What do the Democrats ‘stand’ for ?

[airplanemechanic]

You can tell a lot about a political party by their leader ship.

Democrats look like America.

Tim Scott said the 2022 Senate race would be his last. That means we would be 2 years into Trumps final term and he is STILL running for senate.

So your meme is false and misleading.

 

[colfax_m]

What do you mean I provided a chart with nothing to back it up? I said the deficit was lowered under Obama and it was lowered. The chart is the back up for that statement. Are you saying the chart is false?

You’re conflating debt and deficit. This is a concept so basic I have to believe you either are purposefully ignoring the difference or you dropped out of middle school.

You didn't source your chart so that chart could have been made up numbers made up by you. That's why you SOURCE your information with links or else its just hot air.

You can't DOUBLE the debt and have lowered the deficit. Do you even know what the deficit IS?

Was the chart made up numbers?

The deficit is how much debt is added per year. The debt is how much money we owe. Cutting the deficit means we add less to the debt each year. The debt will still climb as long as you have a deficit but cutting the deficit is how you reduce the rate at which you’re adding debt.

Shoulda stayed in school son.

From your chart source moron:

For example, $9.3 trillion was added to the national debt under Obama. But his total budget deficits totaled $6.785 trillion. Similarly, President Bush's stated budget deficits totaled $3.294 trillion. But he added $5.849 trillion to the debt.

Obamas 8 years of deficits was 6.75 Trillion. Bush was 3.29 trillion. Obama had larger deficits that Bush.

Should have taken Econ 101 moron. Dude you're really making yourself look like an idiot acting like Obama was fiscally responsible. Just stop. Everyone knows you're an idiot at this point.

Dude, you’re attempting to correct me on things I haven’t claimed. You’re taking sum totals of debt added during their terms. I’m talking about trends. You can’t seem to follow a conversation.

Federal deficits when he entered office were substantially higher than when he left. Guess what has happened to federal deficits since he left office? Go ahead. Guess.

Oh so now its "trend?" Can you find the word "trend" in any post you made on this topic prior to that? That's called moving the goalposts and a sign you're losing the argument.

Here are your trends, again, from your source:

President Barack Obama: Total = $6.785 trillion, a 57% increase.

• FY 2017 - $666 billion. Although Trump requested additional spending, Congress did not approve it.
• FY 2016 - $585 billion.
• FY 2015 - $438 billion.
• FY 2014 - $485 billion.
• FY 2013 - $679 billion.
• FY 2012 - $1.087 trillion.
• FY 2011 - $1.300 trillion.
• FY 2010 - $1 trillion.19 This is the sum of $1.294 trillion plus $253 billion from the Obama Stimulus Act that was attached to the FY 2009 budget

President George W. Bush: Total = $3.293 trillion, a 57% increase.

• FY 2009 - $1.16 trillion. This amount is calculated from $1.413 trillion minus $253 billion from Obama's Stimulus Act.
• FY 2008 - $459 billion.
• FY 2007 - $161 billion.
• FY 2006 - $248 billion.
• FY 2005 - $318 billion.
• FY 2004 - $413 billion.
• FY 2003 - $378 billion.
• FY 2002 - $158 billion.

Obama has consistently MUCH higher deficits than GWB did. So once again, please explain how Obama LOWERED THE DEFICIT when it was higher than GWB?

Deficits are an annual measure. I didn’t say trend because it was obvious what I was talking about. I’m not used to spelling everything out to people since most understand English perfectly fine.

When Obama came into office, deficits were on the order of a trillion. When he left, they were about half that. That’s a downward trend.

Guess what’s happened since then?

 

[colfax_m]

Anybody who read this persons post, must be rolling on the floor laughing-)

The Left can't do ANYTHING correctly, and yet they want to run everything.

Just to name 1, fiscal sanity? Oh yes, between a Socialist healthcare takeover, and a green new deal, they want to spend 100 trillion over 10 years, when our income from taxes is around 45 trillion, and that is BEFORE we fund anything else.

