What Constitutes a "Right?"

[Setarcos]

Does PubliusInfinitum always get sidetracked with sad partisan attacks?

I've never engaged in a sad partisan attack. I don't give a red rats ass what party you attend... but if advance left-think in my presence... you're apt to leave the party in tears; with your most closely held beliefs having been exposed as addle-minded bullshit.

So I'l take my beliefs in women's suffrage and racial equality where such crazy ideas are appreciated

Are right-wingers retarded or do retards become right-wingers?

 

[Setarcos]

Society doesn't take away rights either.

The right to own slaves was revoked in the U.S.

It was never a right retard! Are you paying attention to what I'm saying?

You should tell that to God, the Founding Fathers, and the rest of the authorities you appeal to.

No need, you haven't really demonstrated the validity of your original point.

lol

It is you who has the burden of proof. Every argument you've forwarded has amounted to nihil

Rights can be agreed upon. Those which can be agreed upon by all are natural rights.

Wrong. look up the definitions of positive and natural rights, since you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Why don't you enlighten me instead?
Please think before you post.[/QUOTE]



Natural Rights: Non-existent imagined things oft cited in rhetoric.

Poitive rights: Those privileges protected by law. Examples include freedom of speech, bearing arms, and the right to an attorney.

 

[Setarcos]

It was never a right retard! Are you paying attention to what I'm saying?


No need, you haven't really demonstrated the validity of your original point.



Why don't you enlighten me instead?
Please think before you post.

That doesn't seem to be an option...

What? you people thinking before you post? Yeah, that's true with the exception of Diuretic and Intense.

Diuretic had his assertion torn asunder by another poster some pages back after (s)he tried arguing for objective moral values.

 

[Setarcos]

87 Pages of Assault of Inalienable Rights by Statists that would Prefer a Government permission slip for every aspect of Our Lives. Now Science Nazi's saying we can **** up your conscience too with bullets to the brain, Electro-Shock, carving it up for fun and research, and look you're dead, and can't complain, so it's obviously not a Right. Nothing is a Right Because Nothing Is Immune to being Tampered with or Fucked With. So Government and Science has No Rights Either because they are not invulnerable. There is no right or wrong, no morality because we are not bullet proof. What the **** kind of retarded logic is this you mind dead pathetic Jackass Retards. There I feel better now. The Universe is balanced again, peace is restored. Get some meaning in your life.

IN accordance with Poe's law, this thread is ended and your concession of defeat is accepted.

 

[Setarcos]

What is the Source of that Moral Compass ...Grass-hopper????

Noone. It was forged by evolutionary pressures and later honed through philosophy.

Evolution is a natural process dumbass. You're contradicting yourself.

YOu can demonstrate no contradiction because there is no contradiction.

 

[Setarcos]

rights: those things to which people are naturally entitled

demonstrate. You've only highlighted your own failnigs


define: free

Note: certain liberties are rights. Namely those which don't deprive others of their rights.

demonstrate

Why don't you demonstrate something? Not one of your excessively abrasive posts has demonstrated that any of your scarce original ideas have any support whatsoever. Demonstrate, and then I will demonstrate in kind. This is a two way conversation. Your belief that you're the smartest person here doesn't gain you any credibility with me.

You made the assertion that a thing exists; you bear the burden of proof

 

[Setarcos]

Please Grace us with the Last Evolutionary advancement of the Human Race? Details please.

I'll do you two better: I'll give you the last three Evolutionary advancements.

1. herding animals (pastoralism)
2. growing crops for consumption and storage (sedentary agriculture)
3. building machines to perform repetitive tasks (industrialism)

These are behavioral. Let me know if You can Grow gills or Fly unaided.

Migration is behavioral, too

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Does PubliusInfinitum always get sidetracked with sad partisan attacks?

I've never engaged in a sad partisan attack. I don't give a red rats ass what party you attend... but if advance left-think in my presence... you're apt to leave the party in tears; with your most closely held beliefs having been exposed as addle-minded bullshit.

So I'l take my beliefs in women's suffrage and racial equality where such crazy ideas are appreciated

Are right-wingers retarded or do retards become right-wingers?

ROFLMNAO...

Do what? Did this idiot just espouse women's suffrage and racial equality as 'leftist'?

Sweet MOTHER THAT'S HYSTERICAL!

Two notions which owe their existance to Judea-Christian unalienable rights... which this jack-ass REJECTS!

Someone get MSNBC on the horn and see what it would take to crank their forum back up; this is the message-board equivilent of Castro emptying his asylums...

 

[Setarcos]

I've never engaged in a sad partisan attack. I don't give a red rats ass what party you attend... but if advance left-think in my presence... you're apt to leave the party in tears; with your most closely held beliefs having been exposed as addle-minded bullshit.

So I'l take my beliefs in women's suffrage and racial equality where such crazy ideas are appreciated

Are right-wingers retarded or do retards become right-wingers?

