What all the pols are really saying:

[rdean]

Number 1:

Currently, Trump and Clinton have historically high negative ratings.
Clinton is running against Trump, so she gets negative ratings from his voters.
Clinton is running against Sanders, so she gets negative ratings from his voters.
She has 30 years of smears from the GOP.
The press has given her more negative press than anyone else, which has been posted before so it's no surprise at this point she would have such high negative ratings.

Fewer Clinton supporters said they would vote for Obama at this same time in 2008 but eventually became very supportive.

Donald Trump is not really running against anyone right now. Bernie and Hillary are running against each other and yet, Trump's negatives are the highest of all.

Bernie has been handled with kid gloves by the press. The press simply refuses to vet him. When he was given that devastating interview by the NY Daily news, other media complained the "right" questions weren't being asked when Bernie gave answers like "I don't know", "It has to be studied" and "Someone help me out here". With Trump as an opponent, Bernie can't count on the "right" questions. It's the job of the candidate to be prepared. Worse, Bernie's wife has been identified as the cause for ruining and closing an entire college and profiting from it. Imagine what Trump could do with that? Think Bill. Then there is the admiration Bernie has for brutal dictator Fidel Castro, and his problem with socialism, as in Union of Soviet Socialists Republic.

Number 2: Third Party Candidate

For Republicans, I don't think it's possible. The GOP base is behind Donald Trump. It's the phrase "Make America Great Again" which they translate into "When Only Whites Had all the Power". The GOP has been carefully cultivating a base that believes the country has changed so much, we need to tear everything down and start over. Get rid of Hispanics would help. Let the states handle education so children could learn REAL history, like Noah and a 6,000 year old Earth and normal math that doesn't have letters instead of numbers.

Republican calls algebra "fuzzy math" for using letters with numbers.

Since Bernie refuses to raise money for the DNC and refuses to support any other Democratic Candidate, the danger of a third party comes from him. Even three million votes behind he somehow thinks he should be the nominee. He is surrounded by wildly screaming and enthusiastic children. He thinks that somehow translates into deserving. He could run third party and then blame the landslide loss on Hillary Clinton. He seems to be saying: I'm more popular so I should be the nominee. He lost Kentucky and Nebraska and never mentions either in his "momentum" claim.

So when they say Clinton gets 43% but Trump gets 46%, Clinton is only getting Democrats and not independents. But Trump isn't get independents either.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

^^^^ That comment is a hot mess.

 

[rdean]

^^^^ That comment is a hot mess.

Of course it is. To a tard.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

 

[Wyatt earp]

Number 1:

Currently, Trump and Clinton have historically high negative ratings.
Clinton is running against Trump, so she gets negative ratings from his voters.
Clinton is running against Sanders, so she gets negative ratings from his voters.
She has 30 years of smears from the GOP.
The press has given her more negative press than anyone else, which has been posted before so it's no surprise at this point she would have such high negative ratings.

Fewer Clinton supporters said they would vote for Obama at this same time in 2008 but eventually became very supportive.

Donald Trump is not really running against anyone right now. Bernie and Hillary are running against each other and yet, Trump's negatives are the highest of all.

Bernie has been handled with kid gloves by the press. The press simply refuses to vet him. When he was given that devastating interview by the NY Daily news, other media complained the "right" questions weren't being asked when Bernie gave answers like "I don't know", "It has to be studied" and "Someone help me out here". With Trump as an opponent, Bernie can't count on the "right" questions. It's the job of the candidate to be prepared. Worse, Bernie's wife has been identified as the cause for ruining and closing an entire college and profiting from it. Imagine what Trump could do with that? Think Bill. Then there is the admiration Bernie has for brutal dictator Fidel Castro, and his problem with socialism, as in Union of Soviet Socialists Republic.

