we need to repeal Obamacare and replace it with Medicare For All, my friends

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Obviously, you made that up. The US pays more per person for HC then anyother free nation in the world.

Yes I just said USA pays 4 times more than it should thanks to govt involvement. We need to shift to capitalism wherein there is competition to bring price down and quality up. Are you still confused???

This is the top of the stupid list for the day.

Yes yours was. Before Medicare and Medicaid, the elderly died horribly. So yes, if all you want to do is insure healthy people by private insurance, it’s cheaper to let 10s of thousands die. Obamacare and Medicare are both using private insurance which has to profitize. Plus, gov. Paid insurance is not allowed to negotiate. The gop has insured that their donors get their cuts. So it’s still expensive because even Medicare is not all public funded....only 80%. Other nations don’t have a Republican Party of the stupid.

You don't seem to understand the most basic thing. Socialism (monopoly& bureaucracy) impoverishes countries. This is why 60 million slowly starved to death in USSR and Red China. Ever heard of East /West Germany, Cuba/Florida? Socialism in cars and health would make them very expensive until nobody could afford them. This is what Biden/ AOC/ Sanders/ Warren want for all of America. Now do you understand? Notice the way a conservative is made to feel like a kindergarten teacher?

 

[Dagosa]

We should and we do have constitutional limits on our government , that is defined by the courts not you or some redneck bubba from the hate party, by the way not me either.

The Constitution is already defined. That was the point behind writing it down. The Court merely applies that definition.

The reason I asked about Constitutional limits on government is because many liberals get defensive and angry at any suggestion that government should be limited. They tend to think that democracy should always carry the day, despite the Constitution. Glad to hear you're not like that.

Obviously, you made that up. The US pays more per person for HC then anyother free nation in the world.

Yes I just said USA pays 4 times more than it should thanks to govt involvement. We need to shift to capitalism wherein there is competition to bring price down and quality up. Are you still confused???

This is the top of the stupid list for the day.

Yes yours was. Before Medicare and Medicaid, the elderly died horribly. So yes, if all you want to do is insure healthy people by private insurance, it’s cheaper to let 10s of thousands die. Obamacare and Medicare are both using private insurance which has to profitize. Plus, gov. Paid insurance is not allowed to negotiate. The gop has insured that their donors get their cuts. So it’s still expensive because even Medicare is not all public funded....only 80%. Other nations don’t have a Republican Party of the stupid.

You don't seem to understand the most basic thing. Socialism (monopoly& bureaucracy) impoverishes countries. This is why 60 million slowly starved to death in USSR and Red China. Ever heard of East /West Germany, Cuba/Florida? Socialism in cars and health would make them very expensive until nobody could afford them. This is what Biden/ AOC/ Sanders/ Warren want for all of America. Now do you understand? Notice the way a conservative is made to feel like a kindergarten teacher?

oh yah.
one in eight people in the US live in poverty. In more socialistic Sweden, it’s 1 in 20.
its the same with other democratic Socialist countries ...less poverty.

 

[dblack]

We should and we do have constitutional limits on our government , that is defined by the courts not you or some redneck bubba from the hate party, by the way not me either.

The Constitution is already defined. That was the point behind writing it down. The Court merely applies that definition.

The reason I asked about Constitutional limits on government is because many liberals get defensive and angry at any suggestion that government should be limited. They tend to think that democracy should always carry the day, despite the Constitution. Glad to hear you're not like that.

Obviously, you made that up. The US pays more per person for HC then anyother free nation in the world.

Yes I just said USA pays 4 times more than it should thanks to govt involvement. We need to shift to capitalism wherein there is competition to bring price down and quality up. Are you still confused???

This is the top of the stupid list for the day.

Yes yours was. Before Medicare and Medicaid, the elderly died horribly. So yes, if all you want to do is insure healthy people by private insurance, it’s cheaper to let 10s of thousands die. Obamacare and Medicare are both using private insurance which has to profitize. Plus, gov. Paid insurance is not allowed to negotiate. The gop has insured that their donors get their cuts. So it’s still expensive because even Medicare is not all public funded....only 80%. Other nations don’t have a Republican Party of the stupid.

You don't seem to understand the most basic thing. Socialism (monopoly& bureaucracy) impoverishes countries. This is why 60 million slowly starved to death in USSR and Red China. Ever heard of East /West Germany, Cuba/Florida? Socialism in cars and health would make them very expensive until nobody could afford them. This is what Biden/ AOC/ Sanders/ Warren want for all of America. Now do you understand? Notice the way a conservative is made to feel like a kindergarten teacher?

oh yah.
one in eight people in the US live in poverty. In more socialistic Sweden, it’s 1 in 20.

