What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[danielpalos]

so far all we have learned from the right wing is that Only the general badfare qualifies as the general welfare.

and from you, the general lazyfare and general stealfare qualifies as the general welfare, as well as anything the all-powerful and unchallenged legislature can imagine.

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if it promotes the general welfare; it works. besides, unemployment compensation has already proven to engender a positive multiplier effect on our economy.

more pig latin. thanks I wondered what happened to it.

what part don't you understand? why claim any authority on what could happen to our economy if you refuse to establish Any credibility.

you talking stupid doesn't justify jumping into a debate unless you debate in english.

in Other Words, you want to claim "chicken little" economics, with no credibility to argue the issues.

 

[mikegriffith1]

The Constitution says "promote the general welfare," not fund it, and they certainly were not thinking of the massive federal giveaway programs that we now have.

 

[danielpalos]

If you voted for Trump there’s a good chance you’re a lot like me with regard to why....I voted for him on two policies almost exclusively...First and foremost on how he would deal with illegal Mexicans and the border and second on how he would yank lowlifes off the Democrat induced welfare plantation.
Anyhoo, as we approach the point where welfare reform will be visited I ask for your opinions on EXACTLY what you think our founders meant when they used the phrase “GENERAL WELFARE” in the constitution?

Attention all Smartest Guys In The Room, and legal scholars:
Please spare us the case citations such as the U.S. vs Butler case and the like. I’m interested in YOUR opinions.

Great question!

I think it refers to the population in general, so not individual entitlement programs, but rather the facilitation of infrastructure, protection of natural resources (air quality, water resources, etc). Perhaps to provide aide to areas and populations within our borders when disasters strike.

general means comprehensive, in this context. not every Thing can be a "national security issue".

 

[g5000]

The Democrats take our money to feed the poor. They are pretty straightforward about it.

The Republicans are far sneakier. They interfere in the markets to make things costlier, and raise your tax rates in order to take your money and give it to rich people.

The Rube Herd is too clueless and innumerate to understand how the Republican method of robbery works.

You have to pay more to buy your house because of the MID.

The last thing the home builders want is for the MID to go away. That would bring down the cost of houses.

You pay more for your house, which means you have to borrow more money. The bankers profit off that extra money you have to borrow.

You pay more for your house, and so realtors and brokers get bigger commissions.

Pseudocons think they are conservatives and yet they defend this thievery tooth and nail.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The Democrats take our money to feed the poor. They are pretty straightforward about it.

The Republicans are far sneakier. They interfere in the markets to make things costlier, and raise your tax rates in order to take your money and give it to rich people.

The Rube Herd is too clueless and innumerate to understand how the Republican method of robbery works.

They dont feed jack. They keep them in perpetual poverty. Its beyond vile.

 

[danielpalos]

The Constitution says "promote the general welfare," not fund it, and they certainly were not thinking of the massive federal giveaway programs that we now have.

there is no appeal to ignorance the law.

 

[g5000]

Why Now's the Time to Kill the Mortgage Interest Deduction

Proponents of the deduction argue that it's a key component to keeping home prices up.

Do you hear that? An open admission the deduction drives up the cost of housing!

As much as homebuilders argue that eliminating the deduction would hurt them, economists agree that the biggest impact would be on the highest-priced homes, with more reasonably priced real estate seeing little or no impact from getting rid of the deduction.

Homebuilders whining about losing their government tit.

 

[eagle1462010]

The Democrats take our money to feed the poor. They are pretty straightforward about it.

The Republicans are far sneakier. They interfere in the markets to make things costlier, and raise your tax rates in order to take your money and give it to rich people.

The Rube Herd is too clueless and innumerate to understand how the Republican method of robbery works.

They dont feed jack. They keep them in perpetual poverty. Its beyond vile.

Highest State taxes in the country........Liberal utopia California........everything costs more there........and then they go..............WHY ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN TENTS.......

Brain damage.

