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Other threads on this venue have addressed Ukranian casualties from this conflict.
Other threads on this venue have addressed the financial cost to the U.S., to the UK, to Germany, to NATO.
But there's not been much coverage of Russia's payments....in blood.
But today's New York Times does offer us some peek into the price tag. Albeit, the Times does a little CYA with the disclaimer that in war....casualty figures are always a challenge to measure, either by third parties (like news organizations, or NGO's) or by the opposing side.
Nonetheless, there ARE serious-minded, educated, experienced professionals who do deep dive analysis of reports and photos to come up with 'best practices' estimates of dead guys, injured guys, destroyed stuff, etc.
So the Times this morning says this:
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WASHINGTON — The number of Russian troops killed and wounded in Ukraine is approaching 200,000, a stark symbol of just how badly President Vladimir V. Putin’s invasion has gone, according to American and other Western officials.
While the officials caution that casualties are notoriously difficult to estimate, particularly because Moscow is believed to routinely undercount its war dead and injured, they say the slaughter from fighting in and around the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut and the town of Soledar has ballooned what was already a heavy toll.
With Moscow desperate for a major battlefield victory and viewing Bakhmut as the key to seizing the entire eastern Donbas area, the Russian military has sent poorly trained recruits and former convicts to the front lines, straight into the path of Ukrainian shelling and machine guns. The result, American officials say, has been hundreds of troops killed or injured a day.
Russia analysts say that the loss of life is unlikely to be a deterrent to Mr. Putin’s war aims. He has no political opposition at home and has framed the war as the kind of struggle the country faced in World War II, when more than 8 million Soviet troops died. U.S. officials have said that they believe that Mr. Putin can sustain hundreds of thousands of casualties in Ukraine, although higher numbers could cut into his political support.
Ukraine’s casualty figures are also difficult to ascertain, given Kyiv’s reluctance to disclose its own wartime losses.
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That's just a taster. If you want the whole enchilada....here's the link:
Soaring Death Toll Gives Grim Insight Into Russian Tactics
Other threads on this venue have addressed the financial cost to the U.S., to the UK, to Germany, to NATO.
But there's not been much coverage of Russia's payments....in blood.
But today's New York Times does offer us some peek into the price tag. Albeit, the Times does a little CYA with the disclaimer that in war....casualty figures are always a challenge to measure, either by third parties (like news organizations, or NGO's) or by the opposing side.
Nonetheless, there ARE serious-minded, educated, experienced professionals who do deep dive analysis of reports and photos to come up with 'best practices' estimates of dead guys, injured guys, destroyed stuff, etc.
So the Times this morning says this:
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Soaring Death Toll Gives Grim Insight Into Russian Tactics
Moscow is sending poorly trained recruits, including convicts, to the front lines in eastern Ukraine to pave the way for more seasoned fighters, U.S. and allied officials say.WASHINGTON — The number of Russian troops killed and wounded in Ukraine is approaching 200,000, a stark symbol of just how badly President Vladimir V. Putin’s invasion has gone, according to American and other Western officials.
While the officials caution that casualties are notoriously difficult to estimate, particularly because Moscow is believed to routinely undercount its war dead and injured, they say the slaughter from fighting in and around the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut and the town of Soledar has ballooned what was already a heavy toll.
With Moscow desperate for a major battlefield victory and viewing Bakhmut as the key to seizing the entire eastern Donbas area, the Russian military has sent poorly trained recruits and former convicts to the front lines, straight into the path of Ukrainian shelling and machine guns. The result, American officials say, has been hundreds of troops killed or injured a day.
Russia analysts say that the loss of life is unlikely to be a deterrent to Mr. Putin’s war aims. He has no political opposition at home and has framed the war as the kind of struggle the country faced in World War II, when more than 8 million Soviet troops died. U.S. officials have said that they believe that Mr. Putin can sustain hundreds of thousands of casualties in Ukraine, although higher numbers could cut into his political support.
Ukraine’s casualty figures are also difficult to ascertain, given Kyiv’s reluctance to disclose its own wartime losses.
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That's just a taster. If you want the whole enchilada....here's the link:
Soaring Death Toll Gives Grim Insight Into Russian Tactics
