Zone1 We need to Return to 1940's Values on Sex Outside Marriage. Desperately.

You can't prove a negative.
But no one would deny that one of the top principle reasons relationships fail is selfishness. And today, I don't think anyone would argue that kids lack social skills due to so much time on social media rather than being in person.
We are redoing the "me generation" all over again. Only worse.
It's just that you assertively stated sex outside marriage does not cause broken relationships. When you state it that way, you need proof.
 
Focusing on birth control, I would disagree. Why would a married couple using birth control be immoral?
Artificial birth control reduces sex to a purely mechanical act for the sake of itself. It precludes the unitive, procreative aspect.
 
It's just that you assertively stated sex outside marriage does not cause broken relationships. When you state it that way, you need proof.
Sex before marriage does not cause marriages to fail. That is just silly.
You should study a bit about Alfred Kinsey. Not about who HE was, he was pretty out there, but what his studies found in the 1950s-60s. Landmark studies. How ignorant the average adult was during this period was astounding. Because most people never had sex before marriage, and no one talked about it - the vast majority of Americans sex life was abysmal. And most women hated it.
Is that what you want to go back to?
 
Sex before marriage does not cause marriages to fail. That is just silly.
You should study a bit about Alfred Kinsey. Not about who HE was, he was pretty out there, but what his studies found in the 1950s-60s. Landmark studies. How ignorant the average adult was during this period was astounding. Because most people never had sex before marriage, and no one talked about it - the vast majority of Americans sex life was abysmal. And most women hated it.
Is that what you want to go back to?
Again, you assert without proof. And what makes you think people told the truth to Kinsey or that he reported the truth?
And about sex lives of most Americans being abysmal, I doubt many married men would say that. Even when sex is bad as the saying goes, it's pretty good. On the issue of selfishness, I agree with you. But I would also say women didn't see themselves as perpetual victims as many do now. It took decades of leftwing media pounding for women to say "Yeah, we're unhappy with our lot in life, come to think of it." My mother was the classic 1950s housewife and mom said "the problem today is women aren't content. I was always happy and content". Life is what you make it, in other words.
 
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When you say “licit sex” you mean sex between two consenting people?
No. Licit sex is coitus between a man and woman married to each other. That's the only kind.
 
Not me. The lefties bashing Trump's earlier acts apparently are.
He's definitely a low down sinning sonovabitch. But all the Church going Christians knew it when he was elected, as always been a sleaze, and still carried the vote of the church going Christians.
 
He's definitely a low down sinning sonovabitch. But all the Church going Christians knew it when he was elected, as always been a sleaze, and still carried the vote of the church going Christians.
Trump has no doubt been a great family man for two decades. Now take Bill Clinton. He had women indiscriminately and continued to do so long after leaving office. Yet you voted for him, didn't you?
 
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Even the most diehard atheism would have to admit there is a lot of intersection between Christian laws and "good" laws. School boards could enact classes teaching abstinence and Christian sexual morality without mention of religion.
Uh, yes and no. Laws and good laws do intersect, but they are not required to be the same. Sexual morality is subjective, Nothing you can say will change that.

Would you propose that all meals served in public schools be required to be kosher and halal or Jewish and Muslim students?
 
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I think there is, to a certain extent, in Washington.

My niece had an eight year relationship, and when the boyfriend dumped her in an emotionally devastating way, she was told by an attorney that she might be eligible to sue for half of what he is worth. I don't know why she hasn't pursued this, but she still has at least a year, if we're working with a three year statute of limitations. I'm going to push this when she comes for a two-week visit next month.

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It's called "palimony". You should look it up.
 
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