Also, ABBA!

 

[Andylusion]

We should and we do have constitutional limits on our government , that is defined by the courts not you or some redneck bubba from the hate party, by the way not me either.

The Constitution is already defined. That was the point behind writing it down. The Court merely applies that definition.

The reason I asked about Constitutional limits on government is because many liberals get defensive and angry at any suggestion that government should be limited. They tend to think that democracy should always carry the day, despite the Constitution. Glad to hear you're not like that.

Obviously, you made that up. The US pays more per person for HC then anyother free nation in the world.

Yes I just said USA pays 4 times more than it should thanks to govt involvement. We need to shift to capitalism wherein there is competition to bring price down and quality up. Are you still confused???

This is the top of the stupid list for the day.

Yes yours was. Before Medicare and Medicaid, the elderly died horribly. So yes, if all you want to do is insure healthy people by private insurance, it’s cheaper to let 10s of thousands die. Obamacare and Medicare are both using private insurance which has to profitize. Plus, gov. Paid insurance is not allowed to negotiate. The gop has insured that their donors get their cuts. So it’s still expensive because even Medicare is not all public funded....only 80%. Other nations don’t have a Republican Party of the stupid.

You don't seem to understand the most basic thing. Socialism (monopoly& bureaucracy) impoverishes countries. This is why 60 million slowly starved to death in USSR and Red China. Ever heard of East /West Germany, Cuba/Florida? Socialism in cars and health would make them very expensive until nobody could afford them. This is what Biden/ AOC/ Sanders/ Warren want for all of America. Now do you understand? Notice the way a conservative is made to feel like a kindergarten teacher?

oh yah.
one in eight people in the US live in poverty. In more socialistic Sweden, it’s 1 in 20.
its the same with other democratic Socialist countries ...less poverty.

First... there is absolutely nothing socialist about Sweden. Sweden is a free-market capitalist economy.

Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom

Country rankings based on economic freedom. World and global economy rankings from the Index of Economic Freedom are published by The Heritage Foundation.

www.heritage.org

Capitalism Saved Sweden

If you think Sweden is socialist, then you know something that just ain’t so.

www.aier.org

In 1975, Sweden’s state owned well over half of the productive resources in the country, and directed prices in much of the rest. It subsidized debt, in part paradoxically by having enormously high tax rates with generous deductions for borrowers. Its attempts at “Keynesian” policy interventions were clumsy, were mistimed, and created disastrous uncertainty in investment returns even in the portions of the economy that were still market-oriented.​

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Fortunately for its citizens, but unfortunately for those who think Sweden is still socialist, the Swedish government, more or less by universal consensus, turned sharply back toward capitalism beginning in about 1995. It deregulated domestic industry, privatized its education and pension systems, and opened the economy to international trade and competition. The reason it did this is precisely because capitalism, wherever it is practiced seriously in a system with rule of law and protection for property rights, always creates prosperity.​

Sweden is not even remotely socialist. Further, the claim that Sweden has low poverty, is no longer true.

How are Immigrant Children in Sweden Faring? Mean Income, Affluence and Poverty Since the 1980s - Child Indicators Research

This article presents new research on income-based child indicators for immigrant children from 17 different national backgrounds and children of parents born in Sweden observed during the 3-year periods 1983–85, 1995–97 and 2008–10. This research examines mean household income, representation...

link.springer.com

According to Statistics Sweden, such often used relative poverty rates stood at 9.9 % in 1995 but had climbed to as high as 17.3 % in 2010. Such a development means that, in international comparisons, Sweden in 2012 no longer stands out as having uniquely low relative poverty rates, see OECD​

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As immigration to Sweden drastically increased, especially with the recent surge in people fleeing Syria, the poverty rate has drastically increased.

It's a known and obvious fact, that when you have large levels of immigration, poverty follows. This is normal and natural, because people who don't know the culture, don't know the language, and don't have recognized skills in the new country, tend to end up at the lowest end of the economic ladder.

So both of your claims are patently false. As is usual of all left-wing ideological claims proven wrong by concrete evidence and facts.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

one in eight people in the US live in poverty. In more socialistic Sweden, it’s 1 in 20.
its the same with other democratic Socialist countries ...less poverty.

???? Sweden is a tiny, elite, unrepresentative European country. It does not represent Europe anymore than Manhattan represents the USA. More socialist Europe lives at about 60% of our per capita GDP and would live at 40% if not for our inventions (we hold 70% of recent medical patents for example). Please no more irrational cherry picking!

 

[jbander]

this country has to be turned around 100%.

