What can republicans do for blacks?

[Ame®icano]

Listen to me . Forget the titles "republican and democrat ". Go with "liberal n conservatives"

It was the liberals that freed the slaves etc..

Look at the voting maps . It's was the blue states pushing for thay stuff .

You're insinuating that today's modern liberals are the same as classical liberals.

They're not. Today's ones are just trying to take credit for the things they never did. There are no liberals in existence today. Lefties are or progressives (fancy name for commies) or socialists. Neither stands for American values.

 

[Ame®icano]

So you find one asshat on YouTube and he speaks for everyone ?

It's just one sample of asshat BLM movement.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's not what Republicans can do for blacks, it's what Republicans want to do TO blacks.

So tell us: what do Republicans want to do TO blacks?

I'm guessing what they have been doing.
Shooting them down in cold blood and then claiming it was self defense.
Try to keep them from voting.
Make fun of them.
Tell disgusting lies like the live on a plantation.
Ignore race based statistics.

All kinds of stuff. I don't have to tell Republicans. Being perpetrators, they know way more about it than me.

Except most of what you wrote are lies. The blacks shot down by police were in self-defense. Republicans didn't do the investigations--investigators (most in liberal cities) did the investigations. Nobody is keeping blacks from voting. Liberals needed to fire up ignorant people in order to keep cheating the elections, so they made up this lie about minorities and voting. Made fun of them? When? Where? "I ain't in no ways tired...." Oh, and her husband too "Years ago he (Obama) would have been serving us coffee." Ignore statistics? We love statistics. Which ones would you wish to discuss?

 

[Ame®icano]

I'm guessing what they have been doing.
Shooting them down in cold blood and then claiming it was self defense.
Try to keep them from voting.
Make fun of them.
Tell disgusting lies like the live on a plantation.
Ignore race based statistics.

All kinds of stuff. I don't have to tell Republicans. Being perpetrators, they know way more about it than me.

Who's ignoring this?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

In the thirties most Americans accepted the idea that blacks were inferior in sports, oh blacks could box but could not play football or baseball like whites. The evidence, was pretty overwhelming, a black college player was indeed rare, and the pros had absolutely no black players. Blacks simply could not compete in either college or pro sports.

This is not the 30s.

Not any longer in sports and perhaps the military, but maybe it is still the Thirties, or worse, in education and other areas. It is a slow process, and maybe a costly one for America?

thought we covered that, the majority of minority schools have a higher spending per student than the white schools, the books are the same, the opportunity to learn is the same.

And your evidence is what?

Really does not take a brain surgeon to do a simple search and find out that the negro based schools in Maryland have a larger per student expenditure than the white based schools.
Perhaps you should try searching before you ask the stupid questions? Or, did you go to one of the higher funded Maryland schools, considering how they compare with the lower funded schools, it would answer some questions.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

In the thirties most Americans accepted the idea that blacks were inferior in sports, oh blacks could box but could not play football or baseball like whites. The evidence, was pretty overwhelming, a black college player was indeed rare, and the pros had absolutely no black players. Blacks simply could not compete in either college or pro sports.

Why do you leftists bring up ship from 50, 100, 200 years ago to try and make a point about something going on today?

Why do Republicans have to bring up events from 50 years ago to find a time when they actually gave a shit about blacks?

why do liberals have to bring up something from 200 years ago to justify something today?

 

[Ame®icano]

The problem with leftards is that they see the racism as the cause of black failure.

They omit that every form of racism has roots in their own party while they keep blaming the "other guys".

 

[regent]

The problem with leftards is that they see the racism as the cause of black failure.

They omit that every form of racism has roots in their own party while they keep blaming the "other guys".

I think the quest is to discover why students, white and black, from poor economic backgrounds do badly in school.

 

[Ame®icano]

The problem with leftards is that they see the racism as the cause of black failure.

They omit that every form of racism has roots in their own party while they keep blaming the "other guys".

I think the quest is to discover why students, white and black, from poor economic backgrounds do badly in school.

