Western Canadiens consider succession form Canada...

[insein]

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/08/09/1165467-cp.html

Poll: Westerners considering separation

CALGARY (CP) - More than one-third of western Canadians surveyed this summer thought it was time to consider separation from Canada, a poll suggests.

In the survey, 35.6 per cent of respondents from Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta and British Columbia agreed with the statement: Western Canadians should begin to explore the idea of forming their own country.

Albertans, at 42 per cent, were most apt to consider independence, followed by Saskatchewan at 31.9 per cent. Residents of B.C. and Manitoba were the least likely to consider separation, at 30.8 and 27.5 per cent respectively.

The survey was commissioned by the Western Standard, a right-leaning bimonthly news and opinion magazine based in Calgary, to assess how well the federal government has been managing the issue of western alienation - something that Prime Minister Martin promised to reduce as part of his 2004 election campaign.

The research was conducted by pollster Faron Ellis, a political science professor at Lethbridge Community College, who surveyed 1,448 adult western Canadians between June 29 and July 5.

The results are considered accurate within plus or minus 2.6 percentage point, 19 times out of 20.

Ellis noted that surprisingly, separatist sentiment appeared to run highest among young people - 37 per cent of respondents between the ages of 18 and 29 were open to the notion of breaking away from Canada.

Support was lowest - 33.7 per cent - among the baby boom generation aged between 45 and 64.

In the poll's supplementary questions, 64 per cent of respondents said Martin had done a "poor job" at ending western alienation.

 

[dilloduck]

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/08/09/1165467-cp.html

well--It sure as hell is big enough to split up. Maybe they will come up with some cool names like the Republic of Frozen Moose Bones or something. :

 

[Avatar4321]

What would be the reasons behind this? out of curiosity.

 

[archangel]

What would be the reasons behind this? out of curiosity.

For the most part Western Canada is Conservative...Eastern is Liberal(Ultra)...
Canada is starting to feel the embarrassment of the Ultra Liberal party...and war protestors!

 

[Avatar4321]

For the most part Western Canada is Conservative...Eastern is Liberal(Ultra)...
Canada is starting to feel the embarrassment of the Ultra Liberal party...and war protestors!

ah well if they want to seceed and join the US we would gladly welcome them then

 

[Said1]

For the most part Western Canada is Conservative...Eastern is Liberal(Ultra)...
Canada is starting to feel the embarrassment of the Ultra Liberal party...and war protestors!

Actually no, it's about money and representation in the house of commons.

 

[archangel]

Actually no, it's about money and representation in the house of commons.

Of all the Western Canadians I met at the Reno,Nevada rodeo would beg to differ with you!

 

[Said1]

Of all the Western Canadians I met at the Reno,Nevada rodeo would beg to differ with you!

Ok, you're right, I'm wrong. You're the all wise and all knowing master Yoda Poo-bah. Ali-salemah. It's about the ultra Liberal party...and war protestors. Nothing to do with transfer payments, resource control and federal representation to name a few. Ok. You win, I lose. From this day forward, I will walk around with a bag over my head in shame. I know nothing about my country or the province where I grew up.....shame on me. I suck.

 

[archangel]

Ok, you're right, I'm wrong. You're the all wise and all knowing master Yoda Poo-bah. Ali-salemah. It's about the ultra Liberal party...and war protestors. Nothing to do with transfer payments, resource control and federal representation to name a few. Ok. You win, I lose. From this day forward, I will walk around with a bag over my head in shame. I know nothing about my country or the province where I grew up.....shame on me. I suck.

Y'all from the North come in here and tell us southerners all about our country...and how we suck...then when we tell ya about how we see your country...geez..we are the know it alls! :baby:

 

[Said1]

Y'all from the North come in here and tell us southerners all about our country...and how we suck...then when we tell ya about how we see your country...geez..we are the know it alls! :baby:

I don't recall doing that, and yes, you are acting like a know it all. You wrote what a few people at a rodeo think about the feds and anit-war protestors. I'm sure they know that what really lies at the heart of the matter involves money and more recently, Kyoto. The Kyoto accord would have adversely affected Alberta (energy industry) and Ontario, but Ottawa (the feds) exempted the Ontario auto industry from the accord. And Albertians are also strongly opposed to the same sex marriage bill. Anyway, Klein seems to be downplaying the idea of seperation now. He's a big mouth, lots of bark but only able to chase a cat up a tree.