Number 2: Third Party Candidate

For Republicans, I don't think it's possible. The GOP base is behind Donald Trump. It's the phrase "Make America Great Again" which they translate into "When Only Whites Had all the Power". The GOP has been carefully cultivating a base that believes the country has changed so much, we need to tear everything down and start over. Get rid of Hispanics would help. Let the states handle education so children could learn REAL history, like Noah and a 6,000 year old Earth and normal math that doesn't have letters instead of numbers.

Republican calls algebra "fuzzy math" for using letters with numbers.

Since Bernie refuses to raise money for the DNC and refuses to support any other Democratic Candidate, the danger of a third party comes from him. Even three million votes behind he somehow thinks he should be the nominee. He is surrounded by wildly screaming and enthusiastic children. He thinks that somehow translates into deserving. He could run third party and then blame the landslide loss on Hillary Clinton. He seems to be saying: I'm more popular so I should be the nominee. He lost Kentucky and Nebraska and never mentions either in his "momentum" claim.

So when they say Clinton gets 43% but Trump gets 46%, Clinton is only getting Democrats and not independents. But Trump isn't get independents either.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

This just tells me that these two are the most shittiest candidates in the history of this country

 

[there4eyeM]

It all could easily turn into a campaign and an election 'against' rather than for anything.
No one thinks a President alone can make America great; in fact, no one seriously thinks America is not presently 'great', despite severe criticisms that could be justifiably made. Trump does have a catchy phrase there, though. Clinton lacks 'edge'.
Business men have not shown themselves to be especially good at being POTUS. Trump's personality isn't what the majority would pick for the post. Clinton has experience, but to many it's the wrong kind. Just her characterless vote for the illegal invasion is more than a lot of us can bear.
Say what one will about voting for other than the two-party dictators, many of us will choose not just to sit it out, but will find another choice.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Number 1:

Currently, Trump and Clinton have historically high negative ratings.
Clinton is running against Trump, so she gets negative ratings from his voters.
Clinton is running against Sanders, so she gets negative ratings from his voters.
She has 30 years of smears from the GOP.
The press has given her more negative press than anyone else, which has been posted before so it's no surprise at this point she would have such high negative ratings.

Fewer Clinton supporters said they would vote for Obama at this same time in 2008 but eventually became very supportive.

Donald Trump is not really running against anyone right now. Bernie and Hillary are running against each other and yet, Trump's negatives are the highest of all.

Bernie has been handled with kid gloves by the press. The press simply refuses to vet him. When he was given that devastating interview by the NY Daily news, other media complained the "right" questions weren't being asked when Bernie gave answers like "I don't know", "It has to be studied" and "Someone help me out here". With Trump as an opponent, Bernie can't count on the "right" questions. It's the job of the candidate to be prepared. Worse, Bernie's wife has been identified as the cause for ruining and closing an entire college and profiting from it. Imagine what Trump could do with that? Think Bill. Then there is the admiration Bernie has for brutal dictator Fidel Castro, and his problem with socialism, as in Union of Soviet Socialists Republic.

Number 2: Third Party Candidate

For Republicans, I don't think it's possible. The GOP base is behind Donald Trump. It's the phrase "Make America Great Again" which they translate into "When Only Whites Had all the Power". The GOP has been carefully cultivating a base that believes the country has changed so much, we need to tear everything down and start over. Get rid of Hispanics would help. Let the states handle education so children could learn REAL history, like Noah and a 6,000 year old Earth and normal math that doesn't have letters instead of numbers.

Republican calls algebra "fuzzy math" for using letters with numbers.

Since Bernie refuses to raise money for the DNC and refuses to support any other Democratic Candidate, the danger of a third party comes from him. Even three million votes behind he somehow thinks he should be the nominee. He is surrounded by wildly screaming and enthusiastic children. He thinks that somehow translates into deserving. He could run third party and then blame the landslide loss on Hillary Clinton. He seems to be saying: I'm more popular so I should be the nominee. He lost Kentucky and Nebraska and never mentions either in his "momentum" claim.

So when they say Clinton gets 43% but Trump gets 46%, Clinton is only getting Democrats and not independents. But Trump isn't get independents either.

