Listening to the Democrat response to yesterday's speech shows clearly that not only don't they have any class, but that they don't have minds of their own.
Yesterday, in response to the speech Obama showed how petty he could be by claiming the speech had nothing new in it.
Folks, as long as we argue about this subject, liberals, like the parrots they are, will repeat this stupid phrase.
The speech had nothing new.
Of course not!! Everyone knows you can't trust Iran, so why negotiate like you believe they are trustworthy? This administration is so ready to make a deal, any deal, that they are willing to sell us out to do it. They just want headliness proclaiming they got a deal. It's utterly stupid, but this is the Obama administration in a nutshell.
Democrats showed their lack of class, some by not showing up for the speech, and others by acting rude when they did. Nancy Pelosi grudgingly stood up every time there was a standing ovation, but turning her back to him before she sat down, or in other words saying "kiss my ass". This is your Democrat today. A bunch of race-baiting, Jew-hating scumbags. They are a bunch of jerks pissing on our friends while sucking up to our enemies.
Yeah, don't be so partisan.
Experts Discuss Framework for a Final Iran Nuclear Agreement
Experts Discuss Framework for a Final Iran Nuclear Agreement Brookings Institution
"In his remarks, Einhorn stressed three fundamental requirements for a potential agreement:
- A final agreement should provide for as much transparency surrounding Iran's nuclear-related activities as possible, including monitoring and other confidence-building measures beyond the IAEA Additional Protocol.
- Iran’s timeline for nuclear breakout should be lengthened to allow the international community to intervene decisively if Iran is found in violation of agreement protocols.
- A deal must be accompanied by consensus among the President, the Congress, and Washington's international partners that an attempt by Iran to violate the agreement would be met with a swift and firm international response that may include use of military force."
Look, Iran has proved for the last 3 decades to be a major player in terrorism, and trying to ignore it is total insanity. You're crazy if you think they'll be any more trustworthy than Saddam or any other despotic regime. Trusting either party in these negotiations is an exercise in futility. Every scandal this administration has started only proves that transparency is a pipe-dream, and any idiot that expects it from them is just about as retarded as one can get.
This isn't about keeping nukes from the Iranians. This is about giving Obama something to crow about and something for liberals to hang their collective hats on. It's about talking-points and Obama doesn't give a flying **** what the consequences are. He figures if Israel burns it's no skin off of his nuts. He hates Jews with a passion anyway
Look, the United States has proven over the past three or four decades it will start preemptive wars and invade countries with little reason, or a media blitz and false pretexts. It's government is bought and sold by greedy corporations and bankers, its media propagandizes its population so it believes erroneous lies about other nations, just so it's government can meddle in other nations internal politics. This has happened repeatedly time and time again.
Let's TRY not to forget, this is not just a deal between the US and Iran? Why are you making this only about "Obama?" There are many other nations involved in the P5+1 deal that ALL have a stake in the legitimacy and truthfulness of Iran becoming a responsible member of the international community. I don't know why you want to buy MSM propaganda funded and supported by Israeli interest groups and neo-con groups with financial ties to corporate profits hinging on the project for the New Middle East?
Let's just say what you say is true, Obama "He hates Jews with a passion anyway" and, "It's about talking-points and Obama doesn't give a flying **** what the consequences are. He figures if Israel burns it's no skin off of his nuts"
Let's just say, "This isn't about keeping nukes from the Iranians. This is about giving Obama something to crow about and something for liberals to hang their collective hats on."
Perhaps I can even agree with you on what you say about the transparency issue.
But like I said, this isn't about the US. It isn't about Obama.
Russia and Putin are far more competent. So are the Chinese.
Do you have ANY idea how much money the Germans have invested over there? This isn't about "Obama's" legacy or reputation. The Germans don't give a flying **** about Obama. They want the Iranians to SHOW ME THE MONEY!
"Germany is the key trading partner of Iran.[4] Iran's nuclear program depends mainly upon German products and services. For example, the thousands of centrifuges used to enrich the uranium are controlled by Siemens "Simatic WinCC Step7" software.[5][6] Around 50 German firms have their own branch offices in Iran and more than 12,000 firms have their own trade representatives in Iran. Several well-known German companies are involved in major Iranian infrastructure projects, especially in the petrochemical sector, like Linde, BASF, Lurgi, Krupp, Siemens, ZF Friedrichshafen, Mercedes, Volkswagen and MAN (2008).[7]
In 2005, Germany had the largest share of Iran's export market with $5.67 billion (14.4%).[8] In 2008, German exports to Iran increased by 8.9 percent and comprised 84.7 percent of the total German-Iranian trade volume. The overall bilateral trade volume until the end of September 2008 stood at 3.23 billion euros, compared to 2.98 billion euros the previous year.[7][9] The value of trade between Tehran and Berlin increased from around 4.3 billion euro in 2009 to nearly 4.7 billion euro in 2010.[10]
The Association of German Chambers of Industry and Commerce has estimated that economic sanctions against Iran may cost more than 10,000 German jobs and have a negative impact on the economic growth of Germany. Sanctions would especially hurt medium-sized German companies, which depend heavily on trade with Iran.[7] There has been a shift in German business ties with Iran from long-term business to short-term and from large to mid-sized companies which have fewer business interests in the US and thus are less prone to U.S. political pressure.[11]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P5+1
So rather than be seen as the world power that is preventing peace, the US is just facilitating WHAT EVERY OTHER NATION IN THE WORLD, (Britain, France, Germany, Russia, China, oh, except Israel) WANTS,
PEACE!
It's better to trade and make our lives better, than to try and steal land, enslave people and be bellicose forever.
But when it all comes down to it, we don't see the Iranians bitching, even though the conservatives and Israelis are always going off about what a dangerous nation they are, and how we need to subvert their government.
Iran Worried U.S. Might Be Building 8,500th Nuclear Weapon
TEHRAN—Amidst mounting geopolitical tensions, Iranian officials said Wednesday they were increasingly concerned about the United States of America's uranium-enrichment program, fearing the Western nation may soon be capable of producing its 8,500th nuclear weapon. "Our intelligence estimates indicate that, if it is allowed to progress with its aggressive nuclear program, the United States may soon possess its 8,500th atomic weapon capable of reaching Iran," said Iranian foreign minister Ali Akbar Salehi, adding that Americans have the fuel, the facilities, and "everything they need" to manufacture even more weapons-grade fissile material. "Obviously, the prospect of this happening is very distressing to Iran and all countries like Iran. After all, the United States is a volatile nation that's proven it needs little provocation to attack anyone anywhere in the world whom it perceives to be a threat.
Iran Worried U.S. Might Be Building 8 500th Nuclear Weapon The Onion - America s Finest News Source
Do yourself a favor, turn off the TV, and don't take what you hear on the radio seriously.