What Complete Nonsense

[J.E.D]

Exactly, there is no ban and the courts will not allow one to be

There wasn't one proposed.

again, what ban?

Do you have a different name for the ban? What do the right wingers prefer to call it

Has Trump submitted an EO banning anyone?

What do his EOs request?

If no one is banned, then anyone would be allowed to enter the country at any time- correctamundo?

He called for a temporary halt.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/25/us/politics/document-Trump-EO-Draft-on-Refugees.html

Not a ban.

Nothing about religion, but you knew that, right?

Or do you only read the talking points you get emailed daily?

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion when the evidence is out there in the form of campaign speeches, sound bites and twitter rants. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut, and he doesn't understand how our system works.

 

[Auld Phart]

Its not about the length of the ban, its about banning a religion.

Okay, well why don't you post the EO right here and now and point out to us where religion is mentioned

If you go back to his many comments during the primaries, religion was mentioned. Most likely the appellate court judges took this into account

December 2015
The real estate mogul-turned-presidential candidate shakes up the race when he announces that he wants to bar foreign Muslims from entering the country following the shooting in San Bernardino, California. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," his campaign says in a release.

Which has what to do with a temporary halt for refugees from certain countries?

Its a religious ban, based upon previous comments

Is he banning only the people of a certain religion, or people from a certain country?

Looking at the EO, I see countries listed, not religions.

 

[miketx]

Trump should be more Trump on this matter.

He should rewrite the order, and this time for a six month ban. If a liberal judge strikes that one down, rewrite it again for a one year ban. If another lib judge strikes that one down, rewrite another one for a two year ban and so on.

Liberals know they will eventually lose this battle, so let them make the decision on how painful they wish to lose.

Its not about the length of the ban, its about banning a religion.

That lie has been debunked, so please, keep posting it. Show everybody your character.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump should be more Trump on this matter.

He should rewrite the order, and this time for a six month ban. If a liberal judge strikes that one down, rewrite it again for a one year ban. If another lib judge strikes that one down, rewrite another one for a two year ban and so on.

Liberals know they will eventually lose this battle, so let them make the decision on how painful they wish to lose.

Its not about the length of the ban, its about banning a religion.

Okay, well why don't you post the EO right here and now and point out to us where religion is mentioned

If you go back to his many comments during the primaries, religion was mentioned. Most likely the appellate court judges took this into account

December 2015
The real estate mogul-turned-presidential candidate shakes up the race when he announces that he wants to bar foreign Muslims from entering the country following the shooting in San Bernardino, California. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," his campaign says in a release.

Well this commie judge is a personal friend of DumBama's who he met with that week. Should we demand he recuse himself from this decision since we can reasonably assume DumBama is interfering in presidential politics?

 

[Auld Phart]

There wasn't one proposed.

again, what ban?

Do you have a different name for the ban? What do the right wingers prefer to call it

Has Trump submitted an EO banning anyone?

What do his EOs request?

If no one is banned, then anyone would be allowed to enter the country at any time- correctamundo?

He called for a temporary halt.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/25/us/politics/document-Trump-EO-Draft-on-Refugees.html

Not a ban.

Nothing about religion, but you knew that, right?

Or do you only read the talking points you get emailed daily?

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion when the evidence is out there in the form of campaign speeches, sound bites and twitter rants. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut, and he doesn't understand how our system works.

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion

In order to 'ban' only Muslims, yes, it does

 

[brummelben]

Okay, well why don't you post the EO right here and now and point out to us where religion is mentioned

If you go back to his many comments during the primaries, religion was mentioned. Most likely the appellate court judges took this into account

December 2015
The real estate mogul-turned-presidential candidate shakes up the race when he announces that he wants to bar foreign Muslims from entering the country following the shooting in San Bernardino, California. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," his campaign says in a release.

Which has what to do with a temporary halt for refugees from certain countries?

Its a religious ban, based upon previous comments

Is he banning only the people of a certain religion, or people from a certain country?

Looking at the EO, I see countries listed, not religions.

I believe the wording of his original EO allowed Christians from those countries legal entry into the US

 

[brummelben]

Trump should be more Trump on this matter.

