We need to drop the colorization of 'Nationalist'.

[Flopper]

,,,,

Conservatives conserve tradition, the status quo. They seek to exclude what is different. They are resistant to change and regard it with suspicion. Any questioning they do is with the aim of intention of reaffirming the rightness of their beliefs.

Liberals, on the hand are always questioning, open to change, questioning tradition, even trampling it, pushing the envelope in who we include as the “us” that conservatives later conserve. The danger here is the tendancy of liberals to push too far too fast.

There is nothing wrong with being suspicious of change. However, when suspicion turns into denial of the logical progression of society and that denial turns into action to reverse that progress, then there is a lot wrong with that.

 

[Coyote]

There is nothing wrong with being suspicious of change. However, when suspicion turns into denial of the logical progression of society and that denial turns into action to reverse that progress, then there is a lot wrong with that.

I agree…and you need both our liberal and conservative impulses to balance each other out.

 

[The Duke]

Right. White nationalism.

It's all Americans feeling like that, dumbass. Everybody.

There's many other types of Americans than white, but we're all on the same page and it's one that you are not.

 

[The Duke]

While I do agree, that the key to resisting the uni-polar globalist technocracy is creating grassroots narratives. . .

This is not a word from the English language, that I believe a lot of energy should be spent on. It is sort of like the black American community trying to reclaim the "N," word. Sure, it decreases the power the word has, but it still has negative connotations when used the wrong way. Why even try to reclaim something, when other words will do just as fine?

I am not sure, you really understand, the magnitude of the battle ahead, for the future of humanity. It will require massive compromises, with many different people of all sorts of POV, to retain civil rights, civil liberties, and basic human dignities. We will all be looking for allies, where you never thought you would be seeking them. Any language that once had been paired in a way, that had loathsome connotations? Will have been just a waste of energy and a road block to future bridges we will need to make, IMO.

Episode 357 - Language is a Weapon​

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Man, he be talkin' 'bout dem Biden policies even!




That is some sick scratching. Top Notch.

 

[Flopper]

In America, the reason it is a "very short jump" from racist to nationalist is the concerted effort of the Democrats to smear everything with their racist paintbrush. They have made Nationalist, White Nationalist, White Supremacist, MAGA, ultra-MAGA all interchangeable slurs.

When you say white nationalist you are excluding all other races. The term white nationalist is an exclusionary term and it is meant to exclude all other races. While 60% of the population is white or some mixture of white and other races, 40% is not and it is growing rapidly. Hanging on to the idea that America is a white Christian nation is becoming absurd. In the 21st century we will see an amalgamation of all races. Hopefully then we see an end of racism.

 

[The Duke]

Meaningless attack post.

More like TDS pressure-relief/spazz out by Mac1958. Trump builds the pressure in his noggin n stuff constantly.

He releases it by posting TDS threads and making Orange Man Bad posts.

 

[MarathonMike]

When you say white nationalist you are excluding all other races. The term white nationalist is an exclusionary term and it is meant to exclude all other races. While 60% of the population is white or some mixture of white and other races, 40% is not and it is growing rapidly. Hanging on to the idea that America is a white Christian nation is becoming absurd. In the 21st century we will see an amalgamation of all races. Hopefully then we see an end of racism.

Right, which is why I was floating American Nationalist. That would be very clarifying, but too easy for Democrats to smear.

 

[MisterBeale]

Oh please. Look at the Newt Gingrich doctrine, which is still playing out. YOU weaponized language.

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Look at your own slurs: libtard, Demonrat, etc. Weaponized language much? Lately all the right does is project.

Agreed. Both sides do it. It really needs to stop.

But it won't.

A good example of why, is people like Frank Luntz. He helped sell that, "contract with America," that Newt Gingrich was peddling. They manipulate language, to appeal to folks emotions. And they are for sale to the highest bidder.

It is why there is no trust anymore, anywhere in America.

Former employees of famed GOP pollster Frank Luntz say his work is a "scam"

Legendary Republican pollster claims to be "without bias"; former co-workers say that's "frankly bulls**t"

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Frank Luntz | Politifact Lie Of The Year

In May of 2009, the Times’ Deborah Solomon interviewed pollster and messaging expert Frank Luntz for her weekly “Questions” column. She challenged him immediately over the phrase "Washington Takeover" in a 28-page memo titled “The Language of Health Care.” Luntz admitted that he didn't know if...

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"Penn & Teller: Bullshit!" Numbers (TV Episode 2006) ⭐ 7.0 | Comedy, Documentary

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"Penn & Teller: Bullshit!" Numbers (TV Episode 2006) Frank Luntz as Self - Pollster

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And now? The establishment turns around and starts to use him? wtf?