Unless you can NOT count, if you accept this idiocy, you are a HUGE part of the problem.

Obama expanded health insurance coverage to dramatically more Americans and lowered the deficit. Not easy task.

Trump did literally the exact opposite.

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years. How exactly did he lower the deficit?

It wasn’t easy.
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Hmm. According to this left-wing chart you provided, in the first year of Obama's administration, deficit spending tripled. Even a fourth-grader could have lowered the deficit spending in the subsequent years.

Perhaps Obama took night classes and returned to the fourth grade.

Raise the deficit so you can get credit for lowering it.

The deficit went up because of the worst economic collapse in generations.

 

[colfax_m]

Clean air. Good education. Better health care. Fiscal sanity. Strong alliances. Helping working class Americans. Apple pie.

Anybody who read this persons post, must be rolling on the floor laughing-)

The Left can't do ANYTHING correctly, and yet they want to run everything.

Just to name 1, fiscal sanity? Oh yes, between a Socialist healthcare takeover, and a green new deal, they want to spend 100 trillion over 10 years, when our income from taxes is around 45 trillion, and that is BEFORE we fund anything else.

Unless you can NOT count, if you accept this idiocy, you are a HUGE part of the problem.

Obama expanded health insurance coverage to dramatically more Americans and lowered the deficit. Not easy task.

Trump did literally the exact opposite.

Obama doubled the debt in 8 years. How exactly did he lower the deficit?

It wasn’t easy.
View attachment 304772

Hmm. According to this left-wing chart you provided, in the first year of Obama's administration, deficit spending tripled. Even a fourth-grader could have lowered the deficit spending in the subsequent years.

Perhaps Obama took night classes and returned to the fourth grade.

Deficit spending increased dramatically prior to Obama taking office.

 

[colfax_m]

Uh, no. That’s not what happened. Medicare was cut in ways that did not affect benefits. Medicare wasn’t turned into a pay for everyone and anyone.

Defense can’t make it on half a trillion dollars? Actually cutting programs does solve fiscal issues.

Entitlements weren’t cut. They were actually expanded and the deficit still went down. Because there were tax increases and budget cuts that outweighed it. It wasn’t easy. Certainly it’s a lot easier to cut taxes, increase spending but that’s a Trump style move.

BULLSH**! YOUR side altered an entitlement that was pay as you go. Now you want to support YOUR contention? You show us how DEPRIVING 700 and something BILLION from Medicare, actually got that program a PROFIT!

You can't do that, you are blowing smoke-)

No benefits were cut. Medicare costs were reduced by lowering reimbursements and adjusting advantage plans which were not working as intended.

If you’re smart, you can cut programs without cutting benefits.

Get with it! Show us the Medicare recouped its' 700 billion, how they lowered their outlays, or how Obysmalcare made a profit!

WE ARE WAITING!

I don’t know if you understand how complex an issue you are asking about. You can start here.

The Medicare Cost Curve Bent During the Obama Administration - Center for American Progress

LOL, did it? Or was it because UNINSURED Americans were forced to pay into a system that they did NOT participate in!

What happened when...……...and I quote...……...the ILLEGAL MANDATE was removed-)

Look, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to fund something when they can raise taxes to pay for it, now does it! The question is----------->are more people HURT, or HELPED!

Your side can NOT come up with ANYTHING that is revenue, neutral, period! You are all about 60 to 100 trillion over the next 10 years, MORE than we already spend.

Hey, you like your ideas? Then tell the DAMN TRUTH!

TRUTH-------------->is it worth what they want to give you to RAISE your personal income tax by 50 to 60%? Get Americans to agree with that, and you have winner. All I can say is-------->good luck with that!

I really can’t make a lot of sense out of this post.

 

[imawhosure]

BULLSH**! YOUR side altered an entitlement that was pay as you go. Now you want to support YOUR contention? You show us how DEPRIVING 700 and something BILLION from Medicare, actually got that program a PROFIT!