He should rewrite the order, and this time for a six month ban. If a liberal judge strikes that one down, rewrite it again for a one year ban. If another lib judge strikes that one down, rewrite another one for a two year ban and so on.

Liberals know they will eventually lose this battle, so let them make the decision on how painful they wish to lose.

Its not about the length of the ban, its about banning a religion.

Okay, well why don't you post the EO right here and now and point out to us where religion is mentioned

If you go back to his many comments during the primaries, religion was mentioned. Most likely the appellate court judges took this into account

December 2015
The real estate mogul-turned-presidential candidate shakes up the race when he announces that he wants to bar foreign Muslims from entering the country following the shooting in San Bernardino, California. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," his campaign says in a release.

Well this commie judge is a personal friend of DumBama's who he met with that week. Should we demand he recuse himself from this decision since we can reasonably assume DumBama is interfering in presidential politics?

YOU cant do shit. Deal with it

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump should be more Trump on this matter.

He should rewrite the order, and this time for a six month ban. If a liberal judge strikes that one down, rewrite it again for a one year ban. If another lib judge strikes that one down, rewrite another one for a two year ban and so on.

Liberals know they will eventually lose this battle, so let them make the decision on how painful they wish to lose.

Its not about the length of the ban, its about banning a religion.

Okay, well why don't you post the EO right here and now and point out to us where religion is mentioned

If you go back to his many comments during the primaries, religion was mentioned. Most likely the appellate court judges took this into account

You beat me to it. Trumps own words prove the case that his EO is a ban against Muslims

Then why is it most Muslims will still be able to enter the country after the EO is in place?

 

[brummelben]

Trump should be more Trump on this matter.

He should rewrite the order, and this time for a six month ban. If a liberal judge strikes that one down, rewrite it again for a one year ban. If another lib judge strikes that one down, rewrite another one for a two year ban and so on.

Liberals know they will eventually lose this battle, so let them make the decision on how painful they wish to lose.

Its not about the length of the ban, its about banning a religion.

That lie has been debunked, so please, keep posting it. Show everybody your character.

Where, other than in you pea brain, has it been debunked?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Its not about the length of the ban, its about banning a religion.

Okay, well why don't you post the EO right here and now and point out to us where religion is mentioned

If you go back to his many comments during the primaries, religion was mentioned. Most likely the appellate court judges took this into account

December 2015
The real estate mogul-turned-presidential candidate shakes up the race when he announces that he wants to bar foreign Muslims from entering the country following the shooting in San Bernardino, California. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," his campaign says in a release.

Well this commie judge is a personal friend of DumBama's who he met with that week. Should we demand he recuse himself from this decision since we can reasonably assume DumBama is interfering in presidential politics?

YOU cant do shit. Deal with it

Oh, so you don't like when other people draw conclusions--it's only okay for leftists to do it.

 

[Auld Phart]

If you go back to his many comments during the primaries, religion was mentioned. Most likely the appellate court judges took this into account

December 2015
The real estate mogul-turned-presidential candidate shakes up the race when he announces that he wants to bar foreign Muslims from entering the country following the shooting in San Bernardino, California. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," his campaign says in a release.

Which has what to do with a temporary halt for refugees from certain countries?

Its a religious ban, based upon previous comments

Is he banning only the people of a certain religion, or people from a certain country?

Looking at the EO, I see countries listed, not religions.

I believe the wording of his original EO allowed Christians from those countries legal entry into the US

point it out.

Full text of Trump's executive order on 7-nation ban, refugee suspension - CNNPolitics.com

 

[J.E.D]

Do you have a different name for the ban? What do the right wingers prefer to call it

Has Trump submitted an EO banning anyone?

What do his EOs request?

If no one is banned, then anyone would be allowed to enter the country at any time- correctamundo?

He called for a temporary halt.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/25/us/politics/document-Trump-EO-Draft-on-Refugees.html

Not a ban.

Nothing about religion, but you knew that, right?

Or do you only read the talking points you get emailed daily?

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion when the evidence is out there in the form of campaign speeches, sound bites and twitter rants. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut, and he doesn't understand how our system works.

