What Are the US Goals In Ukraine?

[1776]

Oh yeah shit eater....they are just Nazis in Ukraine. Putin thanks you for the support.

As Syria....strange that the rebels are fighting the terrorists and Assad there.

Where do you find your weird "intel?" I find it quite funny....

Yes, the U.S. is willing to tolerate Nazi's in order to maintain world hegemony by undermining Russia in a key country. Pretty desperate. First they support terrorists in Syria and now this. The U.S. is the worlds leading terrorist state.

 

[georgephillip]

Oh yeah shit eater....they are just Nazis in Ukraine. Putin thanks you for the support.

As Syria....strange that the rebels are fighting the terrorists and Assad there.

Where do you find your weird "intel?" I find it quite funny....

Yes, the U.S. is willing to tolerate Nazi's in order to maintain world hegemony by undermining Russia in a key country. Pretty desperate. First they support terrorists in Syria and now this. The U.S. is the worlds leading terrorist state.

What do you know about Russian-built pipelines in Ukraine?

Putin sells more gas to Germany than to Ukraine.

Do you imagine he will allow Western Ukrainians whether Neo-Nazi or not to control his pipelines?

Would you?

 

[Contumacious]

Oh yeah shit eater....they are just Nazis in Ukraine. Putin thanks you for the support.

As Syria....strange that the rebels are fighting the terrorists and Assad there.

Where do you find your weird "intel?" I find it quite funny....

Excuse me Dildo, are you and "Protectionist" the same person?

Why don't you go to night school and take a few courses in English and reading comprehension.

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[1776]

Ahhhh, Cuntumacious is defending his boyfriend RC Fucktard.

Oh yeah shit eater....they are just Nazis in Ukraine. Putin thanks you for the support.

As Syria....strange that the rebels are fighting the terrorists and Assad there.

Where do you find your weird "intel?" I find it quite funny....

Excuse me Dildo, are you and "Protectionist" the same person?

Why don't you go to night school and take a few courses in English and reading comprehension.

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[1776]

Shitstain...so Russia can just go ahead and take all of Ukraine since their pipelines run through Ukraine????

Oh yeah shit eater....they are just Nazis in Ukraine. Putin thanks you for the support.

As Syria....strange that the rebels are fighting the terrorists and Assad there.

Where do you find your weird "intel?" I find it quite funny....

Yes, the U.S. is willing to tolerate Nazi's in order to maintain world hegemony by undermining Russia in a key country. Pretty desperate. First they support terrorists in Syria and now this. The U.S. is the worlds leading terrorist state.

What do you know about Russian-built pipelines in Ukraine?

Putin sells more gas to Germany than to Ukraine.

Do you imagine he will allow Western Ukrainians whether Neo-Nazi or not to control his pipelines?

Would you?

 

[pvsi]

Amazing. Can no one articulate what the stated goals of this administration are in Ukraine?

You already got my thread closed about "what is Israel's goals in USA", CAN YOU answer my question already - what is whales goals on the moon?

 

[Contumacious]

Of course a socialist sack of shit like you shows a map inflating the "pro-Russian" part of Ukraine which is really about 1/4 of your bogus area.

Now compare Ukraine to the size of Russia.....yeah, it is so unfair Russia doesn't get to own half of Ukraine. Hell.....maybe Russia wants Alaska too....

It appears one of the Administration's goals is to use the Ukraine crisis to reform the IMF rules....maybe someone here can explain what this is really all about....it seems Republicans are against it because it may affect taxpayers....Boehner says it has nothing to do with Ukraine...

"Some congressional Republicans are concerned that taxpayer dollars could be at a greater risk under the changes, however. Some Republicans on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee tried to get rid of the provision during a Wednesday markup, but were defeated by Democrats and a few Republicans."

John Kerry: Include IMF changes in Ukraine package - Seung Min Kim - POLITICO.com

It's always possible that "loan guarantees" from the IMF which are structured to increase the wealth of oligarchs in the US, EU, and Ukraine will ultimately fall on taxpayers in the US and elsewhere while cutting pensions in Ukraine from about $160/month to $80.

That's how IMF/Washington Consensus "structural adjustments" have performed over the past 70 years.

A question more westerners should be asking is how many Ukraines are there?

The following is a short (1-2 page) interview with Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn on Ukraine reprinted from a 1994 issue of Forbes Magazine:

"I myself am nearly half Ukrainian. I grew up with the sounds of Ukrainian speech. I love her culture and genuinely wish all kinds of success for Ukraine–but only within her real ethnic boundaries, without grabbing Russian provinces."

An Interview With Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn on Ukraine » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

See, if you had gone to night school like I suggested, you would have found out that the us adopted socialism in 1913.

So we have now is the socialist west vs the socialist east.

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[1776]

Cuntumacious....you think everyone ended up in GED night school like you.

Of course a socialist sack of shit like you shows a map inflating the "pro-Russian" part of Ukraine which is really about 1/4 of your bogus area.

Now compare Ukraine to the size of Russia.....yeah, it is so unfair Russia doesn't get to own half of Ukraine. Hell.....maybe Russia wants Alaska too....

"Some congressional Republicans are concerned that taxpayer dollars could be at a greater risk under the changes, however. Some Republicans on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee tried to get rid of the provision during a Wednesday markup, but were defeated by Democrats and a few Republicans."