ROFLMNAO...

Do what? Did this idiot just espouse women's suffrage and racial equality as 'leftist'?

Sweet MOTHER THAT'S HYSTERICAL!

Two notions which owe their existance to Judea-Christian unalienable rights...

bullet "And a man will choose...any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman...Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die" Ecclesiasticus, 25:18, 19 & 33. 1

bullet "And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her." Ecclesiastes 7:26


"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)

"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5)

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)

"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)


However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Racism's roots in the Bible | Opinion | theGrio


you were saying?

 

[rubberhead]

The right to own slaves was revoked in the U.S.

It was never a right retard! Are you paying attention to what I'm saying?

You should tell that to God, the Founding Fathers, and the rest of the authorities you appeal to.




lol

It is you who has the burden of proof. Every argument you've forwarded has amounted to nihil

Rights can be agreed upon. Those which can be agreed upon by all are natural rights.

Wrong. look up the definitions of positive and natural rights, since you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Why don't you enlighten me instead?

Please think before you post.

Natural Rights: Non-existent imagined things oft cited in rhetoric.

Poitive rights: Those privileges protected by law. Examples include freedom of speech, bearing arms, and the right to an attorney.

ignored! You seem to have nothing interesting or relevant to say. I'm not interested in finding out how much of an ass you can act like on an internet forum.

 

[Setarcos]

Your concession is noted.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

So I'l take my beliefs in women's suffrage and racial equality where such crazy ideas are appreciated

Are right-wingers retarded or do retards become right-wingers?

ROFLMNAO...

Do what? Did this idiot just espouse women's suffrage and racial equality as 'leftist'?

Sweet MOTHER THAT'S HYSTERICAL!

Two notions which owe their existance to Judea-Christian unalienable rights...

bullet "And a man will choose...any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman...Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die" Ecclesiasticus, 25:18, 19 & 33. 1

bullet "And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her." Ecclesiastes 7:26


"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)

"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5)

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)

"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)


However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Racism's roots in the Bible | Opinion | theGrio


you were saying?

Oh look kids... it's quotes from the bible, cleved from their context and their meaning; culled from websites dedicated to discrediting the scriptures, by people who reject the very existance of God... thus the holy nature of the scriptures.

How positively unique... How shall we face the world...

"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten so, so that man should live..." John 3:16.


Ya see witless... that's out of New Testament. It's indicative of the new law... which doesn't set aside the old law; but clarifies it.


Being a slave, doesn't change one's right to one's life.. Nor does it strip one of their responsibilities... Same with being female...


Also, menstruation; particularly in the wake of child-birth is a fact; the scriptures refers to such as 'unclean'; thus representing something to be avoided. Now I'm thinking that God could have gone into a biology lesson... describing microbes, bacteria... the whole hazards associated with exposure to blood and such.

But I suspect he just opted to keep it simple; and given the whole Eve thing... he also might have still been fairly pissed at the fems... so he dogged' em for a little while longer.

I mean I've some experience with 'em... As it happens, I own a couple of 'em myself; having given one away already... and they can be a hassle; so I can certainly understand that.

But while God seemed to favor the Jews early on; he still endowed others with life; and while he may have endorsed the ownership of the others; it's worth noting that he tended to also endorse the ownership of Jews for a few while, as well; which he inevitably lead to freedom... which FTR: they are presently fighting to maintain.

God can be a real hardass... as you're no doubt going to discover in the blink of an eye... when you're standing for your final accounting; part and parcel of which, will be this moment where you sought to set distance between God and his flock through the deceptive practice noted above.

But you be sure to ask him about the dichotomy of human rights and that whole slavery thing... assuming there's a 'Debate' element to that accounting; I'm sure that your keen insights will be at the core of a looming change in the universal laws of nature.

Hey... You know... There's a chance that you may even get a run at bumping God from his position... given that you've implied a whole knowledge of every fact and principle of the universe through the expanse of time and space.

OH! Wait!... I recall that someone's already taken a pass at that, and I think that things been settled... perhaps you're already working for that guy.

Ya know... given the evidence; I think that's what's happening here.

Let's see... you use fallacious reasoning to advance sophisticated arguments for the purpose of deception...

WOW! Why it DOES seem like you're working for the deceiver...

MAN! Now I wonder if there's a downside to that?

 

[Intense]

87 Pages of Assault of Inalienable Rights by Statists that would Prefer a Government permission slip for every aspect of Our Lives. Now Science Nazi's saying we can **** up your conscience too with bullets to the brain, Electro-Shock, carving it up for fun and research, and look you're dead, and can't complain, so it's obviously not a Right. Nothing is a Right Because Nothing Is Immune to being Tampered with or Fucked With. So Government and Science has No Rights Either because they are not invulnerable. There is no right or wrong, no morality because we are not bullet proof. What the **** kind of retarded logic is this you mind dead pathetic Jackass Retards. There I feel better now. The Universe is balanced again, peace is restored. Get some meaning in your life.