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion

In order to 'ban' only Muslims, yes, it does

Not when its author made perfectly clear in twitter rants and speeches exactly what is the intent of the EO.

Judges can take all of that into account when making a decision, and clearly they have been paying attention to Trumps own words on the matter

 

[brummelben]

Do you have a different name for the ban? What do the right wingers prefer to call it

Has Trump submitted an EO banning anyone?

What do his EOs request?

If no one is banned, then anyone would be allowed to enter the country at any time- correctamundo?

He called for a temporary halt.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/25/us/politics/document-Trump-EO-Draft-on-Refugees.html

Not a ban.

Nothing about religion, but you knew that, right?
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump said in a new interview Friday that persecuted Christians will be given priority over other refugees seeking to enter the United States, saying they have been "horribly treated."

Speaking with the Christian Broadcasting Network, Trump said that it had been "impossible, or at least very tough" for Syrian Christians to enter the United States.
Or do you only read the talking points you get emailed daily?

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion when the evidence is out there in the form of campaign speeches, sound bites and twitter rants. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut, and he doesn't understand how our system works.

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion

In order to 'ban' only Muslims, yes, it does

Okay, well why don't you post the EO right here and now and point out to us where religion is mentioned

If you go back to his many comments during the primaries, religion was mentioned. Most likely the appellate court judges took this into account

December 2015
The real estate mogul-turned-presidential candidate shakes up the race when he announces that he wants to bar foreign Muslims from entering the country following the shooting in San Bernardino, California. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," his campaign says in a release.

Well this commie judge is a personal friend of DumBama's who he met with that week. Should we demand he recuse himself from this decision since we can reasonably assume DumBama is interfering in presidential politics?

YOU cant do shit. Deal with it

Oh, so you don't like when other people draw conclusions--it's only okay for leftists to do it.

Trump came out very clearly and said that Christians from Syria would be allowed to enter the US

 

[Auld Phart]

Has Trump submitted an EO banning anyone?

What do his EOs request?

If no one is banned, then anyone would be allowed to enter the country at any time- correctamundo?

He called for a temporary halt.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/25/us/politics/document-Trump-EO-Draft-on-Refugees.html

Not a ban.

Nothing about religion, but you knew that, right?

Or do you only read the talking points you get emailed daily?

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion when the evidence is out there in the form of campaign speeches, sound bites and twitter rants. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut, and he doesn't understand how our system works.

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion

In order to 'ban' only Muslims, yes, it does

Not when its author made perfectly clear in twitter rants and speeches exactly what is the intent of the EO.

Judges can take all of that into account when making a decision, and clearly they have been paying attention to Trumps own words on the matter

Not when its author made perfectly clear in twitter rants and speeches exactly what is the intent of the EO.

Are you saying the judge is ruling on what Trump said, and not on the contents of the EO?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Has Trump submitted an EO banning anyone?

What do his EOs request?

If no one is banned, then anyone would be allowed to enter the country at any time- correctamundo?

He called for a temporary halt.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/25/us/politics/document-Trump-EO-Draft-on-Refugees.html

Not a ban.

Nothing about religion, but you knew that, right?

Or do you only read the talking points you get emailed daily?

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion when the evidence is out there in the form of campaign speeches, sound bites and twitter rants. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut, and he doesn't understand how our system works.

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion

In order to 'ban' only Muslims, yes, it does

Not when its author made perfectly clear in twitter rants and speeches exactly what is the intent of the EO.

Judges can take all of that into account when making a decision, and clearly they have been paying attention to Trumps own words on the matter

No, they are not supposed to do anything but decide on the legality of the EO. That's it. And since leftists are born criminals, this judge is doing his duty as a leftist--not a judge.

 

[imawhosure]

Well, you know all those people who voted for Trump? All the left is doing is cementing their vote and adding more with their position on this.

The left is trying to convince you of the opposite, and they may have a point as far as New York and California, but we don't need those states anyway.

The bottom line is----> the heartland states may not individually have the most votes, but together, they can obviously swamp the coasts as we have already seen.

And so; Trump will eventually get his way, and if anything should go wrong while they obstruct, they will be seen in a light so bad, they might not have the support to run for dog catcher.


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[Auld Phart]

Has Trump submitted an EO banning anyone?

