What Do Australians Feel About Guns and Gun Control?

[SaxonJackson]

Out of curiosity, do Australians wish they could own the guns of their own choosing? What are your thoughts on self-defense and defense against a tyrannical government? Also, are guns laws the same across all the various regions of Australia?

 

[Donald H]

Out of curiosity, do Australians wish they could own the guns of their own choosing? What are your thoughts on self-defense and defense against a tyrannical government? Also, are guns laws the same across all the various regions of Australia?

Can I answer the questions referring to Canada instead?

 

[bambu.]

Out of curiosity, do Australians wish they could own the guns of their own choosing? What are your thoughts on self-defense and defense against a tyrannical government? Also, are guns laws the same across all the various regions of Australia?

Gun laws are much the same across all states and territories of Australia.
No handguns, except for police and some security, cash in transit van officers for example.
No more auto and semi auto assault rifles/rifles, no more pump action shotguns.
Bolt action rifles only.
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Auto/semi auto rifles were banned by the federal govt at the urging of the majority of the People.
The Port Arthur Massacre / slaughter of diners at the Broad Arrow Cafe, including two little girls who ran from the cafe but who were chased and murdered...was the final straw...the horror too much for the minds of the public to bear.
Prime Minister John Howard stood tall, announced a ban, and govt buyback of existing weapons, including an amnesty.

Guns for self defence?
mmm, I see "six guns at 10 paces" outside pubs at closing time, and murders everywhere by angry people who now have to use fists.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Gun laws are much the same across all states and territories of Australia.
No handguns, except for police and some security, cash in transit van officers for example.
No more auto and semi auto assault rifles/rifles, no more pump action shotguns.
Bolt action rifles only.
×
Auto/semi auto rifles were banned by the federal govt at the urging of the majority of the People.
The Port Arthur Massacre / slaughter of diners at the Broad Arrow Cafe, including two little girls who ran from the cafe but who were chased and murdered...was the final straw...the horror too much for the minds of the public to bear.
Prime Minister John Howard stood tall, announced a ban, and govt buyback of existing weapons, including an amnesty.

Guns for self defence?
mmm, I see "six guns at 10 paces" outside pubs at closing time, and murders everywhere by angry people who now have to use fists.

Sad that the “men” of Australia relinquished their God-given right to protect themselves and their families from people with evil intent (whether the base, criminal types or the ones wearing suits in high places). Too bad there hadn't been some armed “men” at Port Arthur ready, willing, and able to protect themselves and those innocent victims from the shooters. All they are now are slaves to an all-powerful and fully armed government.

 

[bambu.]

Sad that the “men” of Australia relinquished their God-given right to protect themselves and their families from people with evil intent (whether the base, criminal types or the ones wearing suits in high places). Too bad there hadn't been some armed “men” at Port Arthur ready, willing, and able to protect themselves and those innocent victims from the shooters. All they are now are slaves to an all-powerful and fully armed government.

Nah.
Nothing is perfect...but the men of Australia decided that removing auto, semi auto, and pump action rifles/shotguns from society was their safest option for being able to live their best family lives.
Men arming themselves to fight the govt man?
Fantasy methinks.

Handguns were already banned.
Disarm everyone, make anyone wanting to own a gun apply thru the police, submitting an application for consideration...and if approved paying a substantial annual licence fee, installing an approved gun safe, and submitting to regular inspections.
Live in city suburbia, you might be battling to be granted a gun licence.
Possess guns without a licence...big trouble for you if you get caught.
Most guns are on farms, or in possession of rural townsfolk who use them on farms (farms are often thousands of acres) for vermin control/hunting.

 

[bambu.]

Nah.
Nothing is perfect...but the men of Australia decided that removing auto, semi auto, and pump action rifles/shotguns from society was their safest option for being able to live their best family lives.
Men arming themselves to fight the govt man?
Fantasy methinks.

Handguns were already banned.
Disarm everyone, make anyone wanting to own a gun apply thru the police, submitting an application for consideration...and if approved paying a substantial annual licence fee, installing an approved gun safe, and submitting to regular inspections.
Live in city suburbia, you might be battling to be granted a gun licence.
Possess guns without a licence...big trouble for you if you get caught.
Most guns are on farms, or in possession of rural townsfolk who use them on farms (farms are often thousands of acres) for vermin control/hunting.

 

[Blues Man]

Nah.
Nothing is perfect...but the men of Australia decided that removing auto, semi auto, and pump action rifles/shotguns from society was their safest option for being able to live their best family lives.
Men arming themselves to fight the govt man?
Fantasy methinks.