IN accordance with Poe's law, this thread is ended and your concession of defeat is accepted.

No Shit Head, the Debate is not ended, and there will be no concession. Every Thought, Word, Action, even Inaction, or Pause I take is on My Terms, not Your's, not The State's, My Terms. That is Evidence of Inalienable Right, of Natural Right, of Natural Law.

My Conscience is My Own Jackass. Someday, wallowing in the Shit You Created, You may find Yours. I hope that You do. Until then, keep spinning those wheels, doing the bidding of others, for reasons beyond You. Know though that You are easily replaced, so walk real lightly around Your Betters. Who is the Slave here Ass wipe? You are. Unable to claim Your Birth Right. Enjoy Your Prison, I'll enjoy My Liberty.

The only waste here besides My Time, is What You spent on Your education. You a Moral **** Head.

 

[Intense]

Noone. It was forged by evolutionary pressures and later honed through philosophy.

Evolution is a natural process dumbass. You're contradicting yourself.

YOu can demonstrate no contradiction because there is no contradiction.

You have yet to demonstrate Reason or Intelligence.

 

[Intense]

demonstrate. You've only highlighted your own failnigs


define: free


demonstrate

Why don't you demonstrate something? Not one of your excessively abrasive posts has demonstrated that any of your scarce original ideas have any support whatsoever. Demonstrate, and then I will demonstrate in kind. This is a two way conversation. Your belief that you're the smartest person here doesn't gain you any credibility with me.

You made the assertion that a thing exists; you bear the burden of proof

Free.

1). The Value of Your Effort, Labor , Contribution. What should be written in the Dollar Amount of Your Paycheck, Setarcos. We should All receive Merit Pay.

2). Range of Thought, word, ability, action, pause. Self Will. These attributes are not without limit, they do develop in most.

 

[Intense]

So I'l take my beliefs in women's suffrage and racial equality where such crazy ideas are appreciated

Are right-wingers retarded or do retards become right-wingers?

ROFLMNAO...

Do what? Did this idiot just espouse women's suffrage and racial equality as 'leftist'?

Sweet MOTHER THAT'S HYSTERICAL!

Two notions which owe their existance to Judea-Christian unalienable rights...

bullet "And a man will choose...any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman...Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die" Ecclesiasticus, 25:18, 19 & 33. 1

bullet "And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her." Ecclesiastes 7:26


"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)

"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5)

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)

"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)


However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Racism's roots in the Bible | Opinion | theGrio


you were saying?

First, You are not debating with fundamentalists here. That would make this the wrong audience for this Lecture Professor.

Second, Why not go to Hammurabi's Code, if You really want to play the Totalitarian Dictator with sensitive feelings, and discuss the beginning of Statist Dogma, and inequal administration of justice, and prejudice. You blame the Bible for Racism. I blame Human Nature and Behavior.

Modern Day Christianity follows two major Commandments, do you even know what they are? John Locke, Madison, Jefferson, Thoreau, King, spoke on Conscience Directing Individual action, not dogma, not tradition. I'm aware that You have no direct experience here, that is evident. My hope is that in the near future Your lips stop moving long enough, that the collateral damage you do to existence slows enough, that the voices in your head quiet enough, that you may experience an original thought, awaken to the conscience within. Until then we will carry your load. The blind do not lead well. You are lost again.

 

[rubberhead]

Setarcos is one for the ignore list I'm afraid. It's not worth trying to inform him. He's not here to think about new ideas, he's here to jam his ideas down your throat in the most abrasive and pugnacious way possible. He's just angry that biological imperative dictates that he can't jerk-off more than 10 times a day.

 

[Intense]

Setarcos is one for the ignore list I'm afraid. It's not worth trying to inform him. He's not here to think about new ideas, he's here to jam his ideas down your throat in the most abrasive and pugnacious way possible. He's just angry that biological imperative dictates that he can't jerk-off more than 10 times a day.

I hear You. I look at it as an exercise in development and ability. I know it's part of the indoctrination, a robot tool, a Defense Attorney tactic to plant chaos and confuse a rational Jury, thats why it is important to be able to take the hits standing, and hold focus, under fire. Imagine the World having to survive without His input for so long, only now are we graced with it and saved from ourselves.

Some Day Setarcos will make contact with the Inner Setarcos, the Conscience of Setarcos, and I might be interested in His Own, not Borrowed, Perspective.

 

[Setarcos]

But I suspect he just opted to keep it simple; and given the whole Eve thing... he also might have still been fairly pissed at the fems... so he dogged' em for a little while longer.

So you admit that your god is a misogynist.

I mean I've some experience with 'em... As it happens, I own a couple of 'em myself; having given one away already... and they can be a hassle; so I can certainly understand that.

Nice evasion, but you never addressed any other the texts. I accept your concession.

 

[Setarcos]

You a Moral **** Head.

Such a compelling argument