It doesn't matter. You can double or triple the money to poor schools, lower the testing scores, even give the free education, it wont change a thing, it wont increase the test scores, or strengthen black families, or reduce black on black crimes. Why?

It's a culture thing.

There is a good book about it: The end of racism

 

[Liminal]

Just cut their chains and set them free......so good to see a comprehensive detailed solution.

Both parties use race to their own advantage every day.

First of all, this is not entirely about parties. It's about plans, programs, visions, ideas, real and fake problems and solutions. It's about black people who somehow still march in lockstep with a political party that has never done what it promised for them. One which, historically, has 'stood in the schoolhouse door' and prohibited them from accomplishing anything.

And these phony white liberals like Hillary Clinton who will pander to them, promise them the moon and stars, then look them in the eye and lie to them about why it wasn't achieved. But they'll elect and reelect the $%#@ because she's got a ******* (D) by her name!

You cannot "fix" the wealth disparity problem or economic class problem by making the lifestyle of that group more comfortable. I wish that you could. Really, I do. I am a compassionate guy... I don't wan't for people to suffer and do without... it sucks! I've had to do it before and I didn't like it none too much. But you see, the human condition requires some discomfort in order to motivate. Otherwise, we are complacent and content. So we have to think about this in a more pragmatic way than our emotions lead us to. If we want to solve the problem, that is.

We have to motivate people at the bottom. They need an incentive and motivation to achieve. Hand outs are not beneficial because they lack any sort of motivational quality. But this has become known as "helping people" when it really helps no one.

There was a program we had back in the 90s under either Bush or Clinton that I kind of liked. Empowerment Zones? I think it was phased out but I really thought it was a good idea. I would like to see more stuff like this that actually HELPS the poor communities than all of this national pandering an posturing over race relations. I'm sick of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, I am sick of watching black communities devolve into anarchy and burn down cities.

Oh I see. So does this mean black folks aren't so lucky to be born in America?

 

[Liminal]

Actually blacks did much better years ago, but people only remember segregation and discrimination. But during that time, the black families stayed together and out of wedlock births were almost unheard of. They stayed out of prison and tried harder.

But then came liberalism.......................

Yeah, blacks long for the good old days of segregation ! Lol!

Holy shit do u guys really believe this stuff ?

The only people who long for "the good old days " are rich white guys . Cause back then they could drive drunk , beat thier wives , harass women, and treat minorities like garbage with impunity .

Black Self-Sabotage
By Walter Williams

If we put ourselves into the shoes of racists who seek to sabotage black upward mobility, we couldn't develop a more effective agenda than that followed by civil rights organizations, black politicians, academics, liberals and the news media. Let's look at it.

First, weaken the black family, but don't blame it on individual choices. You have to preach that today's weak black family is a legacy of slavery, Jim Crow and racism. The truth is that black female-headed households were just 18 percent of households in 1950, as opposed to about 68 percent today. In fact, from 1890 to 1940, the black marriage rate was slightly higher than that of whites. Even during slavery, when marriage was forbidden for blacks, most black children lived in biological two-parent families. In New York City, in 1925, 85 percent of black households were two-parent households. A study of 1880 family structure in Philadelphia shows that three-quarters of black families were two-parent households.

During the 1960s, devastating nonsense emerged, exemplified by a Johns Hopkins University sociology professor who argued, "It has yet to be shown that the absence of a father was directly responsible for any of the supposed deficiencies of broken homes." The real issue, he went on to say, "is not the lack of male presence but the lack of male income." That suggests marriage and fatherhood can be replaced by a welfare check.

The poverty rate among blacks is 36 percent. Most black poverty is found in female-headed households. The poverty rate among black married couples has been in single digits since 1994 and is about 8 percent today. The black illegitimacy rate is 75 percent, and in some cities, it's 90 percent. But if that's a legacy of slavery, it must have skipped several generations, because in the 1940s, unwed births hovered around 14 percent.

Read the rest at: Walter Williams: Black Self-Sabotage

I love Dr. Williams. He says, "blacks should be grateful for slavery!" ...paraphrasing, he points out that he is grateful his ancestors were sold into slavery because he would have never been born in America otherwise.

