We’re Finally Seeing the “Evidence” Against the Migrants Deported by Trump. It’s Unbelievable.

[Delldude]

Stupidity and inefficiency. Trump keeps trying to take shortcuts which end up costing more money and taking longer than just following the law.

Lawbreaking democrats......try again.

 

[berg80]

An ‘Administrative Error’ Sends a Maryland Father to a Salvadoran Prison​

The Trump administration acknowledged in a court filing Monday that it had grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador, but said that U.S. courts lack jurisdiction to order his return from the megaprison where he’s now locked up.

The case appears to be the first time the Trump administration has admitted to errors when it sent three planeloads of Salvadoran and Venezuelan deportees to El Salvador’s grim “Terrorism Confinement Center” on March 15. Attorneys for several Venezuelan deportees have said that the Trump administration falsely labeled their clients as gang members because of their tattoos. Trump officials have disputed those claims.

An ‘Administrative Error’ Sends a Maryland Father to a Salvadoran Prison

The Trump administration says that it mistakenly deported an immigrant with protected status but that courts are powerless to order his return.

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Oooopsie.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Stupidity and inefficiency. Trump keeps trying to take shortcuts which end up costing more money and taking longer than just following the law.

If the US were to be ordered to invade Canada or Greenland, the military would remand Trump into custody.

 

[berg80]

The Trump administration acknowledged in a court filing Monday that it had grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador, but said that U.S. courts lack jurisdiction to order his return from the megaprison where he’s now locked up.

How is that possible?

 

[berg80]

Vice President JD Vance weighed into the case and falsely said on X Tuesday that Garcia was a "convicted MS-13 gang member." Garcia has no criminal convictions in the U.S. or in El Salvador, his legal team said in the lawsuit.

The regime is going to try to lie their way thru this scandal.

 

[Delldude]

The regime is going to try to lie their way thru this scandal.

Why would a bad guy seek protection from deportation?

 

[BluesLegend]

You're trying to annex my country and destroy our way of life. I have far more interest in what's going on with your country, than YOU do, asshole.

Don't you have goats to worm or whatever backwoods things you people do up there in Canada?

 

[scruffy]

What is "protected legal status"?

 

[Rumpole]

It would be difficult to forcibly deport twelve million, however, if we make it uncomfortable enough most will self-deport.

I seriously doubt it.

 

[Rumpole]

Just takes time......................Ike gave it a good shot......Remember, ravel to the moon was said to be impossible.

The Largest Mass Deportation in American History​

As many as 1.3 million people may have been swept up in the Eisenhower-era campaign called 'Operation Wetback.'

history reveals that more will come than will be deported. This is why I say it is impossible. No president has ever 'closed the border'. That, too, is impossible.

 

[Rumpole]

This OP is retarded even for the left. America is supposed to put up with illegals RAPING and MURDERING our citizens. With illegals killing several hundred thousand Americans with their drug trafficking, because of one socker player. Whatever, you people are nuts.

all demographics have a small portion who commit crimes. Your fake outrage is noted.

 

[Delldude]

No president has ever 'closed the border'. That, too, is impossible.

Think so?

On three past occasions, presidents temporarily closed the southern border, something President Donald Trump threatened Monday to do permanently.

Presidents Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan both closed the border over drug-related issues that halted entry from Mexico into the United States.

President Lyndon B. Johnson, shortly after taking office amid crisis, closed the border after the assassination of his predecessor, John F. Kennedy.

3 Times Previous Presidents Closed the Southern Border

“We will close the border permanently if need be,” President Donald Trump says.

www.dailysignal.com

history reveals that more will come than will be deported.

They can come legally.

Many are self deporting now. Deadline looming for self deportation shortly.

