WE TOLD You SO!!! Once again from the mouth of the LEADER of ACA's supposed Exchanges!

[healthmyths]

Without venturing a specific percentage increase, Marilyn Tavenner, the president and CEO of America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), said in an interview with Morning Consult that the culmination of market shifts and rising health care costs will force stark increases in health insurance rates in the coming year.
But I think the overall trend is going to be higher than we saw previous years. That’s my big prediction.”
If Tavenner is right, Obamacare will jump dramatically—last year’s premium for the popular silver-level plan surged 11 percent on average. Although Tavenner didn’t mention deductibles, in 2016, some states saw jumps of 76 percent, while the average deductible for a 27-year-old male on a silver plan was 8 percent.
Get Ready for Huge Obamacare Premium Hikes in 2017

This whole fiasco was based on a totally bogus number i.e. there never were 46 million uninsured Americans that were legal, knowledgeable and WANTED health insurance! Phony bogus number!

A) 10 million NOT Americans... Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
B) 14 million didn't know qualified for Medicaid http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.
So all Obama's inept administration need do was REGISTER this 14 million!

C) Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 --
over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually. -
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

The ignorant absolute stupid premise that these 18 million Americans under 34 would sign up is the first major problem. They did have insurance through their employer... just didn't want or NEED the expense so they pay their health services out of pocket! But those idiots of Obamacare thought these 18 million would sign up!

The OTHER major fallacy was doing away with "pre-existing conditions" entirely!

HoW stupid. Actuarial methods calculate how long people with "pre-existing conditions" LIKE smoking
would live. So prior to ACA insurance would charge a smoker a higher rate because the smoker is RESPONSIBLE!!!

Before health reform, nearly all states allowed insurers to charge people who use tobacco a higher price for coverage.
The ACA curtails but does not eliminate this practice, and most, but not all, states followed the federal approach (Exhibit 1).
We found that, in order to make coverage more affordable for a greater number of Americans, policymakers in 10 states and the District of Columbia chose to further limit the power of insurance companies to raise prices on tobacco users.
Insurance Premium Surcharges for Smokers May Jeopardize Access to Coverage

SO here is another COST factor the idiots never considered!
ALL Obamacare insured pay the same amount SMOKER OR NON-SMOKER!!!
How f...king dumb!

 

[Steven_R]

Step 1: Wreck the system with a terrible law
Step 2: When the masses demand it be fixed, we roll out Single Payer.

It was designed to do this from the beginning.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yup and almost there. A President Trump would make it happen next year.

 

[Steven_R]

It doesn't matter who gets elected, Trump or Cruz or Sanders or Clinton, or whoever, the system will collapse in the next administration.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No, it won't, but your mind might when it does not.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No, it won't, but your mind might when it does not.

So all of the exchanges shutting down means nothing?

 

[westwall]

No, it won't, but your mind might when it does not.

So all of the exchanges shutting down means nothing?

It doesn't to mindless fools. The progressives like starkey here, can't understand how economics works. They think you plug a dollar in and you get a dollars worth out. That's not how the world works. There is always loss along the way and those who don't calculate in for the loss, go the way of the Dodo bird.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Does westwall not have a clue about ACA? From the beginning the goal was single payer. Think about it.

 

[Arianrhod]

No, it won't, but your mind might when it does not.

So all of the exchanges shutting down means nothing?

It means, if the voters are intelligent and informed (two big "ifs," considering how much money the Kochs are plowing into keeping them ignorant), they'll vote out the state legislators who refused the Medicaid expansion.

In the meantime, it means those insureds disenfranchised by Stupid State Legislator Tricks can be guided toward other means of coverage.

The PPACA is not going away, no matter how much y'all sob about it. But the louder you cry, the faster we move toward single-payer.

We told you so.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No, it won't, but your mind might when it does not.

So all of the exchanges shutting down means nothing?

It means, if the voters are intelligent and informed (two big "ifs," considering how much money the Kochs are plowing into keeping them ignorant), they'll vote out the state legislators who refused the Medicaid expansion.

In the meantime, it means those insureds disenfranchised by Stupid State Legislator Tricks can be guided toward other means of coverage.

The PPACA is not going away, no matter how much y'all sob about it. But the louder you cry, the faster we move toward single-payer.

We told you so.

What a tard.
So what happens when the gov stops paying after three years and it falls on the states to pick up the tab?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Libs celebrate another fat lie told to the public....like they always do

 

[westwall]

Does westwall not have a clue about ACA? From the beginning the goal was single payer. Think about it.

So, you're telling us the officials knowingly lied to the people of this country and intentionally trotted out a product that was shit. All with the goal of having it fail so bad that the people would demand single payer to replace it. That about cover it?

