What do normal people - think of Israel?

[Mindful]

It is strange that some hamas useful idiots still try and point to separate roads. Sigh.

He wrote that, "a sweeping 74% majority is in favour of separate roads for Israelis and Palestinians in the West Bank". But the sentence that follows needs to be noted: 24% believed separate roads were "a good situation" and 54% believed they were "a necessary situation". Decoded, this gets to the heart of the issue of the separate roads which Israel has built for some settlements. Critics say this is apartheid. But as the 54% indicate, they see it as a security issue; that is, it is the (expensive and extravagant) way to counter drive-by and roadside shootings which have killed many settlers. Nor (and this is little understood) are the roads only for Jews: the cars allowed on it are those with Israeli black and yellow number plates, irrespective of whether the driver is an Israeli Jew or Arab; the barred cars are those with Palestinian green and white plates.

Israel has moved to the right but it is not an apartheid state Benjamin Pogrund Comment is free The Guardian

Maybe the Jews could just put up with being murdered like good Jews should?? Neveragain!!!

Greg

At this rate, "they" will all be over here soon. Must be boring for them.

 

[Mindful]

Normal people do not blow themselves up in order to mass murder civilians. Normal people do not use their own women and children as sand bags and for shields while launching unprovoked attacks against a sovereign State that has been most gracious and generous to their presence! I'd say Israel is doing the best she can do under extraordinary circumstances. Normal people do not think like you. I can tell you that right now. Israel is not a sick society. Israel is a healthy, vibrant prospering society trying to keep a sick society out of their midst. My advice to Israel is to send these Arabs back to their native lands of Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, and beyond. They do not belong in Gaza. They must go!

"Normal" people in this context is a pseudonym for unhealthy preoccupations with Jews.

 

[cnm]

Who's talking about Jews? This is about Israel.

 

[gtopa1]

Israel is mostly Jews plus Arabs. What does the Anti-Israel lobby have against Israeli Arabs??? It's not the Jews so it must be the Arabs they detest and loathe and want to push into the sea!!!

Stupid useful idiots!!

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Not sure about "normal" people, but the Likudnik President of Israel thinks the place is sick and in need of treatment

President Rivlin Time to admit that Israel is a sick society that needs treatment

Of course it is sick. There are some neighbours who would make anybody feel ill!!!

Greg

 

[cnm]

So where were we? Normal people think that Israel maintains apartheid regimes in the occupied territories, steals passports, land, water, etc, etc.

What else is there, have we done war crimes yet?

No?

Well if that hasn't been covered earlier it should be added to the list: Normal people think Israel commits war crimes.

 

[Mindful]

Normal people don't stalk people around Internet discussion boards.

 

[Phoenall]

So why the anger at Jews. Is it that you have "Survivors remorse" and think they should too??

Greg

Why would you think I have "anger at Jews", Gregory? What does criticism of Israeli foreign policy, have anything to do with Judaism? Why would a Catholic living in SoCal, waste any energy hating an entire group of people, that have nothing to do with his daily life? Why are you trying to turn a political discussion, into a religious one?

Never yet seen you post anything to do with Israeli Foreign policy, but have seen plenty of Jew Hatred, Anti Semitism and Nazi White Supremacism. And your hatred has nothing to do with religion, just your hatred of all things Jewish

 

[Phoenall]

What do normal people-think of Israel?

They think Israel blew its opportunity by running apartheid regimes in the occupied territories.

Maybe you can produce evidence of these "apartheid regimes" as not one single member of team Palestine has managed to yet. Don't forget that the west bank is under Military law in accordance with International Law

 

[Phoenall]

So where were we? Normal people think that Israel maintains apartheid regimes in the occupied territories, steals passports, land, water, etc, etc.

What else is there, have we done war crimes yet?

No?

Well if that hasn't been covered earlier it should be added to the list: Normal people think Israel commits war crimes.

And your evidence of all these "crimes" come from where exactly ?

 

[Mindful]

So where were we? Normal people think that Israel maintains apartheid regimes in the occupied territories, steals passports, land, water, etc, etc.

What else is there, have we done war crimes yet?

No?

Well if that hasn't been covered earlier it should be added to the list: Normal people think Israel commits war crimes.

And your evidence of all these "crimes" come from where exactly ?

Funny how he's shown up after Greg and I started posting here.

 

[Kondor3]

Then the other thing normal people think about Israel is that it steals things. Passports, land, water, etc etc...

 

[Billo_Really]

It is strange that some hamas useful idiots still try and point to separate roads. Sigh.