Here's neato way to get the leaving:

The One Simple Trick That Could Lead Illegal Immigrants To Self-Deport

President Donald Trump and his administration have thrown out the playbook on immigration. Between resurrecting an 18th-century law to deport violent criminals and running nationwide television commercials encouraging illegal immigrants to leave the country, the White House is employing anything...

www.dailywire.com

 

[AZrailwhale]

I seriously doubt it.

Oh yeah? If we change the rules to where anytime they come into contact with any governmental official, get a traffic ticket, file a tax return, pay into Social Security, apply for any governmental benefits for themselves OR their minor citizen children (anchor babies), or apply for Medicaid for medical treatment so they can't function in society they get deported, I bet they will create a stampede on their way to self-deport.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Anyone who interferes with the rights of minor citizens, including "anchor babies,' will be breaking the law and inherit the consequences.

 

[Flopper]

Illegals RAPE, MURDER, KILL Americans. Sorry but we could give two shits about this foreigner. All you illegal scumbags GTFO of OUR country and go home.

There is a right way and wrong way to handle illegal immigration. Unfortunately Trump consistently choses the wrong way.

Trump's deportation of what he assumed to be criminals and gang members is deplorable for a dozen reasons. The worst of which was his intent to deny detainees of any due process. The United States treated alleged Nazis better during World War II than the Trump administration treated Venezuelan migrants.

Now the true is starting to come out. In the rush to get these people out of the country before the courts stopped it, mistakes were made, wrong people being imprisoned, people that were not associated with any gang, and even claims of misidentification remain unchallenged in court.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

It gets old, the attacks from the right who accuse we Democrats of 'hating America' because we back Boasberg. 'You support terrorists', they keep shouting. The reply is 'no, we support due process'. Without it, we lose our republic, so it is out of LOVE for America that we back the judge, for all he is interested is that those souls get a fair hearing, so that the innocent aren't sent to some prison where their hope of freedom will be lost, probably in a hellish place for a long long time. Consider this story, which emboldens our case for 'due process'.

So it has happened that the Trump administration, that erstwhile bastion of misrule, embarked on a ruthless campaign to uproot hundreds of Venezuelan migrants scattered across this vast land. They did so with the stealth of a jackal, executing deportations without notice or the dignity of due process. These unfortunate souls were dispatched to the unforgiving confines of a prison in El Salvador--a fate as ironic as it is tragic. Now, the curtain is finally lifting on the evidence marshaled against these exiles, and it is nothing short of preposterous.

Take, for instance, the case of Jerce Reyes Barrios, a professional soccer player--yes, a player who fled the suffocating grip of dictator Nicolás Maduro in search of freedom, only to find himself ensnared by the very apparatus designed to protect him. Barrios had settled in the United States, eagerly awaiting an asylum hearing when ICE agents descended upon him like vultures. The accusation? That he was a member of the Tren de Aragua gang, a claim rooted not in hard evidence but in the flimsy fabric of xenophobic hysteria.

What, pray tell, constituted the evidence against Barrios? Two items, both laughable in their absurdity. First, a tattoo on his arm--an innocuous crown perched atop a soccer ball, allegedly emblematic of gang affiliation. The truth, as his attorney Linette Tobin clarifies, is that this tattoo is a tribute to the Real Madrid soccer team, a fact as lost on the powers that be as a whisper in a tempest. Secondly, there exists a photograph in which Barrios is gesturing with both hands--a gesture misconstrued by the ever-suspicious agents as a sign of gang allegiance. Yet, in the world of American Sign Language, this very gesture signifies “I love you,” or is often embraced as a symbol of rock 'n' roll.

Such grotesque misinterpretations seem to be a recurrent theme among those caught in this legislative nightmare. Consider another migrant, referred to as E.V., whose tattoos depict anime, flowers, and animals, yet were grotesquely rebranded as indicators of gang ties. According to his attorney, the crown adorning his skin is not a badge of criminality but a heartfelt homage to his late grandmother.

