Zone1 What are 'traditional American values'?

[Foxfyre]

Zone One everybody so keep it civil.

What's wrong with American youth these days? Many believe it is because we have taken basic American values away from them.

Another school shooting, more vandalism/destructiveness, more general lawlessness, more anti-American demonstrations and attacks on Jews, Christians, others who are easy targets.These are young people who hate their skin, want to change the gender they were born, who exalt the worst our society produces and despise those promoting pro-American ideas. Too many have become lawless, violent, destructive, dangerous, murderous.

So what is the solution? Many, myself included, believe it is because American culture and basic American values are being dismantled and there is nothing positive and good to inspire the young, encourage positive, constructive thinking, appreciate the bright future their country offers.

Many of us believe we should return to allowing prayer, or at least a moment of silence, in school, make God welcome again, promote recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance and the singing of the National Anthem and appreciation/love for the flag and the free, noble, great Nation it represents.

Also, what kids need is summed up in this piece I saw at another site--author unknown:

"What are we missing? What do children need?" He went on and on about mental illness, the Juvenile Justice System, gun control, education reform, blah, blah, blah.

Folks, none of that mumbo jumbo makes a lick of sense. Here is what children need:
1. Children need a mother and a father who love each other and work together as a team.
2. Children need a bicycle, neighbors, and cousins.
3. Children need a grandma to bake with and a grandpa to take em fishing.
4. Children need a church, a Sunday School Class, and a truth telling Preacher.
5. Children need a dinner time with home cooked food, prayer, and conversation.
6. Children need Sunday afternoon football and fried chicken.
7. Children need books to read and coloring pages.
8. Children need summers at the beach and bazooka bubble gum.
9. Children need a trip to Arlington and Fourth of July Fireworks.
10. Children need fire pits, smores, ghost stories, the drive in, and real popcorn.
11. Children need discipline from their parents.
12. Children need chores, a job, a way to earn what they want.
13. Children need education that recognizes mama and daddy as the authority, God as the creator, and the Bible as the roadmap.
This is not about some agenda, this is about children. Get back to basics: faith, family, & good ole fashioned fun.

In other words, basic traditional American values.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Baseball, apple pie and Chevrolet.....sorry the jingle popped into my head immediately

 

[Foxfyre]

Baseball, apple pie and Chevrolet.....sorry the jingle popped into my head immediately

So Carl in Michigan disagrees with all that. I wonder why?

 

[Mack The Finger]

Our country is lost dude...that is why I am happy I am going to die soon.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Freedom, civil liberties that hold government accountable for abuses.

Your Constitution

 

[IM2]

The American values mentioned by the OP have never existed.

 

[Darkwind]

Zone One everybody so keep it civil.

What's wrong with American youth these days? Many believe it is because we have taken basic American values away from them.

Another school shooting, more vandalism/destructiveness, more general lawlessness, more anti-American demonstrations and attacks on Jews, Christians, others who are easy targets.These are young people who hate their skin, want to change the gender they were born, who exalt the worst our society produces and despise those promoting pro-American ideas. Too many have become lawless, violent, destructive, dangerous, murderous.

So what is the solution? Many, myself included, believe it is because American culture and basic American values are being dismantled and there is nothing positive and good to inspire the young, encourage positive, constructive thinking, appreciate the bright future their country offers.

Many of us believe we should return to allowing prayer, or at least a moment of silence, in school, make God welcome again, promote recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance and the singing of the National Anthem and appreciation/love for the flag and the free, noble, great Nation it represents.

Also, what kids need is summed up in this piece I saw at another site--author unknown:

"What are we missing? What do children need?" He went on and on about mental illness, the Juvenile Justice System, gun control, education reform, blah, blah, blah.