 

[danielpalos]

The Democrats take our money to feed the poor. They are pretty straightforward about it.

The Republicans are far sneakier. They interfere in the markets to make things costlier, and raise your tax rates in order to take your money and give it to rich people.

The Rube Herd is too clueless and innumerate to understand how the Republican method of robbery works.

They dont feed jack. They keep them in perpetual poverty. Its beyond vile.

lol. the left is for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

 

[danielpalos]

The Democrats take our money to feed the poor. They are pretty straightforward about it.

The Republicans are far sneakier. They interfere in the markets to make things costlier, and raise your tax rates in order to take your money and give it to rich people.

The Rube Herd is too clueless and innumerate to understand how the Republican method of robbery works.

They dont feed jack. They keep them in perpetual poverty. Its beyond vile.

Highest State taxes in the country........Liberal utopia California........everything costs more there........and then they go..............WHY ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN TENTS.......

Brain damage.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a cost of living adjustment for Labor.

 

[jc456]

if it promotes the general welfare; it works. besides, unemployment compensation has already proven to engender a positive multiplier effect on our economy.

That was my point earlier that you shat on because you are incapable of proper reasoning.

If Congress in its shitty "wisdom" decides that killing off half the population promotes general welfare, Congress has that power, right?

lol. there is no power to provide for the general badfare only the general welfare; the right wing, Never gets it.

well we know you have no idea what you're talking about, you have pigs walking around and you're talken to em.

the pigs don't get it.

neither do we. general is not individual.

 

[Darkwind]

the left has to have solutions; echelon order really is the order of the day with the right wing.

I figured that might be a shock, sorry for the bad news. On the upside, the economy is doing well enough even for you to get a job. McDonalds, Walmart, Burger King, any of those catch your interest?

There is nothing shameful about working at Walmart or BK or McDonalds.

But in actuality, manufacturing and mining jobs are also picking up.

The Trump Economy is superb, and that's why our Liberal Friends are so anxious to change the topic to the caravan or to the bombs or whatever. If the libs could destroy the economy, Soros wouldn't need to orchestrate a bombing hoax

cognitive dissonance is what the right wing is best at.

tax cut economics are simply unsustainable.

Certainly not sustainable if you don't have a job.

it is natural for capitalism to have a rate of unemployment.

No, however; it is natural for any society to have its share of malcontents and layabouts. The chronic unemployed is not a function of capitalism, but of a permissive society.

 

[jc456]

and from you, the general lazyfare and general stealfare qualifies as the general welfare, as well as anything the all-powerful and unchallenged legislature can imagine.

.

if it promotes the general welfare; it works. besides, unemployment compensation has already proven to engender a positive multiplier effect on our economy.

more pig latin. thanks I wondered what happened to it.

what part don't you understand? why claim any authority on what could happen to our economy if you refuse to establish Any credibility.

you talking stupid doesn't justify jumping into a debate unless you debate in english.

in Other Words, you want to claim "chicken little" economics, with no credibility to argue the issues.

my sky isn't falling.

 

[danielpalos]

if it promotes the general welfare; it works. besides, unemployment compensation has already proven to engender a positive multiplier effect on our economy.

That was my point earlier that you shat on because you are incapable of proper reasoning.

If Congress in its shitty "wisdom" decides that killing off half the population promotes general welfare, Congress has that power, right?

lol. there is no power to provide for the general badfare only the general welfare; the right wing, Never gets it.

well we know you have no idea what you're talking about, you have pigs walking around and you're talken to em.

the pigs don't get it.

neither do we. general is not individual.

general is Comprehensive in this context.

 

[danielpalos]

I figured that might be a shock, sorry for the bad news. On the upside, the economy is doing well enough even for you to get a job. McDonalds, Walmart, Burger King, any of those catch your interest?

There is nothing shameful about working at Walmart or BK or McDonalds.

But in actuality, manufacturing and mining jobs are also picking up.