 

[bucs90]

 

[rdean]

These right wingers. Anything they can't understand they make fun of. Which means they make fun of everything.

 

[HappyJoy]

Haven't heard a single word actually disputing the OP.

I think this is turning out to be a very traditional 'Us vs. Them' campaign and it's going to come out to voter turn out. There is a lot of incentive in voting against someone and I expect each sides base to come out in full. One side has a bigger base.

 

[oreo]

Number 1:

Currently, Trump and Clinton have historically high negative ratings.
Clinton is running against Trump, so she gets negative ratings from his voters.
Clinton is running against Sanders, so she gets negative ratings from his voters.
She has 30 years of smears from the GOP.
The press has given her more negative press than anyone else, which has been posted before so it's no surprise at this point she would have such high negative ratings.

Fewer Clinton supporters said they would vote for Obama at this same time in 2008 but eventually became very supportive.

Donald Trump is not really running against anyone right now. Bernie and Hillary are running against each other and yet, Trump's negatives are the highest of all.

Bernie has been handled with kid gloves by the press. The press simply refuses to vet him. When he was given that devastating interview by the NY Daily news, other media complained the "right" questions weren't being asked when Bernie gave answers like "I don't know", "It has to be studied" and "Someone help me out here". With Trump as an opponent, Bernie can't count on the "right" questions. It's the job of the candidate to be prepared. Worse, Bernie's wife has been identified as the cause for ruining and closing an entire college and profiting from it. Imagine what Trump could do with that? Think Bill. Then there is the admiration Bernie has for brutal dictator Fidel Castro, and his problem with socialism, as in Union of Soviet Socialists Republic.

Number 2: Third Party Candidate

For Republicans, I don't think it's possible. The GOP base is behind Donald Trump. It's the phrase "Make America Great Again" which they translate into "When Only Whites Had all the Power". The GOP has been carefully cultivating a base that believes the country has changed so much, we need to tear everything down and start over. Get rid of Hispanics would help. Let the states handle education so children could learn REAL history, like Noah and a 6,000 year old Earth and normal math that doesn't have letters instead of numbers.

Republican calls algebra "fuzzy math" for using letters with numbers.

Since Bernie refuses to raise money for the DNC and refuses to support any other Democratic Candidate, the danger of a third party comes from him. Even three million votes behind he somehow thinks he should be the nominee. He is surrounded by wildly screaming and enthusiastic children. He thinks that somehow translates into deserving. He could run third party and then blame the landslide loss on Hillary Clinton. He seems to be saying: I'm more popular so I should be the nominee. He lost Kentucky and Nebraska and never mentions either in his "momentum" claim.

So when they say Clinton gets 43% but Trump gets 46%, Clinton is only getting Democrats and not independents. But Trump isn't get independents either.

NO ONE SHOULD BE PAYING ANY ATTENTION TO NATIONAL POLLING DATA: They have turned into a world wide train wreck. The overwhelming majority will not pick up on unknown callers anymore, and most of us use cell phones that pollsters have no access too. So pollsters are being forced to use very low participation samples. I have seen National polls with participation as low as 736 participants that are supposed to reflect the opinions of over 170 + million voters. Online polls are a joke as one participant can vote several times. Most won't bother with them as they are associated with donation sites. Text polls are the very worst, because you can vote 100 times for the same candidate.

So if you're going to pay attention to National polls, at least read the internals of the poll. How many people participated, and you will be SHOCKED. It they don't list their internals it's because they're too embarrassed to tell you how many participated. And I noticed in this new Washington ABC poll they didn't list their internals. So as far as we know they polled 10 people and called it a poll.

Who touts these National Polls the most often? None other than Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump. Trump also does very well in the polls, but oddly enough he has the highest unfavorable rating of any candidate in recorded history. Which indicates that the only ones that bother to participate in these polls are Sanders and Trump supporters.

Here is a great article on the polls and the world wide disasters.
Flaws in Polling Data Exposed as U.S. Campaign Season Heats Up