You can't do that, you are blowing smoke-)

No benefits were cut. Medicare costs were reduced by lowering reimbursements and adjusting advantage plans which were not working as intended.

If you’re smart, you can cut programs without cutting benefits.

Get with it! Show us the Medicare recouped its' 700 billion, how they lowered their outlays, or how Obysmalcare made a profit!

WE ARE WAITING!

I don’t know if you understand how complex an issue you are asking about. You can start here.

The Medicare Cost Curve Bent During the Obama Administration - Center for American Progress

LOL, did it? Or was it because UNINSURED Americans were forced to pay into a system that they did NOT participate in!

What happened when...……...and I quote...……...the ILLEGAL MANDATE was removed-)

Look, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to fund something when they can raise taxes to pay for it, now does it! The question is----------->are more people HURT, or HELPED!

Your side can NOT come up with ANYTHING that is revenue, neutral, period! You are all about 60 to 100 trillion over the next 10 years, MORE than we already spend.

Hey, you like your ideas? Then tell the DAMN TRUTH!

TRUTH-------------->is it worth what they want to give you to RAISE your personal income tax by 50 to 60%? Get Americans to agree with that, and you have winner. All I can say is-------->good luck with that!

I really can’t make a lot of sense out of this post.

Look dude or dudette, all you have to do is show a link that Medicare recouped their money from the legislation you supported, ergo---------------->the influx was larger than the outlay, soley from the legislation passed; and that it would have been LESS of an increase, had it NOT been for that legislation!

I mean personally, most of us believe that entitlements should be hands off. What if the idea doesn't work? Then you have an entitlement that has to be replenished, because you STOLE cash from them to fund a BAD idea.

So prove it! Your idea MADE these entitlements that we are all on the hook for more viable, and we will start the convo from there; and you know what...………...if you can do that, you just won 50% of the debate, so it behooves you to find the proof!

 

[colfax_m]

No benefits were cut. Medicare costs were reduced by lowering reimbursements and adjusting advantage plans which were not working as intended.

If you’re smart, you can cut programs without cutting benefits.

Get with it! Show us the Medicare recouped its' 700 billion, how they lowered their outlays, or how Obysmalcare made a profit!

WE ARE WAITING!

I don’t know if you understand how complex an issue you are asking about. You can start here.

The Medicare Cost Curve Bent During the Obama Administration - Center for American Progress

LOL, did it? Or was it because UNINSURED Americans were forced to pay into a system that they did NOT participate in!

What happened when...……...and I quote...……...the ILLEGAL MANDATE was removed-)

Look, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to fund something when they can raise taxes to pay for it, now does it! The question is----------->are more people HURT, or HELPED!

Your side can NOT come up with ANYTHING that is revenue, neutral, period! You are all about 60 to 100 trillion over the next 10 years, MORE than we already spend.

Hey, you like your ideas? Then tell the DAMN TRUTH!

TRUTH-------------->is it worth what they want to give you to RAISE your personal income tax by 50 to 60%? Get Americans to agree with that, and you have winner. All I can say is-------->good luck with that!

I really can’t make a lot of sense out of this post.

Look dude or dudette, all you have to do is show a link that Medicare recouped their money from the legislation you supported, ergo---------------->the influx was larger than the outlay, soley from the legislation passed; and that it would have been LESS of an increase, had it NOT been for that legislation!

I mean personally, most of us believe that entitlements should be hands off. What if the idea doesn't work? Then you have an entitlement that has to be replenished, because you STOLE cash from them to fund a BAD idea.

So prove it! Your idea MADE these entitlements that we are all on the hook for more viable, and we will start the convo from there; and you know what...………...if you can do that, you just won 50% of the debate, so it behooves you to find the proof!

No, this isn’t true. You’re framing of the issue isn’t correct. What you’d have to show is a bend in the cost curve, a reduction in expenditures over what was expected. What you’re asking is actually irrelevant. The Medicare budget is not based on the revenues since its an entitlement.