Handguns were already banned.
Disarm everyone, make anyone wanting to own a gun apply thru the police, submitting an application for consideration...and if approved paying a substantial annual licence fee, installing an approved gun safe, and submitting to regular inspections.
Live in city suburbia, you might be battling to be granted a gun licence.
Possess guns without a licence...big trouble for you if you get caught.
Most guns are on farms, or in possession of rural townsfolk who use them on farms (farms are often thousands of acres) for vermin control/hunting.

This assumes that a person will never be a danger to any other person and we all know this is false

 

[SaxonJackson]

Nah.
Nothing is perfect...but the men of Australia decided that removing auto, semi auto, and pump action rifles/shotguns from society was their safest option for being able to live their best family lives.
Men arming themselves to fight the govt man?
Fantasy methinks.

Handguns were already banned.
Disarm everyone, make anyone wanting to own a gun apply thru the police, submitting an application for consideration...and if approved paying a substantial annual licence fee, installing an approved gun safe, and submitting to regular inspections.
Live in city suburbia, you might be battling to be granted a gun licence.
Possess guns without a licence...big trouble for you if you get caught.
Most guns are on farms, or in possession of rural townsfolk who use them on farms (farms are often thousands of acres) for vermin control/hunting.

"Men" don't seek safety. MEN are interested in danger and risk, and they're especially interested in protecting their families from those dangers and risks. Real men know that danger exists in the world and that if an evil person means you harm, they'll use a knife or a rock or a club if they can't use a gun.

 

[bambu.]

This assumes that a person will never be a danger to any other person and we all know this is false

The Port Arthur Massacre was the final straw.
Before that was The Strathfield Massacre in a shopping mall (assault rifle), The Hoddle St Massacre (assault rifle),...too many massacres...bye bye assault rifles.. bye bye massacres.
There are still shooting deaths with rogue auto/semi auto weapons...but they are very rare...well except in SW Sydney, where crime families are gunning down each other in suburbia in broad daylight.

 

[Blues Man]

The Port Arthur Massacre was the final straw.
Before that was The Strathfield Massacre in a shopping mall (assault rifle), The Hoddle St Massacre (assault rifle),...too many massacres...bye bye assault rifles.. bye bye massacres.
There are still shooting deaths with rogue auto/semi auto weapons...but they are very rare...well except in SW Sydney, where crime families are gunning down each other in suburbia in broad daylight

You are still assuming that no person will ever pose a threat to another person when you advocate for disarming people.

It's false premise.

Less than 1% of all murders in the US occur in mass shootings by definition that makes it a rare event. So basing all laws on the rare events assumes that the other events that happen far more frequently are unimportant.

 

[Desperado]

Who cares what Australia thinks, We are not Australia

 

[Blues Man]

Who cares what Australia thinks, We are not Australia

Exactly and who cares what Australians or any other foreigner thinks of the US

I don't give a single fuck what any foreigners think of me

 

[bambu.]

Who cares what Australia thinks, We are not Australia

The thread, not started by me, was just being replied to.

 

[Desperado]

The thread, not started by me, was just being replied to.

The response was not aimed at you it was just a responce to the title of the thread

 

[bambu.]

The response was not aimed at you it was just a responce to the title of the thread

Protesters in America, nearly every time there is a school massacre, refer to Australia's gun laws as a shining example of why, they believe, assault rifles should be banned in America.

 

[bambu.]

In the interest of knowledge across the forums here, I post this here as well as in another thread:

In Australia, in 2017, there were 3.6 million registered/reported guns.

3.6 million.

Guns aren't banned, just some guns were banned, assault rifles mainly...[handguns were banned long ago, but bank staff still had them until the end of the 1980s, when physical barriers replaced them, bullet proof screens mainly].

 

[Captain Caveman]

Sad that the “men” of Australia relinquished their God-given right to protect themselves and their families from people with evil intent (whether the base, criminal types or the ones wearing suits in high places). Too bad there hadn't been some armed “men” at Port Arthur ready, willing, and able to protect themselves and those innocent victims from the shooters. All they are now are slaves to an all-powerful and fully armed government.

That's a brain dead American fallacy. Harvard debunked that myth, as well as the Violence Policy Centre -

Self-Defense Gun Use is Rare, New Violence Policy Center Study Confirms, Violence Policy Center

For Release: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Washington, DC — New research from the Violence Policy Center (VPC) confirms that, contrary to what the...

vpc.org

 

[Deplorable Yankee]