The Kafkaesque nature of this ordeal escalates as we delve into the tales of others similarly victimized. One, known as J.A.B.V., bore tattoos of a rose, a clock, and his son’s name--all benign symbols that ICE agents twisted into evidence of criminal affiliation. Despite having lived without a criminal record, he was nevertheless shipped away on the flimsiest of charges. L.G. endured a similar fate, his tattoos--one a rosary, another his partner’s name--branded as marks of gang loyalty. The absurdity reaches new heights with Anyelo Jose Sarabia, who was accused based on a tattoo of a Bible verse and a rose adorned with petals of money.

One cannot help but feel a twinge of irony: many of these individuals sought refuge from Tren de Aragua, only to be demonized as members of that very gang. A particularly poignant case involves an unnamed migrant who had applied for asylum, fleeing from the very harm he now faces, yet was unceremoniously deported while living in a New York homeless shelter with his family.

The administration seems to operate under a perverse presumption that any Venezuelan migrant bearing tattoos must be, by default, a member of Tren de Aragua, guilty until proven innocent--a condition that becomes impossible in the absence of due process. Trump’s invocation of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, under the ludicrous belief it permits the expulsion of noncitizens without judicial oversight, exposes a shocking disdain for constitutional principles. The Department of Justice, ever the willing accomplice, hastens to bypass the courts, claiming that Trump’s decisions exist in a realm beyond judicial scrutiny.

This is not the first time such absurdity has reared its head. During Trump’s initial tenure, ICE made a habit of accusing noncitizens of gang membership based on little more than inked skin. A federal judge once accused ICE agents of perjury regarding the tattoos of a DACA recipient, ultimately liberating him from unlawful detention. The lesson learned, it seems, is that when afforded the privilege of due process, these victims can challenge the flimsy fabrications that the government spins around them. In response, the authorities have concocted new legal theories, intent on preventing judicial review of their actions.

The question remains: did ICE specifically target these men based on their tattoos, or were they rounded up first, with excuses fabricated later? These details warrant scrutiny, and soon the victims’ lawyers will be entitled to interrogate the architects of this dystopian scheme. What is essential now is that judges have the opportunity to sift through the so-called evidence, allowing the scales of justice to balance before this grotesque theater evolves into a full-scale assault on the constitutional rights of all immigrants.

As we observe this unfolding drama, one cannot help but wonder where the limits of absurdity lie in this creeping authoritarianism. In the grand tapestry of American governance, this chapter stands as a cautionary tale of a nation grappling with its conscience amid a cacophony of injustice. The time has come to demand accountability, lest we descend further into a quagmire of Trumpian madness and, yes, I'll say it, it needs to be said, it needs to be shouted on rooftops across America, TYRANNY.

I've been shouting a simple message since I joined this forum short while ago, it's called 'due process'. Some said the 'gang members' got DP, but, alas, I wouldn't trust ICE nor Trump to uphold 'due process', when Trump as literally defecated all over it, for some time, now.

As the delegates finalized the U.S. Constitution, Franklin, who was 81 years old at the time, exited the hall. According to historical accounts, a woman--often identified as Elizabeth Willing Powel, a well-known Philadelphia socialite and wife of Samuel Powel--approached Franklin and asked:

"Well, Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?"

Franklin responded: "A republic, if you can keep it."

IF WE CAN KEEP IT.

I'd like to know who on this forum understands that, without upholding the core principle of due process, we won't 'keep it', it will be lost, we will become a republic of the banana variety? Please stand up a

Oh, I suppose I could holler 'I told you so', as, it seems, my chicken little predictions are coming to pass, and, are neither chicken, nor little. So......