Another great black conservative is Thomas Sowell. He is one of my favorite conservative authors. But you see, these great conservative people we're talking about are called "tokens" by some. I think that is an interesting unfounded accusation to make.

I think those people make the accusation of "tokenism" because of their guilt in knowing what they actually do in practice every day. When they form their committees and groups, they have to include a certain 'token' person. If they have a party at their home, they will invite a "token" person so people don't think they are prejudiced. When they pick up their kids from daycare or ball practice, they will converse with a "token" person or let their kid go to a "token" party so they can run around feeling good about themselves. After all, they are certainly not going to go put down a mortgage on a home in a "token" neighborhood, are they?

No doubt Jews should be grateful for the Holocaust, so they could be born in Israel.

Given the current state of Israel that is not a very good analogy.

It's precisely analogise to your comment.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The problem with leftards is that they see the racism as the cause of black failure.

They omit that every form of racism has roots in their own party while they keep blaming the "other guys".

I think the quest is to discover why students, white and black, from poor economic backgrounds do badly in school.

More than likely it's family--particularly single parent families.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The problem with leftards is that they see the racism as the cause of black failure.

They omit that every form of racism has roots in their own party while they keep blaming the "other guys".

It's like I've always said, the best part about being a liberal is never having to say it was your fault.

 

[amrchaos]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

That happened over 100 years ago(Thanks, by the way!!)

I am asking about present day America. You know, circa 2015.

And what happened between 1865 and 1965? Any ideas? Not much of historian.....are you.

Let see

between 1865 to about 1900, blacks registered heavily Republican, first Blacks in elected to Congress were on the Republican ticket . First Black governor elected on the Republican ticket--yet the Republican narrartive is that these Black People were on the Democratic plantation.

You, and many of these "New Free Blacks" do not recount history. That is why it is too difficult for you too understand a basic truth.

Why your argument "free Blacks" carry no weight.

Why, when asked what is the difference between voting Republican versus 3rd party, I received no answer.

You can't win votes with empty promises and bad politics..

 

[Conservative65]

Irrelevant factors.

If they are getting the same thing when it comes to what the entity giving it is supposed to be doing, those other factors don't matter.

Really ? Ok let's throw an example out . Public schools . Do you think all public schools
Are equal?

Schools are like neighborhoods. When you talk about a neighborhood, you can talk about the churches, the schools, the shopping malls, the entertainment, the property and home sizes. But what really makes a good neighborhood are the neighbors. Same holds true with schools.

I was taught in a Catholic school and a very small one at that. We averaged about 40 kids to a classroom. We had no lockers. We had no cafeteria. We had no library. We had no football fields. We didn't switch classes. We didn't have college educated teachers; we had nuns. The class that they gave you was where you sat all day.

Yet student per student, we would out perform any public school children on any level of academics.

Yeah I went to catholic school too. The teachers were idiots . BUT they had a big advantage as they could just throw out problem kids and not accept special needs kids .

Public schools do not have that option . Maybe they shoould ? But that's another topic .

You missed the point entirely, and that is it's not the teachers or the schools that make the difference. Do you think those nuns back in the 60's had bachelors degrees in education? They were poor nuns, probably some of them never graduated high school themselves.

And look at home schooling. They are doing fine and who knows how good of a teacher the mother is.

You are putting too much emphasis on the buildings and the people instead of the family where the student came from. In most cases, that's the major problem in our public education system.

OK, so when a youngster comes from an area that has produced problem children for some time should we see if there is a practical solution, or just continue pumping out kids that are problems and not educated?

How can an "area" produce problem children?

 

[Conservative65]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

That happened over 100 years ago(Thanks, by the way!!)

I am asking about present day America. You know, circa 2015.

And what happened between 1865 and 1965? Any ideas? Not much of historian.....are you.

Let see

between 1865 to about 1900, blacks registered heavily Republican, first Blacks in elected to Congress were on the Republican ticket . First Black governor elected on the Republican ticket--yet the Republican narrartive is that these Black People were on the Democratic plantation.

