Welfare Abusers in 12 States Just Got Some Brutal Bad News

[reconmark]

In Utah, 12 tested positive, but 250 withdrew their applications when they found out they would be tested. In Michigan, in 5 weeks, before the law was halted, just under 10% tested positive, 3% of those for hard drugs.. How many didn't apply, due to knowing the law? In Florida, approximately 3% tested positive in 4 months. How many didn't apply, due to the well publicized fact testing was being done? These are just a few examples for you.

You do realize that only progressives will take anything thinkprogress puts out seriously right, or should that be left wingers posing as rightwingers?

Those drug tests make conservatives feel good but they yield painfully few violators

A waste of taxpayer dollars

Lets put it to the test and find out

-Geaux

What 7 States Discovered After Spending More Than 1 Million Drug Testing Welfare Recipients ThinkProgress

According to state data gathered by ThinkProgress, the seven states with existing programs — Arizona, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Utah — are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to ferret out very few drug users. The statistics show that applicants actually test positive at a lower rate than the drug use of the general population. The national drug use rate is 9.4 percent. In these states, however, the rate of positive drug tests to total welfare applicants ranges from 0.002 percent to 8.3 percent, but all except one have a rate below 1 percent. Meanwhile, they’ve collectively spent nearly $1 million on the effort, and millions more may have to be spent in coming years.

Feel free to show any data that shows these drug tests are making a difference

What's with people not being able to include a friggin link???

 

[depotoo]

Money from the testing? Seriously?

I find it comical that Trey Radel voted for drug testing welfare recipients and than gets busted for blow. What a hypocrite.

Because he knew it would only be applied to "those people."

The whole thing is intended to demean welfare recipient with the stereotype all welfare recipient are lazy drug using slackers...it is also a way for the GOP Governors to make money from drug testing...these laws are meant for the Ni**ers

 

[reconmark]

Feel free to show any data that shows these drug tests are making a difference

care to provide proof of this lie ?

Arizona, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Utah — are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to ferret out very few drug users. The statistics show that applicants actually test positive at a lower rate than the drug use of the general population.

have you always been a libertard ?

I guess when some folk can't even pull an excuse from their asses "libertard" is the last desperate attempt at a factual reply...

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am all for drug testing welfare recipients as long as state legislators are drug tested monthly.

 

[depotoo]

Since you can't look for yourself-
States Push Drug Testing for Welfare After Florida Ruling Stateline
From pewtrusts

In Utah, 12 tested positive, but 250 withdrew their applications when they found out they would be tested. In Michigan, in 5 weeks, before the law was halted, just under 10% tested positive, 3% of those for hard drugs.. How many didn't apply, due to knowing the law? In Florida, approximately 3% tested positive in 4 months. How many didn't apply, due to the well publicized fact testing was being done? These are just a few examples for you.

You do realize that only progressives will take anything thinkprogress puts out seriously right, or should that be left wingers posing as rightwingers?

Lets put it to the test and find out

-Geaux

What 7 States Discovered After Spending More Than 1 Million Drug Testing Welfare Recipients ThinkProgress

According to state data gathered by ThinkProgress, the seven states with existing programs — Arizona, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Utah — are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to ferret out very few drug users. The statistics show that applicants actually test positive at a lower rate than the drug use of the general population. The national drug use rate is 9.4 percent. In these states, however, the rate of positive drug tests to total welfare applicants ranges from 0.002 percent to 8.3 percent, but all except one have a rate below 1 percent. Meanwhile, they’ve collectively spent nearly $1 million on the effort, and millions more may have to be spent in coming years.

Feel free to show any data that shows these drug tests are making a difference

What's with people not being able to include a friggin link???

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Money from the testing? Seriously?

Seriously

Gov. Rick Scott's policies could benefit his family's $62M ...

www.miamiherald.com/news/politics.../article1937942.ht...

The Miami Herald

Apr 2, 2011 -Rick Scott has aggressively pursued policies like testing state workers and welfare recipients for drugs, switching Medicaid ... All these changes could benefit his wife's$62 million investment, but Scott sees no legal conflict.

 

[reconmark]

Since you can't look for yourself-
States Push Drug Testing for Welfare After Florida Ruling Stateline

In Utah, 12 tested positive, but 250 withdrew their applications when they found out they would be tested. In Michigan, in 5 weeks, before the law was halted, just under 10% tested positive, 3% of those for hard drugs.. How many didn't apply, due to knowing the law? In Florida, approximately 3% tested positive in 4 months. How many didn't apply, due to the well publicized fact testing was being done? These are just a few examples for you.

You do realize that only progressives will take anything thinkprogress puts out seriously right, or should that be left wingers posing as rightwingers?