He wrote that, "a sweeping 74% majority is in favour of separate roads for Israelis and Palestinians in the West Bank". But the sentence that follows needs to be noted: 24% believed separate roads were "a good situation" and 54% believed they were "a necessary situation". Decoded, this gets to the heart of the issue of the separate roads which Israel has built for some settlements. Critics say this is apartheid. But as the 54% indicate, they see it as a security issue; that is, it is the (expensive and extravagant) way to counter drive-by and roadside shootings which have killed many settlers. Nor (and this is little understood) are the roads only for Jews: the cars allowed on it are those with Israeli black and yellow number plates, irrespective of whether the driver is an Israeli Jew or Arab; the barred cars are those with Palestinian green and white plates.

Israel has moved to the right but it is not an apartheid state Benjamin Pogrund Comment is free The Guardian

Maybe the Jews could just put up with being murdered like good Jews should?? Neveragain!!!

Greg

You don't consider yourself an Israeli useful idiot?

Israeli insurgents living in illegal settlements are legal targets.

 

[Shaam]

Sha'alu Shalom Yerushaliyim.

I just want there to be a day where Israel is no longer the hotbed of any conflict but a divine nation, where Jews of all backgrounds turn to Judaism and lead their lives with the spirit of HaShem (Baruch Adonai), achieving genuine peace and helping repair this broken world (tikkun olam) we dwell in.

 

[Billo_Really]

The operative word is "supposed". Israel has the right under UN Resolution 242.

According to one of the framers of the Resolution:

Eugene W. Rostow, JD, former US Undersecretary of State for political affairs, in an Oct. 21, 1991 New Republic commentary titled "Resolved: are the settlements legal? Israeli West Bank policies," wrote:
"Resolution 242, which as undersecretary of state for political affairs between 1966 and 1969 I helped produce, calls on the parties to make peace and allows Israel to administer the territories it occupied in 1967 until 'a just and lasting peace in the Middle East' is achieved. When such a peace is made, Israel is required to withdraw its armed forces 'from territories' it occupied during the Six-Day War--not from 'the' territories nor from 'all' the territories, but from some of the territories, which included the Sinai Desert, the West Bank, the Golan Heights, East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip."

Articles by the Late Eugene W. Rostow

Greg

Unfortunately, 242 doesn't say that. It doesn't say anything about "staying there until" a peace can be negotiated. It does say the Israeli's need to get the hell off that land ("cease all claims of state belligerency"). And it definitely doesn't allow the Israeli's to transfer a portion of their population to the territories they occupy. That would go against the entire spirit of IHL.

The settlements are illegal. Period. So are the apartheid roads and the Israeli insurgents living there. This is the position of the entire world and it has been this way for the last half-century. You would think after 50 years, you'd catch the ******* clue, this is not Israeli land and it never will be, Israeli land.

 

[Billo_Really]

Sha'alu Shalom Yerushaliyim.

I just want there to be a day where Israel is no longer the hotbed of any conflict but a divine nation, where Jews of all backgrounds turn to Judaism and lead their lives with the spirit of HaShem (Baruch Adonai), achieving genuine peace and helping repair this broken world (tikkun olam) we dwell in.

There is no peace, because the Israeli right will not allow peace.

 

[Kondor3]

Sha'alu Shalom Yerushaliyim.

I just want there to be a day where Israel is no longer the hotbed of any conflict but a divine nation, where Jews of all backgrounds turn to Judaism and lead their lives with the spirit of HaShem (Baruch Adonai), achieving genuine peace and helping repair this broken world (tikkun olam) we dwell in.

There is no peace, because the Israeli right will not allow peace.

There is no peace because the Arabs already have their share of Old (Mandate) Palestine - a.k.a. Jordan - and they refuse to leave the Jew's share of Old (Mandate) Palestine - a.k.a. Eretz Yisrael. The Reconquista continues apace. The Palestinians could save themselves a lot of trouble by moving back across their side of the line (into Jordan et al).

 

[Billo_Really]

Never yet seen you post anything to do with Israeli Foreign policy,

You only see what you want to see. You are the biggest liar at this website.

but have seen plenty of Jew Hatred, Anti Semitism and Nazi White Supremacism. And your hatred has nothing to do with religion, just your hatred of all things Jewish

Why would I hate Jews?

Not only is that a question you can't answer, it is a question you don't have the balls to answer!

 

[Billo_Really]

There is no peace because the Arabs already have their share of Old (Mandate) Palestine - a.k.a. Jordan - and they refuse to leave the Jew's share of Old (Mandate) Palestine - a.k.a. Eretz Yisrael. The Reconquista continues apace. The Palestinians could save themselves a lot of trouble by moving back across their side of the line (into Jordan et al).

And you need to grow up!

Your "might makes right" bullshit, has historically been a tragedy for anyone trying to use it. You don't see it, because you're an Israeli kiss-ass, with the mind of a 12 year old.

 

[Billo_Really]

And your evidence of all these "crimes" come from where exactly ?

Why do you ask questions when you know as soon as you get an answer, you're just gonna trash whatever source is used?