John Kerry: Include IMF changes in Ukraine package - Seung Min Kim - POLITICO.com

It's always possible that "loan guarantees" from the IMF which are structured to increase the wealth of oligarchs in the US, EU, and Ukraine will ultimately fall on taxpayers in the US and elsewhere while cutting pensions in Ukraine from about $160/month to $80.

That's how IMF/Washington Consensus "structural adjustments" have performed over the past 70 years.

A question more westerners should be asking is how many Ukraines are there?

The following is a short (1-2 page) interview with Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn on Ukraine reprinted from a 1994 issue of Forbes Magazine:

"I myself am nearly half Ukrainian. I grew up with the sounds of Ukrainian speech. I love her culture and genuinely wish all kinds of success for Ukraine–but only within her real ethnic boundaries, without grabbing Russian provinces."

An Interview With Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn on Ukraine » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

See, if you had gone to night school like I suggested, you would have found out that the us adopted socialism in 1913.

So we have now is the socialist west vs the socialist east.

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[1776]

Using the logic of the kooks here.....the US could invade Canada between Winnipeg and Calgary which is mostly "conservative" English speaking Canada. Those Canadians are different than their west coast, east coast and Quebec Canadians.

We have nukes, we have a stronger military and western Canada votes like Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas.....

 

[Contumacious]

Using the logic of the kooks here.....the US could invade Canada between Winnipeg and Calgary which is mostly "conservative" English speaking Canada. ..

Conservative Russia

People simply do not realise that Russia is a deeply conservative country.

Fiscal policy is buttressed on a low, flat rate of income tax (13%), and there is virtually no social safety net, with spending on unemployment security, medical provision, disability aid, infrastructure, the environment, and urban regeneration far lower, in both absolute terms and as a percentage of GDP, than its G8 contemporaries."

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[Steinlight]

I didn't realize 1776 had his head so far up Obama and the cultural marxist EU's ass. This guy is having a panic attack over Crimea

 

[Contumacious]

I didn't realize 1776 had his head so far up Obama and the cultural marxist EU's ass. This guy is having a panic attack over Crimea

Actually his head is up his own ass. The semen handler believes that criticizing Putin will make him appear less communistic.

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[CaféAuLait]

Obama to Putin: U.S. Will Punish Russia for Ukraine Vote




Obama to Putin: U.S. Will Punish Russia for Ukraine Vote - NBC News

 

[tinydancer]

I'm thinking by our dear western leaders' logic that America had no right to secede from Britain. The revolution was illegal. Nor Canada's vote for independence from England for that matter. Started off as a dominion of four provinces and took forever but we finally broke free. Well almost.

 

[Contumacious]

I'm thinking by our dear western leaders' logic that America had no right to secede from Britain. The revolution was illegal. Nor Canada's vote for independence from England for that matter. Started off as a dominion of four provinces and took forever but we finally broke free. Well almost.

DC is full of hypocrites.

Ukraine has a right to be independent. The southern states did not. Putin is a bastard but Lincoln has a monument in DC.

Go fig.

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[The Rabbi]

Using the logic of the kooks here.....the US could invade Canada between Winnipeg and Calgary which is mostly "conservative" English speaking Canada. Those Canadians are different than their west coast, east coast and Quebec Canadians.

We have nukes, we have a stronger military and western Canada votes like Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas.....

Or Mexico could invade the US to protect all the ethnic Hispanics. It's absurd logic.

 

[dannyboys]

Obama's 'goal' re the Ukraine is very clear: To make sure that 'Mo's' weekly crate of cheese pierogis keeps arriving on time.
Other than that there's not really any goal except to pretend Putin isn't eating Obama's lunch every day.

 

[kaz]

This is actually a serious question. Based on statements by the administration, what are our stated goals in dealing with the Russians on the Ukraine issue?

I ask because I havent heard one yet. And if the administration cannot articulate its goals, it cannot achieve them.

The Obama administration goal is to look stupid, and they are doing a bang up job of it.

The reality is that the Crimea is Russian. It was only put in The Ukraine by Stalin when he thought Russia would always rule The Ukraine. Whatever we want to happen, Russians are very nationalistic and they aren't going to leave. So we can tilt at windmills and have a hissy fit or we can accept it and move on. I think the response for NATO should be to reinforce the line of defense where it's feasible. Drawing the line in the Crimea, throwing off a bunch of dirt and feathers and then losing is going to just embolden Russia.

 

[kaz]

Using the logic of the kooks here.....the US could invade Canada between Winnipeg and Calgary which is mostly "conservative" English speaking Canada. Those Canadians are different than their west coast, east coast and Quebec Canadians.

We have nukes, we have a stronger military and western Canada votes like Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas.....

Or Mexico could invade the US to protect all the ethnic Hispanics. It's absurd logic.

The difference is that the Crimea is historically Russian, not Ukrainian. The problem is going to be if Russia tries to do the same in areas like the Baltics which are not historically Russian but have large Russian populations from the Soviet days.

 

[georgephillip]

Using the logic of the kooks here.....the US could invade Canada between Winnipeg and Calgary which is mostly "conservative" English speaking Canada. Those Canadians are different than their west coast, east coast and Quebec Canadians.

We have nukes, we have a stronger military and western Canada votes like Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas.....

Does your invasion take place before or after Putin and the BRICS invest $5 billion to topple a democratically elected government in Ottawa?