What do his EOs request?

If no one is banned, then anyone would be allowed to enter the country at any time- correctamundo?

He called for a temporary halt.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/25/us/politics/document-Trump-EO-Draft-on-Refugees.html

Not a ban.

Nothing about religion, but you knew that, right?
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump said in a new interview Friday that persecuted Christians will be given priority over other refugees seeking to enter the United States, saying they have been "horribly treated."

Speaking with the Christian Broadcasting Network, Trump said that it had been "impossible, or at least very tough" for Syrian Christians to enter the United States.
Or do you only read the talking points you get emailed daily?

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion when the evidence is out there in the form of campaign speeches, sound bites and twitter rants. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut, and he doesn't understand how our system works.

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion

In order to 'ban' only Muslims, yes, it does

If you go back to his many comments during the primaries, religion was mentioned. Most likely the appellate court judges took this into account

December 2015
The real estate mogul-turned-presidential candidate shakes up the race when he announces that he wants to bar foreign Muslims from entering the country following the shooting in San Bernardino, California. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," his campaign says in a release.

Well this commie judge is a personal friend of DumBama's who he met with that week. Should we demand he recuse himself from this decision since we can reasonably assume DumBama is interfering in presidential politics?

YOU cant do shit. Deal with it

Oh, so you don't like when other people draw conclusions--it's only okay for leftists to do it.

Trump came out very clearly and said that Christians from Syria would be allowed to enter the US

I missed your link to the EO showing that.

Want to try again?

 

[brummelben]

If no one is banned, then anyone would be allowed to enter the country at any time- correctamundo?

He called for a temporary halt.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/25/us/politics/document-Trump-EO-Draft-on-Refugees.html

Not a ban.

Nothing about religion, but you knew that, right?

Or do you only read the talking points you get emailed daily?

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion when the evidence is out there in the form of campaign speeches, sound bites and twitter rants. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut, and he doesn't understand how our system works.

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion

In order to 'ban' only Muslims, yes, it does

Not when its author made perfectly clear in twitter rants and speeches exactly what is the intent of the EO.

Judges can take all of that into account when making a decision, and clearly they have been paying attention to Trumps own words on the matter

Not when its author made perfectly clear in twitter rants and speeches exactly what is the intent of the EO.

Are you saying the judge is ruling on what Trump said, and not on the contents of the EO?

Possibly the ruling was based upon intent.

 

[Auld Phart]

He called for a temporary halt.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/25/us/politics/document-Trump-EO-Draft-on-Refugees.html

Not a ban.

Nothing about religion, but you knew that, right?

Or do you only read the talking points you get emailed daily?

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion when the evidence is out there in the form of campaign speeches, sound bites and twitter rants. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut, and he doesn't understand how our system works.

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion

In order to 'ban' only Muslims, yes, it does

Not when its author made perfectly clear in twitter rants and speeches exactly what is the intent of the EO.

Judges can take all of that into account when making a decision, and clearly they have been paying attention to Trumps own words on the matter

Not when its author made perfectly clear in twitter rants and speeches exactly what is the intent of the EO.

Are you saying the judge is ruling on what Trump said, and not on the contents of the EO?

Possibly the ruling was based upon intent.

Sounds like the judge didn't need to read the EO to make his decision.

What kind of judge is that?

 

[brummelben]

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion when the evidence is out there in the form of campaign speeches, sound bites and twitter rants. Trump just can't keep his mouth shut, and he doesn't understand how our system works.

The EO doesn't need to specifically state anything about religion

In order to 'ban' only Muslims, yes, it does

Not when its author made perfectly clear in twitter rants and speeches exactly what is the intent of the EO.

Judges can take all of that into account when making a decision, and clearly they have been paying attention to Trumps own words on the matter

Not when its author made perfectly clear in twitter rants and speeches exactly what is the intent of the EO.

Are you saying the judge is ruling on what Trump said, and not on the contents of the EO?

Possibly the ruling was based upon intent.

Sounds like the judge didn't need to read the EO to make his decision.

What kind of judge is that?

First of all there are TWO judges that ruled against the emperor. Secondly ask them why, not me