We Need Knife Control.

[Meister]

Whoever said knives can't kill? Nice strawman though. You could have just said, "I give up, you are right". Because that's basically how your lame response came across.

uh-huh

It's actually funny watching you twist when you are thoroughly defeated.

Not twisting at all dude. Fact is no matter what kind of bills that you would have passed would not have prevented the last two mass murders. You can't deny that, but you want to pass something....anything, just because it would make you feel good.
That is as stupid as it can get...yet there you are

 

[earlycuyler]

You miss (intentionally?) my point completely. And why flat out call someone names because you disagree, especially since you don't seem to get my point.

I realize knives are dangerous and that they can do great harm and kill people. Afterall, the Manson massacres were carried out with knives. The point I was making is that with one guy, with a semi-automatic rifle, in just a few seconds, 26 people died.

As compared to with one man, who has apparently carefully planned his attack, and in far longer than a few seconds, 14 people were injured, as opposed to 14 or more would have died had he been armed with a gun.

~My point was very obvious, so it seems silly to have to lay it out for you so specifically. But, maybe you really did miss it.

So the next time say they use a bomb ? Like I said, until broken people are addressed, thees killings will continue every few years, and you sheep will scream and yell about banning something. I missed nothing. You are indeed a moron.

So, you agree that knifes are not as dangerous as guns, and you believe if we need something to be as dangerous as guns, we need bombs?

You are indeed stupid. You must live a very sheltered life. Ill wait till you watch your cable news channel so you can get your talking points and bring something.

 

[candycorn]

the difference between the politics and rubber room boards is almost non existent at times

 

[RDD_1210]

Ever been stabbed ? Here, maybe you should tell this fellow-

Or this fellow-

I myself took a stabbing to my arm and a slashing to my face. You are a moron, and dont have a clue what you are talking about.

Yet, you are alive and able to tell us about it. Would it be better if you were shot in the face and killed?

The fact that you think the two are equal is simply amazing.

I am alive, And I do talk about it. It does not change the fact that a yellow piece of paper did not one thing to prevent it. Not one, and in thees two cases everything is the same. A determined attacker meant to harm and kill as many people as he could. The only thing different is he did not have a guy. Again, the issue is not what he used, the issue is why did he do it ? why are they all doing it ? Banning this, that or the other thing wont help. We need to figure out how to deal with broken people. Until we do, you will continue to see thees incidence.

But the issue IS what is used in these attacks. There will always be mental illness. While we do need to treat the people, you can't live under the assumption that mental illness can be eradicated. What we can do, which has been done in countless other countries, is prevent the mentally ill from being able to so easily obtain weapons that are highly efficient at killing. People will continue to do bad things, but the damage that they do can be controlled by limiting what types of devices and weapons they have at their disposal.

Denying this is exposing your ignorance and selfishness.

 

[RDD_1210]

uh-huh

It's actually funny watching you twist when you are thoroughly defeated.

Not twisting at all dude. Fact is no matter what kind of bills that you would have passed would not have prevented the last two mass murders. You can't deny that, but you want to pass something....anything, just because it would make you feel good.
That is as stupid as it can get...yet there you are

LOL, you can't even read. Can you? I already said the bills we have or proposed are not strict enough.

You're beyond pathetic at this point. But I expect that at this point from any of you over the hill, washed up has-beens who are out of touch with the country and the world.

When your generation finally dies off I have hopes that our country can finally join the 21st century.

 

[Antares]

Run along and change your diaper kid, you smell.

It's actually funny watching you twist when you are thoroughly defeated.

Not twisting at all dude. Fact is no matter what kind of bills that you would have passed would not have prevented the last two mass murders. You can't deny that, but you want to pass something....anything, just because it would make you feel good.
That is as stupid as it can get...yet there you are

LOL, you can't even read. Can you? I already said the bills we have or proposed are not strict enough.

You're beyond pathetic at this point. But I expect that at this point from any of you over the hill, washed up has-beens who are out of touch with the country and the world.

When your generation finally dies off I have hopes that our country can finally join the 21st century.

 

[Meister]

It's actually funny watching you twist when you are thoroughly defeated.

Not twisting at all dude. Fact is no matter what kind of bills that you would have passed would not have prevented the last two mass murders. You can't deny that, but you want to pass something....anything, just because it would make you feel good.
That is as stupid as it can get...yet there you are

LOL, you can't even read. Can you? I already said the bills we have or proposed are not strict enough.

You're beyond pathetic at this point. But I expect that at this point from any of you over the hill, washed up has-beens who are out of touch with the country and the world.

When your generation finally dies off I have hopes that our country can finally join the 21st century.

Sounds more like you want to change our country to socialism or communism and in order to do that you have to get rid of the guns completely. Why didn't you just say that in the beginning?
It isn't about the killing of children, it's about getting rid of the second amendment.

