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No, not close down the country, a nationwide mask mandate? Totally within reason and needed. The science is clear.

KDHE: Kansas "Experiment" Shows Masks Work | WIBW News Now
For crying out loud, they have less than 3 million people living in the state. In comparison, New York City alone has over 8 million people.
Same results in Tennessee.


The science really does not get any simpler than that.
 

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No, not close down the country, a nationwide mask mandate? Totally within reason and needed. The science is clear.
KDHE: Kansas "Experiment" Shows Masks Work | WIBW News Now
So we're supposed to follow orders from liberals? What happened to this being a free country?
You “follow orders” from the public Health specialists. You do not have a right to infect other people.
This is America, I can do whatever I want.
 

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No, not close down the country, a nationwide mask mandate? Totally within reason and needed. The science is clear.

KDHE: Kansas "Experiment" Shows Masks Work | WIBW News Now
For crying out loud, they have less than 3 million people living in the state. In comparison, New York City alone has over 8 million people.
Same results in Tennessee.


The science really does not get any simpler than that.
The US has 33 states with mask mandates, yet there are problems with a mandate and states with none.

 

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No, not close down the country, a nationwide mask mandate? Totally within reason and needed. The science is clear.
KDHE: Kansas "Experiment" Shows Masks Work | WIBW News Now
So we're supposed to follow orders from liberals? What happened to this being a free country?
You “follow orders” from the public Health specialists. You do not have a right to infect other people.
If you're going to accuse others of harming you, then you better be able to prove it in court, otherwise you can just shut your dickhole and fuck off right back to wherever you came from.

I don't give a tinker's damn how outraged you are, my behavior is none of your goddamn business you fucking nosy busybody.
 

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No, not close down the country, a nationwide mask mandate? Totally within reason and needed. The science is clear.
KDHE: Kansas "Experiment" Shows Masks Work | WIBW News Now
So we're supposed to follow orders from liberals? What happened to this being a free country?
You “follow orders” from the public Health specialists. You do not have a right to infect other people.
This is America, I can do whatever I want.
This is America, a nation of laws.
 

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As the data clearly shows, it would be worse without a mask mandate.

University of Kansas study shows masks' effectiveness in fight against COVID-19
Then why didn't it work everywhere? As I pointed out, the state has less than 3 million people. It's likely that they are so spread out in most cases that distancing between themselves helped out the most. Plus the mask mandate was not enforced.
How do you not understand clear data? Where mask mandates were put in place, infection rates stayed flat. No masks, double the infection rates. It's not rocket surgery.
 

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No, not close down the country, a nationwide mask mandate? Totally within reason and needed. The science is clear.

KDHE: Kansas "Experiment" Shows Masks Work | WIBW News Now
For crying out loud, they have less than 3 million people living in the state. In comparison, New York City alone has over 8 million people.
Same results in Tennessee.


The science really does not get any simpler than that.
The US has 33 states with mask mandates, yet there are problems with a mandate and states with none.

Correct. The problem is the states with none.
 

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Correct. The problem is the states with none.
I don't know how you can make that statement when you're talking to a person that lives in one of those mask mandated states, and sees cases going up. Several of those mask mandated states are having problems just like we are.

I don't believe mask wearing doesn't help, but this is a virus for crying out loud. There really is no way to fight it to the end.
 

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How do you not understand clear data? Where mask mandates were put in place, infection rates stayed flat. No masks, double the infection rates. It's not rocket surgery.





Correct, this is not rocket surgery; whatever the hell rocket surgery is.
 

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How do you not understand clear data? Where mask mandates were put in place, infection rates stayed flat. No masks, double the infection rates. It's not rocket surgery.





Correct, this is not rocket surgery; whatever the hell rocket surgery is.
How do you not get that it would be much worse without the mask mandates?
 

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How do you not understand clear data? Where mask mandates were put in place, infection rates stayed flat. No masks, double the infection rates. It's not rocket surgery.





Correct, this is not rocket surgery; whatever the hell rocket surgery is.
How do you not get that it would be much worse without the mask mandates?
How do you still believe masks help?
 

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How do you not get that it would be much worse without the mask mandates?
How? Because apparently there is no evidence of it. Your claim was that states with mandated mask wearing did so much better than states that did not, and that's completely false. I live in one of those states. I provided you with a couple (of many) states that had the same results.

This is all new to us; less than 8 months. While we have learned a lot, found better treatments, provided more testing, there simply is no solution to this problem until a vaccine comes out. Yes, we can live like this for nearly a year, a year, maybe a little over a year, but we cannot live like this for several. What's the point of living in an environment where you're scared to leave your home, go to school, go to work, go shopping?

To put it another way: Let's say (God forbid) your doctor only gave you one more year to live. Would you want to continue living this way?
 

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How do you not get that it would be much worse without the mask mandates?
How? Because apparently there is no evidence of it. Your claim was that states with mandated mask wearing did so much better than states that did not, and that's completely false. I live in one of those states. I provided you with a couple (of many) states that had the same results.

This is all new to us; less than 8 months. While we have learned a lot, found better treatments, provided more testing, there simply is no solution to this problem until a vaccine comes out. Yes, we can live like this for nearly a year, a year, maybe a little over a year, but we cannot live like this for several. What's the point of living in an environment where you're scared to leave your home, go to school, go to work, go shopping?

To put it another way: Let's say (God forbid) your doctor only gave you one more year to live. Would you want to continue living this way?
There is plenty of evidence. Rates of infection in non mask counties are double that of masked ones.

It's a simple thing, wearing a mask, that would save thousands of lives.

 

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How do you not understand clear data? Where mask mandates were put in place, infection rates stayed flat. No masks, double the infection rates. It's not rocket surgery.





Correct, this is not rocket surgery; whatever the hell rocket surgery is.
How do you not get that it would be much worse without the mask mandates?
How do you still believe masks help?
Because I believe in facts and follow the science.
 

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How do you not understand clear data? Where mask mandates were put in place, infection rates stayed flat. No masks, double the infection rates. It's not rocket surgery.





Correct, this is not rocket surgery; whatever the hell rocket surgery is.
How do you not get that it would be much worse without the mask mandates?
How do you still believe masks help?
Because I believe in facts and follow the science.
I believe what I see with my own 2 eyes.
Not what some officials who have been wrong about everything so far say.
 

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There is plenty of evidence. Rates of infection in non mask counties are double that of masked ones.

It's a simple thing, wearing a mask, that would save thousands of lives.
Yet in Sweden, they never closed down, never had a mask mandate, never social distanced, they simply told those of advanced age and compromising medical conditions to be careful and stay out of the public when possible, and they're doing better than anybody.
 

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There is plenty of evidence. Rates of infection in non mask counties are double that of masked ones.

It's a simple thing, wearing a mask, that would save thousands of lives.
Yet in Sweden, they never closed down, never had a mask mandate, never social distanced, they simply told those of advanced age and compromising medical conditions to be careful and stay out of the public when possible, and they're doing better than anybody.
Yes they did. It wasn’t mandated, but the citizens of Sweden follow the recommended guidelines. They socially distance and they wear masks.
 

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Oh, and...

 

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How do you not understand clear data? Where mask mandates were put in place, infection rates stayed flat. No masks, double the infection rates. It's not rocket surgery.





Correct, this is not rocket surgery; whatever the hell rocket surgery is.
How do you not get that it would be much worse without the mask mandates?
How do you still believe masks help?
Because I believe in facts and follow the science.
The people who say mask wearing is not necessary are the same people who insisted the world is flat, back in the day.
Maybe some of these idiots think the world is flat.
Trump has given a voice to the stupidest among us.
 

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