 

[BULLDOG]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

Easy.
List every Biblical value taught by God and it’s the opposite.

Every single one. No generalization. Every single one.

You mean like grabbing them by the *****, or paying porn stars for sex while your wife is recovering from child birth? What about just lying and cheating and stealing?

Ah... says a dedicated member of the rock throwing brigade....

Rock throwing? He is guilty of everything listed.

And he’s going to kick your ass in November.

Possibly, but he's still guilty of everything listed.

 

[BULLDOG]

You mean like grabbing them by the *****, or paying porn stars for sex while your wife is recovering from child birth? What about just lying and cheating and stealing?

Ah... says a dedicated member of the rock throwing brigade....

Rock throwing? He is guilty of everything listed.

Yes Trump is working on selling Alaska to Russia for $1 for helping him win the White House.

Actually, he is trying to buy Greenland
Too bad he never checked to see if it was for sale

Actually you didn't mention China is actively seeking to buy land in Greenland... you do know we own land in numerous countries? Right... fairly common.

The idiot was actually talking about trying to buy the entire country. That's just insane.

 

[imawhosure]

Get with it! Show us the Medicare recouped its' 700 billion, how they lowered their outlays, or how Obysmalcare made a profit!

WE ARE WAITING!

I don’t know if you understand how complex an issue you are asking about. You can start here.

The Medicare Cost Curve Bent During the Obama Administration - Center for American Progress

LOL, did it? Or was it because UNINSURED Americans were forced to pay into a system that they did NOT participate in!

What happened when...……...and I quote...……...the ILLEGAL MANDATE was removed-)

Look, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to fund something when they can raise taxes to pay for it, now does it! The question is----------->are more people HURT, or HELPED!

Your side can NOT come up with ANYTHING that is revenue, neutral, period! You are all about 60 to 100 trillion over the next 10 years, MORE than we already spend.

Hey, you like your ideas? Then tell the DAMN TRUTH!

TRUTH-------------->is it worth what they want to give you to RAISE your personal income tax by 50 to 60%? Get Americans to agree with that, and you have winner. All I can say is-------->good luck with that!

I really can’t make a lot of sense out of this post.

Look dude or dudette, all you have to do is show a link that Medicare recouped their money from the legislation you supported, ergo---------------->the influx was larger than the outlay, soley from the legislation passed; and that it would have been LESS of an increase, had it NOT been for that legislation!

I mean personally, most of us believe that entitlements should be hands off. What if the idea doesn't work? Then you have an entitlement that has to be replenished, because you STOLE cash from them to fund a BAD idea.

So prove it! Your idea MADE these entitlements that we are all on the hook for more viable, and we will start the convo from there; and you know what...………...if you can do that, you just won 50% of the debate, so it behooves you to find the proof!

No, this isn’t true. You’re framing of the issue isn’t correct. What you’d have to show is a bend in the cost curve, a reduction in expenditures over what was expected. What you’re asking is actually irrelevant. The Medicare budget is not based on the revenues since its an entitlement.

Oh, so you mean the OMB telling us that Medicare will go broke in 7 years is just political theater?

You show us a profit, we will listen. You use NARRATIVE phrases like "bend," we laugh at your incompetence-)

 

[B. Kidd]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

The Dems stand for trainwrecking America!

 

[BULLDOG]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

Easy.
List every Biblical value taught by God and it’s the opposite.

Every single one. No generalization. Every single one.

You mean like grabbing them by the *****, or paying porn stars for sex while your wife is recovering from child birth? What about just lying and cheating and stealing?

Sounds like a good demoncrap.

Can you even acknowledge that those are things Trump has done?

 

[JusticeHammer]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

Easy.
List every Biblical value taught by God and it’s the opposite.

Every single one. No generalization. Every single one.

You mean like grabbing them by the *****, or paying porn stars for sex while your wife is recovering from child birth? What about just lying and cheating and stealing?

