What do normal people - think of Israel?

[toastman]

...Even if the whole world had a positive opinion about Israel, Muslim states would have a negative opinion of the Jewish State

I wonder why....could it be 66 years of brutal persecution, oppression and murder of their co-religionists in Palestine? Stop killing Palestinian women and children and they might like you more.

Stop attacking Israel, and Israel will have no reason to send warplanes/troops into Gaza.

But you're wrong, Muslim states will never accept Israel, except the few that already do. Not that it matters really.

 

[Lipush]

All one needs to know in this thread is what normal people think about Israel, the BBC polls convincingly demonstrate what that is.

For some reason the opinion of normal people can't be accepted for what it is by those who appear to be Israel apologists.

That they don't want to recognise reality seems of a piece with their willingness to ignore the voices of Muslim nation residents.

I believe that's called the ostrich manoeuvre.

Who died and made you decide Arab-apologists are "normal people?"

I mean, **** you all!


Oh, sorry, that was impolite.

**** you all, please.

 

[cnm]

Who died and made you decide Arab-apologists are "normal people?"

I mean, **** you all!


Oh, sorry, that was impolite.

**** you all, please.

See? If it's perceived to be Muslim oriented it shouldn't have a voice in the view of apparent Israel apologists.

Normal people think Israel is living a self centred fantasy where other people's views don't count.

Hmmm, so now normal people think Israel

maintains apartheid regimes,
steals,
commits war crimes,
wags the US,
doesn't keep its promises,
casts itself as a victim,
won't join courts because it will be found guilty,
imposes collective punishments on occupied territiories,
provokes wars of convenience,
is living a self centred fantasy where other people's views don't count.

You know, I really think we're starting to get somewhere.

 

[MaryL]

Normal people wonder if Palestine has a right to exist. Since it was created by the British in 1916 or so carved out of Jordan and Lebanon. And Arab Muslims and Jews co existed there for hundreds of years before, what is the problem? What do Normal people think? Israel is the Jewish homeland, that's what normal people think. Israel is the safe place, it's home ...I don't know what else to say.

Completely wrong in every aspect of your prose.....I shall not even try to explain to you.........because I have analysed you and quite frankly because you are a borderline Cretin......you just are not worth my time...but have a nice life........all the same.

No, I am quite right and you are just being childish. Analyzed my prose... are you kidding? What about the history? Don't question that, though.

 

[cnm]

Even the Scots realise what normal people think about Israel;

Peter Jones: Israel losing battle of world opinion

Peter Jones Israel losing battle of world opinion - The Scotsman

Instead the evidence is that Israel is losing the battle for world opinion. A variety of non-governmental human rights organisations, including the UN Human Rights Council, have either accused the Israeli government of war crimes or are calling for an investigation into whether they have been committed. A good many western governments, normally supportive of Israel’s rights to self-defence, believe that its assaults on Gaza are utterly disproportionate to the attacks on it.

 

[cnm]

Uri Avery realised a long time ago what normal people think of Israel:

Israel ignoring “tectonic change” in public opinion

Israel ignoring tectonic change in public opinion Redress Information Analysis

For a month and a half, day after day, people around the world were bombarded with pictures of killed human beings, maimed children, crying mothers, destroyed apartment buildings, damaged hospitals and schools, masses of homeless refugees. Thanks to the Iron Dome [anti-missile defence system], no destroyed Israeli buildings could be seen, nor hardly any dead Israeli civilians.


An ordinary decent person, whether in Stockholm or Seattle or Singapore, cannot be exposed to such a steady stream of horrible images without being affected – first unconsciously, then consciously. The picture of “The Israeli” in the mind’s eye changes slowly, almost imperceptibly. The brave pioneer standing up to the savages around him mutates into an ugly bully terrorising a helpless population.


Why do Israelis not realise this? Because We Are Always Right.

 

[Lipush]

Who died and made you decide Arab-apologists are "normal people?"

I mean, **** you all!


Oh, sorry, that was impolite.

**** you all, please.

See? If it's perceived to be Muslim oriented it shouldn't have a voice in the view of apparent Israel apologists.

Normal people think Israel is living a self centred fantasy where other people's views don't count.

Hmmm, so now normal people think Israel

maintains apartheid regimes,
steals,
commits war crimes,
wags the US,
doesn't keep its promises,
casts itself as a victim,
won't join courts because it will be found guilty,
imposes collective punishments on occupied territiories,
provokes wars of convenience,
is living a self centred fantasy where other people's views don't count.

You know, I really think we're starting to get somewhere.

You repeat the same nonsense others repeated before you.

At least come up with something original, idiot.

 

[cnm]

I guess as long as Israel apologists keep denying plain truth, that Israel has a terrible PR problem, the actual facts of the situation will bear repeating. I note you have not much to contribute beyond 'is not'.