You won't be seeing anything like that in your lifetime sonny. So you need to deal with the "what is"...or move. Personally, I would like you just to move where you could feel warm and fuzzy in that utopia world of yours.

 

[RDD_1210]

Run along and change your diaper kid, you smell.

Not twisting at all dude. Fact is no matter what kind of bills that you would have passed would not have prevented the last two mass murders. You can't deny that, but you want to pass something....anything, just because it would make you feel good.
That is as stupid as it can get...yet there you are

LOL, you can't even read. Can you? I already said the bills we have or proposed are not strict enough.

You're beyond pathetic at this point. But I expect that at this point from any of you over the hill, washed up has-beens who are out of touch with the country and the world.

When your generation finally dies off I have hopes that our country can finally join the 21st century.

Ummmm, good one?

 

[Meister]

Yet, you are alive and able to tell us about it. Would it be better if you were shot in the face and killed?

The fact that you think the two are equal is simply amazing.

I am alive, And I do talk about it. It does not change the fact that a yellow piece of paper did not one thing to prevent it. Not one, and in thees two cases everything is the same. A determined attacker meant to harm and kill as many people as he could. The only thing different is he did not have a guy. Again, the issue is not what he used, the issue is why did he do it ? why are they all doing it ? Banning this, that or the other thing wont help. We need to figure out how to deal with broken people. Until we do, you will continue to see thees incidence.

But the issue IS what is used in these attacks. There will always be mental illness. While we do need to treat the people, you can't live under the assumption that mental illness can be eradicated. What we can do, which has been done in countless other countries, is prevent the mentally ill from being able to so easily obtain weapons that are highly efficient at killing. People will continue to do bad things, but the damage that they do can be controlled by limiting what types of devices and weapons they have at their disposal. Denying this is exposing your ignorance and selfishness.

Speaking of ignorance
What is to stop them from just stealing a weapon? How many times have I brought that up and you just ignore that little bit of info?
It seems your shoe size has a larger number than your IQ.

 

[RDD_1210]

Not twisting at all dude. Fact is no matter what kind of bills that you would have passed would not have prevented the last two mass murders. You can't deny that, but you want to pass something....anything, just because it would make you feel good.
That is as stupid as it can get...yet there you are

LOL, you can't even read. Can you? I already said the bills we have or proposed are not strict enough.

You're beyond pathetic at this point. But I expect that at this point from any of you over the hill, washed up has-beens who are out of touch with the country and the world.

When your generation finally dies off I have hopes that our country can finally join the 21st century.

Sounds more like you want to change our country to socialism or communism and in order to do that you have to get rid of the guns completely. Why didn't you just say that in the beginning?
It isn't about the killing of children, it's about getting rid of the second amendment.

You won't be seeing anything like that in your lifetime sonny. So you need to deal with the "what is"...or move. Personally, I would like you just to move where you could feel warm and fuzzy in that utopia world of yours.

LOL, there it is. Yes, every other country in the world who has figured out gun control must be socialist, or communist. ****, you literally announce your stupidity with each post.

It's not even fair at this point having this argument with you when you are so clearly in over your head and have literally no clue what you're talking about.

 

[earlycuyler]

Yet, you are alive and able to tell us about it. Would it be better if you were shot in the face and killed?

The fact that you think the two are equal is simply amazing.

I am alive, And I do talk about it. It does not change the fact that a yellow piece of paper did not one thing to prevent it. Not one, and in thees two cases everything is the same. A determined attacker meant to harm and kill as many people as he could. The only thing different is he did not have a guy. Again, the issue is not what he used, the issue is why did he do it ? why are they all doing it ? Banning this, that or the other thing wont help. We need to figure out how to deal with broken people. Until we do, you will continue to see thees incidence.

But the issue IS what is used in these attacks. There will always be mental illness. While we do need to treat the people, you can't live under the assumption that mental illness can be eradicated. What we can do, which has been done in countless other countries, is prevent the mentally ill from being able to so easily obtain weapons that are highly efficient at killing. People will continue to do bad things, but the damage that they do can be controlled by limiting what types of devices and weapons they have at their disposal.

Denying this is exposing your ignorance and selfishness.

Fail. I live under no illusions. Mental illness will never be eradicated. I also know that if the impossible was accomplished, and ALLLLL guns from the single shot handy rifle to the AK-47were scooped up and melted down that

1. gangsters and thugs would get them from Mexico,
2. that loons like Lanza would just spend time on the inter webs learning new and interesting ways to kill mass amounts of people much like this fellow here-

Cologne school massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On June 11, 1964, shortly after 9 o'clock, Seifert approached the schoolyard of the Catholic elementary school located at Volkhovener Weg 209-211, armed with a self-made flamethrower, lance and mace. The school consisted of one main building and four wooden barracks, each housing two classes with a total of eight teachers and 380 students.