Folks, none of that mumbo jumbo makes a lick of sense. Here is what children need:
1. Children need a mother and a father who love each other and work together as a team.
2. Children need a bicycle, neighbors, and cousins.
3. Children need a grandma to bake with and a grandpa to take em fishing.
4. Children need a church, a Sunday School Class, and a truth telling Preacher.
5. Children need a dinner time with home cooked food, prayer, and conversation.
6. Children need Sunday afternoon football and fried chicken.
7. Children need books to read and coloring pages.
8. Children need summers at the beach and bazooka bubble gum.
9. Children need a trip to Arlington and Fourth of July Fireworks.
10. Children need fire pits, smores, ghost stories, the drive in, and real popcorn.
11. Children need discipline from their parents.
12. Children need chores, a job, a way to earn what they want.
13. Children need education that recognizes mama and daddy as the authority, God as the creator, and the Bible as the roadmap.
This is not about some agenda, this is about children. Get back to basics: faith, family, & good ole fashioned fun.

In other words, basic traditional American values.

The problem is that the American Dream requires effort.

The youth today want it all handed to them and think that their getting all this stuff is for the benefit of all society.

It is a strange and frightening worldview they promote and believe in.

1. They don't want to work 40 hours a week, because that doesn't give them time to chase their own personal interests.
2. They want a free education so that they can make the maximum $$ right out of college. Not to benefit a company or a nation but to benefit a lifestyle that lets them travel the world and attend to their hedonistic needs.
3. They want to be able to buy a 1 million dollar home right out of college and do NOT want to put in any effort from highschool to adulthood to plan their financial goals. It should just happen for them.

And the biggie.

They want to do what they want to do, and they DO NOT want to have to pay for any of it.

Guess where they learn all of this absolute, childish nonsense?

 

[IM2]

The problem is that the American Dream requires effort.

The youth today want it all handed to them and think that their getting all this stuff is for the benefit of all society.

It is a strange and frightening worldview they promote and believe in.

1. They don't want to work 40 hours a week, because that doesn't give them time to chase their own personal interests.
2. They want a free education so that they can make the maximum $$ right out of college. Not to benefit a company or a nation but to benefit a lifestyle that lets them travel the world and attend to their hedonistic needs.
3. They want to be able to buy a 1 million dollar home right out of college and do NOT want to put in any effort from highschool to adulthood to plan their financial goals. It should just happen for them.

And the biggie.

They want to do what they want to do, and they DO NOT want to have to pay for any of it.

Guess where they learn all of this absolute, childish nonsense?

Again, you guys are talking about something that never was. You're led by a 79-year-old boy, who was a rich, spoiled brat in the 1950's given everything he had by his daddy, who is talking about how people should earn their way. Most of the leaders in the Republican party are 1950s children who were outside or in their rooms playing with toys while their parents were applying for the government handouts that were available at that time, and now are telling everybody how government is not the way..

 

[pknopp]

Prayer has never been removed from schools.

 

[Stryder50]

Baseball, apple pie and Chevrolet.....sorry the jingle popped into my head immediately

Nawh .....
Football, pecan pie, and Ford !

 

[Stryder50]

Prayer has never been removed from schools.

Especially at test time.
(silent prayer anyways)

 

[Foxfyre]

Our country is lost dude...that is why I am happy I am going to die soon.

I hope you don't die soon. I refuse to believe that America is hopeless. Not yet. If we continue on our current trajectory, we have a fighting chance to restore those American traditional values that made America the greatest nation on Earth. Please stay and fight with us.

 

[Darkwind]

Again, you guys are talking about something that never was. You're led by a 79-year-old boy, who was a rich, spoiled brat in the 1950's given everything he had by his daddy, who is talking about how people should earn their way. Most of the leaders in the Republican party are 1950s children who were outside or in their rooms playing with toys while their parents were applying for the government handouts that were available at that time, and now are telling everybody how government is not the way..

Oh, thanks for the reminder.

The youth today have 20 years of experience in life, cannot balance a checkbook, but are experts in complicated world economics.

 

[Foxfyre]

The problem is that the American Dream requires effort.

The youth today want it all handed to them and think that their getting all this stuff is for the benefit of all society.

