wages don't catch up quickly, their savings lose value.

Importers aren't really paying, it's the customers paying, because they're charging more. Now, maybe they'll make less profit in order to sell their goods, or maybe they just sell elsewhere.

New manufacturing plants doesn't mean the US will do more manufacturing. In order to make lots of money, you need to be exporting, difficult if other countries are not going to buy.

The problem with putting $100,000 onto the visa is that it'll take until their visa runs out. Say you run a company that needs such people, do you A) hire Americans or B) relocate or just have people working in other countries?

but unemployment is consistently rising by 0.1% a month right now.

 

[Zincwarrior]

What do we have to do to get our country on the right track?
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Deport Miller to Venezuela.

 

[kyzr]

With interest rates, Trump doesn't have control of the Federal Reserve. If or when he gets control he wants to use interest rates to boost the stock market. Also seems to help people like Trump who hold lots of assets like bonds and real estate.

The "neutral rate" is between 2.5% and 3%. The current rate is 4.1%, so there is room to cut. One other bonus from cutting interest rates is that for every 1% cut that saves $300b a year on interest on that $37T Debt. which could lead to a balanced budget.

The problem is that rate cuts could lead to inflation. Trump doesn't care. For him, as a rich person, he sees inflation as nothing, because his assets will rise in value with inflation. For poorer people, it's a huge problem, their wages don't catch up quickly, their savings lose value.

Trump knows that his political power hinges on elections, and elections hinge on the cost of living. Biden cost US families $11,400 a year in lost buying power due to his runaway inflation. Trump wants to give families more buying power by cutting energy costs and no tax on tips or OT. Keep watching inflation, it won't go much higher if at all.

Importers aren't really paying, it's the customers paying, because they're charging more. Now, maybe they'll make less profit in order to sell their goods, or maybe they just sell elsewhere.

The report I saw said importers are paying the tariffs now, but will try to recoup costs later.

New manufacturing plants doesn't mean the US will do more manufacturing. In order to make lots of money, you need to be exporting, difficult if other countries are not going to buy.

Most of the new manufacturing plants, $17T committed are cars and chips.

The problem with putting $100,000 onto the visa is that it'll take until their visa runs out. Say you run a company that needs such people, do you A) hire Americans or B) relocate or just have people working in other countries?

No clue. Big companies will probably only pay $100,000 for exceptional talent.

but unemployment is consistently rising by 0.1% a month right now.

As AI kicks in unemployment will get worse. College grads can't find work now, which is why Trump is putting that $100,000 fee on visas, so they hire more American kids.