If you disagree with the assertions put forward, show your version of what normal people think about Israel. Feel free to back it up with evidence.

 

[docmauser1]

Pete had one Laphroaig too many, poor sod.[/font]

 

[docmauser1]

Uri Avery realised a long time ago what normal people think of Israel: Israel ignoring “tectonic change” in public opinion

That's the area of the brain surgeons, brains, shifting position and stuff.

 

[Mindful]

What a normal person thinks of Israel.

Top 10 Ways Living in Israel is Not at all What You Think - Expat Contest

 

[docmauser1]

I guess as long as Israel apologists keep denying plain truth, that Israel has a terrible PR problem, ...

Indeed, instead of spending on themselves, palistanians spend on agitprop. International donors, keeping that parasitic state afloat, should be taking the fact into consideration, of course.

 

[cnm]

Indeed, instead of spending on themselves, palistanians spend on agitprop. International donors, keeping that parasitic state afloat, should be taking the fact into consideration, of course.

Perhaps if the import/export restrictions were removed Palestine could support itself better. I guess that's another thing normal people think about Israel, that it restricts the economic growth of Palestine. So now we have normal people thinking Israel

maintains apartheid regimes,
steals,
commits war crimes,
wags the US,
doesn't keep its promises,
casts itself as a victim,
won't join courts because it will be found guilty,
imposes collective punishments on occupied territiories,
provokes wars of convenience,
is living a self centred fantasy where other people's views don't count,
restricts the economic growth of Palestine.

 

[cnm]

Pete had one Laphroaig too many, poor sod.

I don't know that even a Scot would be desperate enough to get drunk on southern Islay Malts.

 

[montelatici]

I guess as long as Israel apologists keep denying plain truth, that Israel has a terrible PR problem, ...

Indeed, instead of spending on themselves, palistanians spend on agitprop. International donors, keeping that parasitic state afloat, should be taking the fact into consideration, of course.

Israel has imprisoned millions and has the international community pay for their imprisonment. That's the reality, and we have disgusting people, mostly Americans, supporting this crime against humanity.

 

[cnm]

Israel has imprisoned millions and has the international community pay for their imprisonment. That's the reality, and we have disgusting people, mostly Americans, supporting this crime against humanity.

And blaming the Palestinians for it.

 

[Vikrant]

I guess as long as Israel apologists keep denying plain truth, that Israel has a terrible PR problem, ...

Indeed, instead of spending on themselves, palistanians spend on agitprop. International donors, keeping that parasitic state afloat, should be taking the fact into consideration, of course.

Israel has imprisoned millions and has the international community pay for their imprisonment. That's the reality, and we have disgusting people, mostly Americans, supporting this crime against humanity.

There is another disgusting thing and it is called illiteracy which produces people like you who are functionally illiterate. If you knew how to read, you would have known that Israel has around 25,000 people in its prison system not millions. The entire population of Israel is just about 8-million. So, how can they have millions in the prison? Lay off the hashish and get real for a second.

 

[ChrisL]

I feel like Israelis are MUCH closer to being like us than the palestinians or any other ME country, and IMO, that's normal. What isn't normal, is the spreading of hate and propaganda by the Islamists, not just for Jews, but for anyone who doesn't view things in the same ways that they do. They are ignorant savages, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I feel like Israelis are MUCH closer to being like us than the palestinians or any other ME country, and IMO, that's normal. What isn't normal, is the spreading of hate and propaganda by the Islamists, not just for Jews, but for anyone who doesn't view things in the same ways that they do. They are ignorant savages, as far as I'm concerned.

In think it is the fact that Israel is more like us in terms of being a modern, liberal society that actually drives the hatred. It's almost nihilistic with some of these wretched pieces of filth who hate Jews in that the more barbaric Arabs become, the more they are supported since it is the desire for destruction that drives their hatred.

That desire may lie in a sense of personal self-loathing projected on to an entire culture, but it isn't rational. This identification with genocidal savages is a sickness. .

 

[ChrisL]

Indeed, instead of spending on themselves, palistanians spend on agitprop. International donors, keeping that parasitic state afloat, should be taking the fact into consideration, of course.

Perhaps if the import/export restrictions were removed Palestine could support itself better. I guess that's another thing normal people think about Israel, that it restricts the economic growth of Palestine. So now we have normal people thinking Israel

maintains apartheid regimes,
steals,
commits war crimes,
wags the US,
doesn't keep its promises,
casts itself as a victim,
won't join courts because it will be found guilty,
imposes collective punishments on occupied territiories,
provokes wars of convenience,
is living a self centred fantasy where other people's views don't count,
restricts the economic growth of Palestine.

Yes, and let's compare this to Palestine. Let's face it, they don't WANT freedom for their people or anything of the sort. They want to kill all Jews and exert their power through Sharia law. They would be no different than ISIS or any other ME mess of a country.

Palestinian Authority Human Rights Violations Ignored by Media West