It is a strange and frightening worldview they promote and believe in.

1. They don't want to work 40 hours a week, because that doesn't give them time to chase their own personal interests.
2. They want a free education so that they can make the maximum $$ right out of college. Not to benefit a company or a nation but to benefit a lifestyle that lets them travel the world and attend to their hedonistic needs.
3. They want to be able to buy a 1 million dollar home right out of college and do NOT want to put in any effort from highschool to adulthood to plan their financial goals. It should just happen for them.

And the biggie.

They want to do what they want to do, and they DO NOT want to have to pay for any of it.

Guess where they learn all of this absolute, childish nonsense?

But promoting the concepts in the OP could turn that around don't you think? If we give anti-Americanism the bully pulpit and all the microphones, the young never know anything different from a 'woke' agenda. I'm saying we should be fighting to return to what is good, honest, profitable, edifying for the young and everybody.

 

[Darkwind]

But promoting the concepts in the OP could turn that around don't you think? If we give anti-Americanism the bully pulpit and all the microphones, the young never know anything different from a 'woke' agenda. I'm saying we should be fighting to return to what is good, honest, profitable, edifying for the young and everybody.

Without doubt, is a great start on what we need to do.

 

[rightwinger]

I think todays kids have lost the American Dream

Get a College degree, work hard, be a loyal employee, buy a house, raise a family, retire at 65.

College degrees bring massive debt, your job will not pay student debt or allow you to buy a house.
Being a loyal employee will get you fired at the earliest downturn.

 

[alang1216]

Zone One everybody so keep it civil.

What's wrong with American youth these days? Many believe it is because we have taken basic American values away from them.

Another school shooting, more vandalism/destructiveness, more general lawlessness, more anti-American demonstrations and attacks on Jews, Christians, others who are easy targets.These are young people who hate their skin, want to change the gender they were born, who exalt the worst our society produces and despise those promoting pro-American ideas. Too many have become lawless, violent, destructive, dangerous, murderous.

So what is the solution? Many, myself included, believe it is because American culture and basic American values are being dismantled and there is nothing positive and good to inspire the young, encourage positive, constructive thinking, appreciate the bright future their country offers.

Many of us believe we should return to allowing prayer, or at least a moment of silence, in school, make God welcome again, promote recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance and the singing of the National Anthem and appreciation/love for the flag and the free, noble, great Nation it represents.

Also, what kids need is summed up in this piece I saw at another site--author unknown:

"What are we missing? What do children need?" He went on and on about mental illness, the Juvenile Justice System, gun control, education reform, blah, blah, blah.

Folks, none of that mumbo jumbo makes a lick of sense. Here is what children need:
1. Children need a mother and a father who love each other and work together as a team.
2. Children need a bicycle, neighbors, and cousins.
3. Children need a grandma to bake with and a grandpa to take em fishing.
4. Children need a church, a Sunday School Class, and a truth telling Preacher.
5. Children need a dinner time with home cooked food, prayer, and conversation.
6. Children need Sunday afternoon football and fried chicken.
7. Children need books to read and coloring pages.
8. Children need summers at the beach and bazooka bubble gum.
9. Children need a trip to Arlington and Fourth of July Fireworks.
10. Children need fire pits, smores, ghost stories, the drive in, and real popcorn.
11. Children need discipline from their parents.
12. Children need chores, a job, a way to earn what they want.
13. Children need education that recognizes mama and daddy as the authority, God as the creator, and the Bible as the roadmap.
This is not about some agenda, this is about children. Get back to basics: faith, family, & good ole fashioned fun.

In other words, basic traditional American values.

Except for the religious parts, I'm good with this. This is pretty much how my kids grew up but they are the fortunate ones, we were able to provide all their material needs and ensured they felt loved and surrounded by an extended family. There were and are plenty of kids from poor and/or broken homes and those are the ones who need the government (meaning society) to step up and fill in the gaps. That is exactly what we are moving away from under the GOP. It is everyone for themselves.