Sounds like a good demoncrap.

Can you even acknowledge that those are things Trump has done?

Can you acknowledge Trump was almost as bad as Bill Clinton?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Easy.
List every Biblical value taught by God and it’s the opposite.

Every single one. No generalization. Every single one.

You mean like grabbing them by the *****, or paying porn stars for sex while your wife is recovering from child birth? What about just lying and cheating and stealing?

Ah... says a dedicated member of the rock throwing brigade....

Rock throwing? He is guilty of everything listed.

And he’s going to kick your ass in November.

Possibly, but he's still guilty of everything listed.

Guilty in the eyes of the beholder, the rabid leftist base. That’s about it.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Ah... says a dedicated member of the rock throwing brigade....

Rock throwing? He is guilty of everything listed.

Yes Trump is working on selling Alaska to Russia for $1 for helping him win the White House.

Actually, he is trying to buy Greenland
Too bad he never checked to see if it was for sale

Actually you didn't mention China is actively seeking to buy land in Greenland... you do know we own land in numerous countries? Right... fairly common.

The idiot was actually talking about trying to buy the entire country. That's just insane.

You are not aware of a lot of things are you?
So guessing you have no idea that this is not a new idea and America has on several occasions sought to buy the country. I believe 6 times.
The last serious offer was in 1967. Harry Truman made an offer in 1951, that is the Danes would have accepted - they would have came out on top is a big, big way. Greenland is believed to have enormous resources that Denmark doesn't have the money to invest to get it. As well as it would open up trade routes that would create enormous benefits for not only the Danes, but all of Europe.
Besides all of that, there were no actual proposals, the possibilities were being discussed. It would help block China's hold on the area and stop military expansion by Russia. But then of course the media got wind of it and set out to ridicule the whole thing as crazy, unhinged and the makings of a mad man.
It is not crazy. It would benefit a great deal of people, including especially the citizens there. And help fight Chinese and Russian expansion.

 

[deanrd]

What do you mean I provided a chart with nothing to back it up? I said the deficit was lowered under Obama and it was lowered. The chart is the back up for that statement. Are you saying the chart is false?

You’re conflating debt and deficit. This is a concept so basic I have to believe you either are purposefully ignoring the difference or you dropped out of middle school.

You didn't source your chart so that chart could have been made up numbers made up by you. That's why you SOURCE your information with links or else its just hot air.

You can't DOUBLE the debt and have lowered the deficit. Do you even know what the deficit IS?

Was the chart made up numbers?

The deficit is how much debt is added per year. The debt is how much money we owe. Cutting the deficit means we add less to the debt each year. The debt will still climb as long as you have a deficit but cutting the deficit is how you reduce the rate at which you’re adding debt.

Shoulda stayed in school son.

From your chart source moron:

For example, $9.3 trillion was added to the national debt under Obama. But his total budget deficits totaled $6.785 trillion. Similarly, President Bush's stated budget deficits totaled $3.294 trillion. But he added $5.849 trillion to the debt.

Obamas 8 years of deficits was 6.75 Trillion. Bush was 3.29 trillion. Obama had larger deficits that Bush.

Should have taken Econ 101 moron. Dude you're really making yourself look like an idiot acting like Obama was fiscally responsible. Just stop. Everyone knows you're an idiot at this point.

Dude, you’re attempting to correct me on things I haven’t claimed. You’re taking sum totals of debt added during their terms. I’m talking about trends. You can’t seem to follow a conversation.

Federal deficits when he entered office were substantially higher than when he left. Guess what has happened to federal deficits since he left office? Go ahead. Guess.

Oh so now its "trend?" Can you find the word "trend" in any post you made on this topic prior to that? That's called moving the goalposts and a sign you're losing the argument.

Here are your trends, again, from your source:

President Barack Obama: Total = $6.785 trillion, a 57% increase.