The Trump Economy is superb, and that's why our Liberal Friends are so anxious to change the topic to the caravan or to the bombs or whatever. If the libs could destroy the economy, Soros wouldn't need to orchestrate a bombing hoax

cognitive dissonance is what the right wing is best at.

tax cut economics are simply unsustainable.

Certainly not sustainable if you don't have a job.

it is natural for capitalism to have a rate of unemployment.

No, however; it is natural for any society to have its share of malcontents and layabouts. The chronic unemployed is not a function of capitalism, but of a permissive society.

Yes, it is. Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.

 

[eagle1462010]

The Democrats take our money to feed the poor. They are pretty straightforward about it.

The Republicans are far sneakier. They interfere in the markets to make things costlier, and raise your tax rates in order to take your money and give it to rich people.

The Rube Herd is too clueless and innumerate to understand how the Republican method of robbery works.

They dont feed jack. They keep them in perpetual poverty. Its beyond vile.

Highest State taxes in the country........Liberal utopia California........everything costs more there........and then they go..............WHY ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN TENTS.......

Brain damage.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a cost of living adjustment for Labor.

Your never ending story........Dems in California...........hmmmm how to explain it.

Get the same arsonist that burns down your home to come back to you and try and help you rebuild your home....makes so much sense............

 

[danielpalos]

if it promotes the general welfare; it works. besides, unemployment compensation has already proven to engender a positive multiplier effect on our economy.

more pig latin. thanks I wondered what happened to it.

what part don't you understand? why claim any authority on what could happen to our economy if you refuse to establish Any credibility.

you talking stupid doesn't justify jumping into a debate unless you debate in english.

in Other Words, you want to claim "chicken little" economics, with no credibility to argue the issues.

my sky isn't falling.

only the Other Peoples'?

 

[jc456]

If you voted for Trump there’s a good chance you’re a lot like me with regard to why....I voted for him on two policies almost exclusively...First and foremost on how he would deal with illegal Mexicans and the border and second on how he would yank lowlifes off the Democrat induced welfare plantation.
Anyhoo, as we approach the point where welfare reform will be visited I ask for your opinions on EXACTLY what you think our founders meant when they used the phrase “GENERAL WELFARE” in the constitution?

Attention all Smartest Guys In The Room, and legal scholars:
Please spare us the case citations such as the U.S. vs Butler case and the like. I’m interested in YOUR opinions.

Great question!

I think it refers to the population in general, so not individual entitlement programs, but rather the facilitation of infrastructure, protection of natural resources (air quality, water resources, etc). Perhaps to provide aide to areas and populations within our borders when disasters strike.

general means comprehensive, in this context. not every Thing can be a "national security issue".

give your definition of comprehensive.

 

[jc456]

That was my point earlier that you shat on because you are incapable of proper reasoning.

If Congress in its shitty "wisdom" decides that killing off half the population promotes general welfare, Congress has that power, right?

lol. there is no power to provide for the general badfare only the general welfare; the right wing, Never gets it.

well we know you have no idea what you're talking about, you have pigs walking around and you're talken to em.

the pigs don't get it.

neither do we. general is not individual.

general is Comprehensive in this context.

give your definition of comprehensive.

 

[danielpalos]

The Democrats take our money to feed the poor. They are pretty straightforward about it.

The Republicans are far sneakier. They interfere in the markets to make things costlier, and raise your tax rates in order to take your money and give it to rich people.

The Rube Herd is too clueless and innumerate to understand how the Republican method of robbery works.

They dont feed jack. They keep them in perpetual poverty. Its beyond vile.

Highest State taxes in the country........Liberal utopia California........everything costs more there........and then they go..............WHY ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN TENTS.......

Brain damage.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a cost of living adjustment for Labor.

Your never ending story........Dems in California...........hmmmm how to explain it.

Get the same arsonist that burns down your home to come back to you and try and help you rebuild your home....makes so much sense............

fallacy of false cause; the right wing never gets it. higher paid labor pays more in local taxes and payroll taxes and create more in demand.