And Democrats would do it 100% with socialism, open borders, defunded police, hispanic nationalism, free health care and education for entire world, empty prisons, 16 years old voters, a packed Supreme Court and Senate, plus higher business taxes to drive more jobs offshore.

The ultimate stupidity on these boards is the hate party's charge of everyone these pigs don't agree with being socialist or communist, problem is there is no socialism in this country, nor is there any communism in this country. the only way the brain dead can make it so is by defining what socialism and communism is. themselves but it already has a definition and if you look it up your will find out how stupid these these gum drops are in their magat hats

 

[jbander]

, you are choosing that I have to be led by your dictator.

you silly goose.Trump ran and won on his plan to build a wall. He could not even do that despite being elected to do it. He his hardly a dictator you silly goose.

The word is dictator wannabee , this puss bag doesn't know how to operate any other way. He's scum , the lowest form of humanity and his followers are small people , that we will dispose of.

 

[jbander]

some monstous corporations,

monstrous corporations?? Not if the are capitalist. Then they can only survive by offering you the best possible jobs and products in the world. Can you offer anyone a job and product that can survive international competition? If not you must be be very very thankful for those who do what you lack the ability to do.

Some punk telling me about capitalism , now that a hoot , I've made more then half my income in my lifetime of the markets and littel people like you hardly can tell me anything about it.

 

[Dagosa]

one in eight people in the US live in poverty. In more socialistic Sweden, it’s 1 in 20.
its the same with other democratic Socialist countries ...less poverty.

???? Sweden is a tiny, elite, unrepresentative European country. It does not represent Europe anymore than Manhattan represents the USA. More socialist Europe lives at about 60% of our per capita GDP and would live at 40% if not for our inventions (we hold 70% of recent medical patents for example). Please no more irrational cherry picking!

don’t be rediculous. Out of the top ten countries, the US ranks forth of countries with the highest poverty rate. Now come up with another excuse. Capitalism doesn’t work for everyone. The rich have seen to that for decades. I see you diss facts but have nothing of your own.

1. South Africa (26.6%)
2. Costa Rica (20.9%)
3. Israel (17.9%)
4. United States (17.8%)p
5. Korea (17.4%)
6. Turkey (17.2%
7. Lithuania (16.9%)
8. Latvia (16.8%)
9. Mexico (16.6%)
10. Chile (16.5%)

 

[jbander]

We should and we do have constitutional limits on our government , that is defined by the courts not you or some redneck bubba from the hate party, by the way not me either.

The Constitution is already defined. That was the point behind writing it down. The Court merely applies that definition.

The reason I asked about Constitutional limits on government is because many liberals get defensive and angry at any suggestion that government should be limited. They tend to think that democracy should always carry the day, despite the Constitution. Glad to hear you're not like that.

Obviously, you made that up. The US pays more per person for HC then anyother free nation in the world.

Yes I just said USA pays 4 times more than it should thanks to govt involvement. We need to shift to capitalism wherein there is competition to bring price down and quality up. Are you still confused???

This is the top of the stupid list for the day.

Yes yours was. Before Medicare and Medicaid, the elderly died horribly. So yes, if all you want to do is insure healthy people by private insurance, it’s cheaper to let 10s of thousands die. Obamacare and Medicare are both using private insurance which has to profitize. Plus, gov. Paid insurance is not allowed to negotiate. The gop has insured that their donors get their cuts. So it’s still expensive because even Medicare is not all public funded....only 80%. Other nations don’t have a Republican Party of the stupid.

You don't seem to understand the most basic thing. Socialism (monopoly& bureaucracy) impoverishes countries. This is why 60 million slowly starved to death in USSR and Red China. Ever heard of East /West Germany, Cuba/Florida? Socialism in cars and health would make them very expensive until nobody could afford them. This is what Biden/ AOC/ Sanders/ Warren want for all of America. Now do you understand? Notice the way a conservative is made to feel like a kindergarten teacher?

oh yah.
one in eight people in the US live in poverty. In more socialistic Sweden, it’s 1 in 20.
its the same with other democratic Socialist countries ...less poverty.

democratic socialist of Sweden or what Sanders is, is not Socialism. No differeent then the Nazi party not being socialist , even though it was called the National Socialist German Workers' Party(Nazi) There is no socialism or communism in this country.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

whose with me?

You mean "Who is with me?"

No one with a shred of intelligence believes in Medicare for All! It is too expensive!

 

[jbander]

one in eight people in the US live in poverty. In more socialistic Sweden, it’s 1 in 20.
its the same with other democratic Socialist countries ...less poverty.