• FY 2017 - $666 billion. Although Trump requested additional spending, Congress did not approve it.
• FY 2016 - $585 billion.
• FY 2015 - $438 billion.
• FY 2014 - $485 billion.
• FY 2013 - $679 billion.
• FY 2012 - $1.087 trillion.
• FY 2011 - $1.300 trillion.
• FY 2010 - $1 trillion.19 This is the sum of $1.294 trillion plus $253 billion from the Obama Stimulus Act that was attached to the FY 2009 budget

President George W. Bush: Total = $3.293 trillion, a 57% increase.

• FY 2009 - $1.16 trillion. This amount is calculated from $1.413 trillion minus $253 billion from Obama's Stimulus Act.
• FY 2008 - $459 billion.
• FY 2007 - $161 billion.
• FY 2006 - $248 billion.
• FY 2005 - $318 billion.
• FY 2004 - $413 billion.
• FY 2003 - $378 billion.
• FY 2002 - $158 billion.

Obama has consistently MUCH higher deficits than GWB did. So once again, please explain how Obama LOWERED THE DEFICIT when it was higher than GWB?

Oh thanks for the opportunity.

That’s an easy one.


Bush and the GOP passed more than 3 trillion in tax cuts. He put both wars on credit cards. The economy was on a sugar high of free money. It was like the Republicans ultimate in a money party. And it all came crashing down in 2008 when it was turned over to President Obama

Is that enough or should I go on?

 

[Dick Foster]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

To put it bluntly, they currently stand for and support stupidity and any anti American sentiment out there. No matter the source.

 

[BULLDOG]

Democrats hardly stood for anything in last night’s SOTU. I guess they could not stand when Trump said that socialism had no place in healthcare but not standing for a Black girl whose local school had failed her and Trump corrected it was pretty bad.

Easy.
List every Biblical value taught by God and it’s the opposite.

Every single one. No generalization. Every single one.

You mean like grabbing them by the *****, or paying porn stars for sex while your wife is recovering from child birth? What about just lying and cheating and stealing?

Sounds like a good demoncrap.

Can you even acknowledge that those are things Trump has done?

Can you acknowledge Trump was almost as bad as Bill Clinton?

No comparison. Trump is much worse than Clinton. You're lying if you say different.

 

[deanrd]

You can tell a lot about a political party by their leader ship.

Democrats look like America.

Tim Scott said the 2022 Senate race would be his last. That means we would be 2 years into Trumps final term and he is STILL running for senate.

So your meme is false and misleading.

Not true. When you announce that the next election is the last one you’re running, then you’re begging to lose.

check this out:

Under President Donald Trump’s presidency, Scott has been one of the most outspoken Republican senators to condemn racist rhetoric. Most recently, Scott condemned Trump’s attack on four congresswomen of color, criticizing Trump’s tweets that the freshman lawmakers should “go home” as racially offensive.

He also played a prominent role in sinking two of Trump’s judicial nominees - Thomas Farr for district judge in North Carolina and Ryan Bounds for the Ninth Circuit - over their views and actions on race.

Tim Scott says 2022 Senate race will be his last

No way Democrats are going to vote for him. And with the record of being so anti-Trump, Republicans will never vote for him either. He’s basically a lame duck Republican who will be out at the end of his term.

but on the other hand, saying oh look we have one black guy, is not saying a whole lot. That reminds me of Trump saying where is my one African-American? Where is my black guy? Too hilarious for words.

republicans have a race problem. Here, check this out from Fox News? And remember, this is from Fox News.

Nazis and anti-Semites slip through GOP primaries, causing headaches for party | Fox News

 

[BULLDOG]

You mean like grabbing them by the *****, or paying porn stars for sex while your wife is recovering from child birth? What about just lying and cheating and stealing?

Ah... says a dedicated member of the rock throwing brigade....

Rock throwing? He is guilty of everything listed.

And he’s going to kick your ass in November.

Possibly, but he's still guilty of everything listed.

Guilty in the eyes of the beholder, the rabid leftist base. That’s about it.

No dumb ass. Guilty in the eye of the law.