You, and many of these "New Free Blacks" do not recount history. That is why it is too difficult for you too understand a basic truth.

Why your argument "free Blacks" carry no weight.

Why, when asked what is the difference between voting Republican versus 3rd party, I received no answer.

You can't win votes with empty promises and bad politics..

Seems the Democrats today get the black vote with empty promises and pandering.

 

[midcan5]

It is a great irony that replies to my posts are examples of the very thing the articles are about. Racist thoughts have gone so deep inside the person they fail even to consider alternative views. Repeating the racist dog whistles as if it were a valid reply shows how unconscious some have become in America. Check out 'Convict Leasing' in the book linked in my earlier post. Learn a bit.

Additional point from another source.

"Gingrich, of course, denied this, offering “a bromide on the value of hard work” which was met with applause by the audience. Stanley writes: “Williams followed up by pointing out to Gingrich that expressions such as ‘lacking work ethic’ were associated with negative racial stereotypes…and it was disingenuous for Gingrich to deny them. The audience loudly booed Williams’s response.” In other words, “lacking a work ethic” is code for “lazy blacks,” just like “food stamps” or “welfare queens.” In 2012, you don’t need to say, “Negroes are shiftless freeloaders” to tap into the racist ideology of a portion of the audience. You just need to use the right code words."

Not Your Grandfather's Philosophy - New Rambler Review

Seen original posts:

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[bedowin62]

17 Black people were murdered yesterday, and the day before, and the day before that. nearly every single one in a liberal-run city, by somebody that isnt a cop or White

let's talk about what Democrats HAVE DONE to Black people, and continue to do, or not to do

 

[Conservative65]

It is a great irony that replies to my posts are examples of the very thing the articles are about. Racist thoughts have gone so deep inside the person they fail even to consider alternative views. Repeating the racist dog whistles as if it were a valid reply shows how unconscious some have become in America. Check out 'Convict Leasing' in the book linked in my earlier post. Learn a bit.

Additional point from another source.

"Gingrich, of course, denied this, offering “a bromide on the value of hard work” which was met with applause by the audience. Stanley writes: “Williams followed up by pointing out to Gingrich that expressions such as ‘lacking work ethic’ were associated with negative racial stereotypes…and it was disingenuous for Gingrich to deny them. The audience loudly booed Williams’s response.” In other words, “lacking a work ethic” is code for “lazy blacks,” just like “food stamps” or “welfare queens.” In 2012, you don’t need to say, “Negroes are shiftless freeloaders” to tap into the racist ideology of a portion of the audience. You just need to use the right code words."

Not Your Grandfather's Philosophy - New Rambler Review

Seen original posts:

What can republicans do for blacks? | Page 25 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

A good question is why do blacks want someone to do something for them. Aren't they capable of doing for themselves?

 

[amrchaos]

What can republicans do for blacks?

Free them from slavery.

That happened over 100 years ago(Thanks, by the way!!)

I am asking about present day America. You know, circa 2015.

And what happened between 1865 and 1965? Any ideas? Not much of historian.....are you.

Let see

between 1865 to about 1900, blacks registered heavily Republican, first Blacks in elected to Congress were on the Republican ticket . First Black governor elected on the Republican ticket--yet the Republican narrartive is that these Black People were on the Democratic plantation.

You, and many of these "New Free Blacks" do not recount history. That is why it is too difficult for you too understand a basic truth.

Why your argument "free Blacks" carry no weight.

Why, when asked what is the difference between voting Republican versus 3rd party, I received no answer.

You can't win votes with empty promises and bad politics..

Seems the Democrats today get the black vote with empty promises and pandering.

No, Republicans are the conservative party. Blacks rarely vote for the conservatives.

Anyway, why vote for a party that will kick you out/tell you to shut up the mintue you join? The Republicans are in the middle of a RINO hunt, trying to silence or remove all non-conservatives.

So what would you do for the majority of a group that do not embrace your "pilosophy"? Basically what you do to the other members that do not. Walk over them.

Again, Republicn do not offer a reason to vote for them.
Said numerous of times now--You have to give more than the other guy!