What will keep our republic--our democracy--from falling apart? Pray for the following:

1. A balance of power among co-equal branches of government.
   We've lost Congress--too many members have donned kneepads for Trump--leaving us to rely almost entirely on the judiciary to hold the line.
2. A vigorous, independent press.
   The free press is not the enemy of the people--it’s the watchdog that keeps power in check and truth in circulation. It's the one institution that stands between tyranny and you, the citizen, it's the first amendment, and it's the first for a reason, where the second is important, but nothing protects us from tyranny more than a vigorous & free press. Note that I didn't say 'honest' or 'unbiased' because of the three, 'honest, 'bias', and 'vigorous' only the latter is not subject (as much) to interpretation.
3. A military that honors its oath.
   When they swear to defend the Constitution, it’s not just words. It’s a commitment to the rule of law, not to any one man or party.
4. A judiciary that defends the Constitution and the law.
   Judges who stand firm, even under pressure from a hostile executive branch, are the last bulwark of democracy. They must be willing to sacrifice popularity, power, or position in defense of constitutional principle.
5. We, the people.
   A republic doesn’t sustain itself. It lives or dies by the engagement, courage, and conscience of its citizens. If we stay silent while democracy is dismantled, we become accomplices. But if we vote, speak out, protest, organize, and refuse to surrender truth to propaganda--we become the immune system of the republic. No constitution, no court, no press can save democracy if the people don’t care to.

We’re Finally Seeing the “Evidence” Against the Migrants Deported by Trump. It’s Unbelievable.

We’re Finally Seeing the “Evidence” Against the Migrants Deported by Trump. It’s Unbelievable.

The Trump admin said a soccer player had a gang tattoo. It’s a tattoo of Real Madrid’s logo.

slate.com

After the Trump administration rounded up hundreds of Venezuelan migrants around the country—without notice or court hearings—and sent them off to a prison in El Salvador, we’re finally getting details on who was deported and why. And the more we learn, the more obvious it becomes why the government is so eager to expel these individuals without any semblance of due process. It claims that these men are terrorists by virtue of their alleged membership in the Tren de Aragua gang—but evidence of this affiliation is weak to the point of nonexistence.

Consider Jerce Reyes Barrios, one victim of the deportations: a professional soccer player who had fled Venezuela after protesting against dictator Nicolás Maduro and was living peacefully in the U.S. until the government snatched him up and deported him to El Salvador. Linette Tobin, Barrios’ attorney, submitted a declaration in federal court that detailed the disturbing reasons why her client was targeted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. After entering the U.S. last year, Barrios was scheduled to have an asylum hearing in April. But on Saturday, he was arrested and held at a San Diego detention facility after ICE agents accused him of being a member of Tren de Aragua, the Venezuelan gang that President Donald Trump has been fixated on to fulfill his mass-deportation plan.

Hint: nobody who values their time is going to read this.
And I see that IM2 gave it a brilliant, which for me means it's stupid/ridiculous.

MAGA

 

[Delldude]

Anyone who interferes with the rights of minor citizens, including "anchor babies,' will be breaking the law and inherit the consequences.

Not with a successful challenge.

 

[Flopper]

Oh yeah? If we change the rules to where anytime they come into contact with any governmental official, get a traffic ticket, file a tax return, pay into Social Security, apply for any governmental benefits for themselves OR their minor citizen children (anchor babies), or apply for Medicaid for medical treatment so they can't function in society they get deported, I bet they will create a stampede on their way to self-deport.

2/3 of all undocumented immigrants have lived in this county for more than 10 years. No, none of these people are going to be stampeding across the boarder. They would be leaving their homes, jobs, family and friends. And in fact many of them were brough to this country by their parents from a land they don't even remember.

 

[Flopper]

Like I said...

I think many people don't really know what due process means. Simply stated it is the the right to defend yourself in court. However, it really is a lot more than that. It ensures fairness and legal rights by requiring the government to follow established rules and procedures before depriving someone of life, liberty, or property. It applies to anyone in this country. In fact it is the only legal right that illegal aliens have.

 

[BluesLegend]

There is a right way and wrong way to handle illegal immigration.

It's NOT illegal immigration, it's an INVASION that's killed several hundred thousand Americans. They are lucky they are not bombed to rubble!