What 7 States Discovered After Spending More Than 1 Million Drug Testing Welfare Recipients ThinkProgress

According to state data gathered by ThinkProgress, the seven states with existing programs — Arizona, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Utah — are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to ferret out very few drug users. The statistics show that applicants actually test positive at a lower rate than the drug use of the general population. The national drug use rate is 9.4 percent. In these states, however, the rate of positive drug tests to total welfare applicants ranges from 0.002 percent to 8.3 percent, but all except one have a rate below 1 percent. Meanwhile, they’ve collectively spent nearly $1 million on the effort, and millions more may have to be spent in coming years.

Feel free to show any data that shows these drug tests are making a difference

What's with people not being able to include a friggin link???

You posted it, it's YOUR JOB to provide the link...duh!!!

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

“All of these [drug testing] programs are making unfair and unsupported assumptions about poor people.”

 

[reconmark]

An ACLU analysis of Florida's drug-testing law found that in the four months before it was halted by a judge, 108 applicants out of 4,086 tested positive.

 

[Shipwreck]

Multigenerational profesional layabouts should be sterilized and put in work camps. They are a bane on society.

 

[reconmark]

Where savings are reported, they are relatively modest. In its first year with a questionnaire-plus-testing policy, Utah reportedly spent $30,000 on the screening to net 12 positive tests. In total, 250 people were denied benefits, in most cases because they didn't complete the process. As a result, the state saved $350,000 in benefits not paid.

Did they find a job????...nah...it had to be they were drug users according to some posters...

 

[reconmark]

Multigenerational profesional layabouts should be sterilized and put in work camps. They are a bane on society.

Sooner or later the truly ignorant were bound to appear...

 

[depotoo]

Some more, from Michigan-
In 1999, Michigan introduced a pilot program to test all recipients of FIP cash assistance for drug use, with the goal to implement the program statewide by April 2003. A drug test was required of every FIP recipient and applicant, meaning that the program was "suspicionless". If the program had been implemented fully, FIP eligibility would have been made contingent on a negative result on the drug test. While it was in effect, the pilot program tested 435 applicants for drug use; 10.3% of them tested positive.
http://www.senate.michigan.gov/sfa/Publications/Notes/2012Notes/NotesSum12fc.pdf

 

[reconmark]

Some more, from Michigan-
In 1999, Michigan introduced a pilot program to test all recipients of FIP cash assistance for drug use, with the goal to implement the program statewide by April 2003. A drug test was required of every FIP recipient and applicant, meaning that the program was "suspicionless". If the program had been implemented fully, FIP eligibility would have been made contingent on a negative result on the drug test. While it was in effect, the pilot program tested 435 applicants for drug use; 10.3% of them tested positive.
http://www.senate.michigan.gov/sfa/Publications/Notes/2012Notes/NotesSum12fc.pdf

Really???

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Wouldn't drug testing all welfare recipients cost more? Who is expected to pay for that additional expense?

Make the welfare recipient pay for it. Why the fuck does everything have to be free?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I find it comical that Trey Radel voted for drug testing welfare recipients and than gets busted for blow. What a hypocrite.

Because he knew it would only be applied to "those people."

The whole thing is intended to demean welfare recipient with the stereotype all welfare recipient are lazy drug using slackers...it is also a way for the GOP Governors to make money from drug testing...these laws are meant for the Ni**ers

Being on welfare shouldnt be easy. And I damn sure dont care if they get their feelings hurt.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Wouldn't drug testing all welfare recipients cost more? Who is expected to pay for that additional expense?

We pay too much now to abusers of the system. Test them and kick them off if positive can only be a good thing.

 

[depotoo]

Relatively modest is actually not looking at the costs saved by those not applying. It then goes on to show a saving of $350,000.
Didn't complete the process, drug testing.
Not only that, in a number of states they actually have programs they offer to these recipients, to help them beat their drug use. They also know, if their are kids in the custody of these recipients, and there is hard drug use, they know they need to check the welfare of these kids. Do understand, the kids benefits are not denied. The benefits of parents drug free to these children cannot be measured.

Where savings are reported, they are relatively modest. In its first year with a questionnaire-plus-testing policy, Utah reportedly spent $30,000 on the screening to net 12 positive tests. In total, 250 people were denied benefits, in most cases because they didn't complete the process. As a result, the state saved $350,000 in benefits not paid.

Did they find a job????...nah...it had to be they were drug users according to some posters...

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I find it comical that Trey Radel voted for drug testing welfare recipients and than gets busted for blow. What a hypocrite.

Because he knew it would only be applied to "those people."

The whole thing is intended to demean welfare recipient with the stereotype all welfare recipient are lazy drug using slackers...it is also a way for the GOP Governors to make money from drug testing...these laws are meant for the Ni**ers

Being on welfare shouldnt be easy. And I damn sure dont care if they get their feelings hurt.

Being on welfare is never easy jag off

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Shouldn't farmers who receive taxpayer funded crop subsidies have to prove they are not wasting the money on drugs?

Shouldn't the recipients of massive corporate welfare have to prove they're not on drugs?

Or that matter, I'd like to see them show us how they're spending the tax payer's money.