 

[Foxfyre]

I think todays kids have lost the American Dream

Get a College degree, work hard, be a loyal employee, buy a house, raise a family, retire at 65.

College degrees bring massive debt, your job will not pay student debt or allow you to buy a house.
Being a loyal employee will get you fired at the earliest downturn.

Those who can't afford a college degree can still make a very good life for themselves. My sis and brother-in-law were educators--she a master's degree in music, him coach, teacher, and eventually superintendent of schools. Only one of their four kids got a college degree but squandered his life on booze and drugs and died young as a result of that. Three others had some college--little college debt if any--and have made good lives for themselves--not rich by any means but certainly comfortable.

One did not want anything to do with college but went to work immediately out of high school, acquired some valuable life skills, and is now the multi-millionaire of the family. (He also happens to be the most devoutly religious and he and his wife have raised their family, and their kids are raising their families with those traditional family values listed in the OP.)

 

[Meister]

Except for the religious parts, I'm good with this. This is pretty much how my kids grew up but they are the fortunate ones, we were able to provide all their material needs and ensured they felt loved and surrounded by an extended family. There were and are plenty of kids from poor and/or broken homes and those are the ones who need the government (meaning society) to step up and fill in the gaps. That is exactly what we are moving away from under the GOP. It is everyone for themselves.

Seems the more money that is given to the education system, the education administration siphons that off
and very little reaches the the intended school children. That is a group effort from both parties.
You see.....this government does not have a viable oversight system in place.

 

[braalian]

Zone One everybody so keep it civil.

What's wrong with American youth these days? Many believe it is because we have taken basic American values away from them.

Another school shooting, more vandalism/destructiveness, more general lawlessness, more anti-American demonstrations and attacks on Jews, Christians, others who are easy targets.These are young people who hate their skin, want to change the gender they were born, who exalt the worst our society produces and despise those promoting pro-American ideas. Too many have become lawless, violent, destructive, dangerous, murderous.

So what is the solution? Many, myself included, believe it is because American culture and basic American values are being dismantled and there is nothing positive and good to inspire the young, encourage positive, constructive thinking, appreciate the bright future their country offers.

Many of us believe we should return to allowing prayer, or at least a moment of silence, in school, make God welcome again, promote recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance and the singing of the National Anthem and appreciation/love for the flag and the free, noble, great Nation it represents.

Also, what kids need is summed up in this piece I saw at another site--author unknown:

"What are we missing? What do children need?" He went on and on about mental illness, the Juvenile Justice System, gun control, education reform, blah, blah, blah.

Folks, none of that mumbo jumbo makes a lick of sense. Here is what children need:
1. Children need a mother and a father who love each other and work together as a team.
2. Children need a bicycle, neighbors, and cousins.
3. Children need a grandma to bake with and a grandpa to take em fishing.
4. Children need a church, a Sunday School Class, and a truth telling Preacher.
5. Children need a dinner time with home cooked food, prayer, and conversation.
6. Children need Sunday afternoon football and fried chicken.
7. Children need books to read and coloring pages.
8. Children need summers at the beach and bazooka bubble gum.
9. Children need a trip to Arlington and Fourth of July Fireworks.
10. Children need fire pits, smores, ghost stories, the drive in, and real popcorn.
11. Children need discipline from their parents.
12. Children need chores, a job, a way to earn what they want.
13. Children need education that recognizes mama and daddy as the authority, God as the creator, and the Bible as the roadmap.
This is not about some agenda, this is about children. Get back to basics: faith, family, & good ole fashioned fun.

In other words, basic traditional American values.

It kind of looks like you’re just describing things you remember from your childhood.

Some of them are weirdly specific and situational.

Not everyone has cousis. Not all kids have living grandparents. Some kids’ parents moved away from extended family for work

Bazooka Joe bubble gum and drive ins are more your generation then theirs

Education focused on the Bible is 100% available to anyone who wants it….. just not as part of tax payer funded public schools