???? Sweden is a tiny, elite, unrepresentative European country. It does not represent Europe anymore than Manhattan represents the USA. More socialist Europe lives at about 60% of our per capita GDP and would live at 40% if not for our inventions (we hold 70% of recent medical patents for example). Please no more irrational cherry picking!

You are a hoot cowboy?

 

[basquebromance]

whose with me?

You mean "Who is with me?"

No one with a shred of intelligence believes in Medicare for All! It is too expensive!

yeah, but the current system is even more expensive

i know the current system more than anyone in the history of the world

its a bad system. ITS NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

one in eight people in the US live in poverty. In more socialistic Sweden, it’s 1 in 20.
its the same with other democratic Socialist countries ...less poverty.

???? Sweden is a tiny, elite, unrepresentative European country. It does not represent Europe anymore than Manhattan represents the USA. More socialist Europe lives at about 60% of our per capita GDP and would live at 40% if not for our inventions (we hold 70% of recent medical patents for example). Please no more irrational cherry picking!

don’t be rediculous. Out of the top ten countries, the US ranks forth of countries with the highest poverty rate. Now come up with another excuse. Capitalism doesn’t work for everyone. The rich have seen to that for decades. I see you diss facts but have nothing of your own.

1. South Africa (26.6%)
2. Costa Rica (20.9%)
3. Israel (17.9%)
4. United States (17.8%)p
5. Korea (17.4%)
6. Turkey (17.2%
7. Lithuania (16.9%)
8. Latvia (16.8%)
9. Mexico (16.6%)
10. Chile (16.5%)

Poverty goes hand in hand with poor education.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

whose with me?

You mean "Who is with me?"

No one with a shred of intelligence believes in Medicare for All! It is too expensive!

yeah, but the current system is even more expensive

i know the current system more than anyone in the history of the world

its a bad system. ITS NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA!

No, it is not too expensive because I am not paying for my brother's medical care instead of my own.

 

[jbander]

Obviously, you made that up. The US pays more per person for HC then anyother free nation in the world.

Yes I just said USA pays 4 times more than it should thanks to govt involvement. We need to shift to capitalism wherein there is competition to bring price down and quality up. Are you still confused???

This is the top of the stupid list for the day.

Yes yours was. Before Medicare and Medicaid, the elderly died horribly. So yes, if all you want to do is insure healthy people by private insurance, it’s cheaper to let 10s of thousands die. Obamacare and Medicare are both using private insurance which has to profitize. Plus, gov. Paid insurance is not allowed to negotiate. The gop has insured that their donors get their cuts. So it’s still expensive because even Medicare is not all public funded....only 80%. Other nations don’t have a Republican Party of the stupid.

You don't seem to understand the most basic thing. Socialism (monopoly& bureaucracy) impoverishes countries. This is why 60 million slowly starved to death in USSR and Red China. Ever heard of East /West Germany, Cuba/Florida? Socialism in cars and health would make them very expensive until nobody could afford them. This is what Biden/ AOC/ Sanders/ Warren want for all of America. Now do you understand? Notice the way a conservative is made to feel like a kindergarten teacher?

Why does the person that has the least knowledge about a subject always seem to project themselves as being the end all as far as expertise is concerned. Your just a small puppy here.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

before it was passed, the CBO estimated that Obamacare would kill 800K jobs. how could obama do that knowing what would happen? so no, i opposed the ACA from the start!

How many jobs do you think the lefts latest idiocy would cost?

medicare for all would create at least 6 million jobs!

Tax collectors, undertakers, funeral directors, etc.

 

[jbander]

whose with me?

You mean "Who is with me?"

No one with a shred of intelligence believes in Medicare for All! It is too expensive!

yeah, but the current system is even more expensive

i know the current system more than anyone in the history of the world

its a bad system. ITS NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA!

This countries problems are 100% caused byt the right wing only reason for existing and that is to transfer all the new wealth of the country to the top , which can't be argued it has been so since 1981 trickle down lie.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Obamacare was an enormous on what there was before...which was nothing. but Medicare For All would be an enormous improvement on Obamacare, my friends!

Why would I want my taxes raised to care for illegals and deadbeats?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The problem with Medicare for all, is that Medicare does not pay the full cost of health care.

The irony of Medicare for All is that gullible progressives think it will remove insurance company profits from the equation. Medicare does the opposite. A lot of people mistakenly think of Medicare as government run insurance. It's not. Medicare farms out insurance to the same companies that you're dealing with now. The only difference between Medicare and private insurance is that the government pays for it, rather than your employer.

The insurance is not farmed out, just the administration. They have no incentive to cut costs.