Think about what you are claiming (I am not saying you are wrong at all BTW) and then think about what that means the politicians and the wealthy elite think of you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The politicians got what they thought they were able to get and no more. No one said ACA was the final product. If someone did, tell us, westall. It's not failing despite all the caterwauling, and the fact is that the GOP now is committed to "something" but just what they don't know. The American people approve of it about 1/3d and another 1/3d want it improved. The Sanders expanded medicare solution will eventually be the modified path that it takes, imo.

 

[dblack]

Single payer, of the sort liberals are imagining, won't happen. What we will get is something even worse, a central cabal of three or four insurance companies running the show. Every time they want to increase prices, they'll just start threatening to close up shop and Congress will appease them at our expense.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Single payer, of the sort liberals are imagining, won't happen. What we will get is something even worse, a central cabal of three or four insurance companies running the show. Every time they want to increase prices, they'll just start threatening to close up shop and Congress will appease them at our expense.

Nah. Make it single payer and make the companies bid. They will turn on each other.

 

[healthmyths]

Does westwall not have a clue about ACA? From the beginning the goal was single payer. Think about it.

So, you're telling us the officials knowingly lied to the people of this country and intentionally trotted out a product that was shit. All with the goal of having it fail so bad that the people would demand single payer to replace it. That about cover it?

Think about what you are claiming (I am not saying you are wrong at all BTW) and then think about what that means the politicians and the wealthy elite think of you.

OBAMA SAID IN HIS OWN WORDS!!!
"I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody.
Obama statements on single-payer have changed a bit

 

[dblack]

Single payer, of the sort liberals are imagining, won't happen. What we will get is something even worse, a central cabal of three or four insurance companies running the show. Every time they want to increase prices, they'll just start threatening to close up shop and Congress will appease them at our expense.

Nah. Make it single payer and make the companies bid. They will turn on each other.

They'll fuck us blind. And Congress will be more than happy to assist them.

 

[healthmyths]

Single payer, of the sort liberals are imagining, won't happen. What we will get is something even worse, a central cabal of three or four insurance companies running the show. Every time they want to increase prices, they'll just start threatening to close up shop and Congress will appease them at our expense.

Nah. Make it single payer and make the companies bid. They will turn on each other.

Guess what you idiot!

1,400 insurance companies go out of business! They pay collectively $100 billion a year in taxes! Where will that come from to replace their tax revenue?
450,000 people laid off at $300/week for 99 Weeks... Over $13 billion in unemployment checks... How f...king DUMB!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Single payer, of the sort liberals are imagining, won't happen. What we will get is something even worse, a central cabal of three or four insurance companies running the show. Every time they want to increase prices, they'll just start threatening to close up shop and Congress will appease them at our expense.

Nah. Make it single payer and make the companies bid. They will turn on each other.

Guess what you idiot!

1,400 insurance companies go out of business! They pay collectively $100 billion a year in taxes! Where will that come from to replace their tax revenue?
450,000 people laid off at $300/week for 99 Weeks... Over $13 billion in unemployment checks... How f...king DUMB!

The health care industry will grow exponentially as more and more American are able to get quality, accessible, and affordable health care. That means there will be hundreds of thousand more jobs. The industry, however, wont die as many companies will pool to care to offer bids, decent bids. It's a win win.

 

[healthmyths]

Single payer, of the sort liberals are imagining, won't happen. What we will get is something even worse, a central cabal of three or four insurance companies running the show. Every time they want to increase prices, they'll just start threatening to close up shop and Congress will appease them at our expense.

Nah. Make it single payer and make the companies bid. They will turn on each other.

Guess what you idiot!

1,400 insurance companies go out of business! They pay collectively $100 billion a year in taxes! Where will that come from to replace their tax revenue?
450,000 people laid off at $300/week for 99 Weeks... Over $13 billion in unemployment checks... How f...king DUMB!

The health care industry will grow exponentially as more and more American are able to get quality, accessible, and affordable health care. That means there will be hundreds of thousand more jobs. The industry, however, wont die as many companies will pool to care to offer bids, decent bids. It's a win win.

MORE AND MORE Americans HAVE access BEFORE ACA! remember 10 million were not citizens of the 46 million... 14 million didn't know they were eligible Medicaid because the ineptness of Obama administration to register them. Finally 18 million under age 34 HAD access to health care already! They just didn't need to pay for insurance premiums as their out of pocket would cover the expenses.
Finally there still will be a reduction of the 1,400 companies down to what 5? They will let people go! It is NOT a win win with a government interference in 320 million people lives !