 

[archangel]

I don't recall doing that, and yes, you are acting like a know it all. You wrote what a few people at a rodeo think about the feds and anit-war protestors. I'm sure they know that what really lies at the heart of the matter involves money and more recently, Kyoto. The Kyoto accord would have adversely affected Alberta (energy industry) and Ontario, but Ottawa (the feds) exempted the Ontario auto industry from the accord. And Albertians are also strongly opposed to the same sex marriage bill. Anyway, Klein seems to be downplaying the idea of seperation now. He's a big mouth, lots of bark but only able to chase a cat up a tree.

gotta run...however we are both know it all's...as witnessed by your above commentary...I just made a comment based on real time exchange of views between a few good old boys....ya want to chastize me for that....be my guest!....Kiss Kiss-Hug...hug!

 

[Said1]

gotta run...however we are both know it all's...as witnessed by your above commentary...I just made a comment based on real time exchange of views between a few good old boys....ya want to chastize me for that....be my guest!....Kiss Kiss-Hug...hug!

Does it hurt.......I mean all that flip flopping? :tng:

 

[MrMarbles]

I'm from Manitoba, and I have never heard people talk of splitting the province off from Canada. I've only heard of sentiments like that (in the West) from small niche groups in Alberta.

 

[Said1]

I'm from Manitoba, and I have never heard people talk of splitting the province off from Canada. I've only heard of sentiments like that (in the West) from small niche groups in Alberta.

Darn tootin. D) I've heard Klein mention it publiclly a few times, but he's downplaying it now. To my knowledge there is no movement, only small groups of ultra-conservatives - one of which is lead by Earnest Zundle's lawyer.

 

[archangel]

Does it hurt.......I mean all that flip flopping? :tng:

Ya have to flip before you flop...I just gave a simple opinion...no stats,no links
just a good old boy conversation!

 

[HorhayAtAMD]

I'm from Manitoba, and I have never heard people talk of splitting the province off from Canada. I've only heard of sentiments like that (in the West) from small niche groups in Alberta.

No kidding. I seriously doubt that 40%+ of Albertans want to split. I wonder what the poll questions were?

 

[Said1]

No kidding. I seriously doubt that 40%+ of Albertans want to split. I wonder what the poll questions were?

If the article is any indication of the questions, every Westerner would consider it, if the price was right.

 

[Markainion]

I watched some document about this a couple of years ago, with some Rocky Mountain Western Canadians feeling like they had more in common with Americans from states like Idaho and Montana. I remember wondering what it would be like living in a Rocky Mountain and Western Canada States of America.

More seriously I think it a feeling found by many ranchers and small town folks in certain regains of the United States and Canada that too much government intervention is beginning to erode their culture and way of life. Many of my uncles being ranches feel the same way. I don’t take the talk of success seriously; I think it is just a desire to end the environment policy, which are hurting many of these communities. Many environment want to make these regions into their personally playground, but don’t care about the citizen that live their, even though most been their for more than a hundred year.

 

[Merlin1047]

Apparently we have an inadvertent double-post. I'm going to remove the duplicate thread and leave this one.

 

[USViking]

Ok, you're right, I'm wrong. You're the all wise and all knowing master Yoda Poo-bah. Ali-salemah. It's about the ultra Liberal party...and war protestors. Nothing to do with transfer payments, resource control and federal representation to name a few. Ok. You win, I lose. From this day forward, I will walk around with a bag over my head in shame. I know nothing about my country or the province where I grew up.....shame on me. I suck.

I agree!

No, er, uh... I mean you're being too hard on yourself!

I'm guessing by transfer payments the West thinks the
East is hogging oil and perhaps other mineral revenues,
while not sending enough money back West.

Clue me in on the representation- is the West fairly
represented in proportion to its population?