But according to you, this type of thing is acceptable because he did not use a gun, but instead turned a piss pump into a flame thrower, and packed a spear as back up and only eight kids burnt to death. Mass shootings are rare, and in all cases, were inevitable. Had guns been 100% banned, then the perps would have found another way. You, like the other side of this argument are dazzled by all the purty lights, so much so that you miss the point which is, how do you stop crazy people from killing other people be it with a knife, gun, car, sarin gas, flame throwers, lawn mowers or what ever.

 

[Meister]

LOL, you can't even read. Can you? I already said the bills we have or proposed are not strict enough.

You're beyond pathetic at this point. But I expect that at this point from any of you over the hill, washed up has-beens who are out of touch with the country and the world.

When your generation finally dies off I have hopes that our country can finally join the 21st century.

Sounds more like you want to change our country to socialism or communism and in order to do that you have to get rid of the guns completely. Why didn't you just say that in the beginning?
It isn't about the killing of children, it's about getting rid of the second amendment.

You won't be seeing anything like that in your lifetime sonny. So you need to deal with the "what is"...or move. Personally, I would like you just to move where you could feel warm and fuzzy in that utopia world of yours.

LOL, there it is. Yes, every other country in the world who has figured out gun control must be socialist, or communist. ****, you literally announce your stupidity with each post.

It's not even fair at this point having this argument with you when you are so clearly in over your head and have literally no clue what you're talking about.

You really are this stupid aren't you? Look at the governments in this world that have outlawed guns, then get back to me.

 

[RDD_1210]

I am alive, And I do talk about it. It does not change the fact that a yellow piece of paper did not one thing to prevent it. Not one, and in thees two cases everything is the same. A determined attacker meant to harm and kill as many people as he could. The only thing different is he did not have a guy. Again, the issue is not what he used, the issue is why did he do it ? why are they all doing it ? Banning this, that or the other thing wont help. We need to figure out how to deal with broken people. Until we do, you will continue to see thees incidence.

But the issue IS what is used in these attacks. There will always be mental illness. While we do need to treat the people, you can't live under the assumption that mental illness can be eradicated. What we can do, which has been done in countless other countries, is prevent the mentally ill from being able to so easily obtain weapons that are highly efficient at killing. People will continue to do bad things, but the damage that they do can be controlled by limiting what types of devices and weapons they have at their disposal. Denying this is exposing your ignorance and selfishness.

Speaking of ignorance
What is to stop them from just stealing a weapon? How many times have I brought that up and you just ignore that little bit of info?
It seems you shoe size has a larger number than your IQ.

Are there no criminals/mentally ill in Japan?
Are there no criminals/mentally ill in Canada?
Are there no criminals/mentally ill in Australia?

Of course there are, but somehow they can't get their hands on guns with the ease that our mentally ill can get them here. Why is that?

I'll wait for your insightful response of ...."I don't care what other communist countries are doing, I live in 'Murica!"

 

[M14 Shooter]

Speaking of ignorance
What is to stop them from just stealing a weapon?

Obviously, their goal is to prevent people from stealing guns by making sure there are none to steal...
...from the citizenry, anyway -- the state, which should have a monopoly on force, can have as many guns as it wants.

 

[earlycuyler]

But the issue IS what is used in these attacks. There will always be mental illness. While we do need to treat the people, you can't live under the assumption that mental illness can be eradicated. What we can do, which has been done in countless other countries, is prevent the mentally ill from being able to so easily obtain weapons that are highly efficient at killing. People will continue to do bad things, but the damage that they do can be controlled by limiting what types of devices and weapons they have at their disposal. Denying this is exposing your ignorance and selfishness.

Speaking of ignorance
What is to stop them from just stealing a weapon? How many times have I brought that up and you just ignore that little bit of info?
It seems you shoe size has a larger number than your IQ.

Are there no criminals/mentally ill in Japan?
Are there no criminals/mentally ill in Canada?
Are there no criminals/mentally ill in Australia?

Of course there are, but somehow they can't get their hands on guns with the ease that our mentally ill can get them here. Why is that?

I'll wait for your insightful response of ...."I don't care what other communist countries are doing, I live in 'Murica!"

Got it. You are ok with mass killings as long as its not done with guns. You are indeed a silly one.

 

[RDD_1210]

I am alive, And I do talk about it. It does not change the fact that a yellow piece of paper did not one thing to prevent it. Not one, and in thees two cases everything is the same. A determined attacker meant to harm and kill as many people as he could. The only thing different is he did not have a guy. Again, the issue is not what he used, the issue is why did he do it ? why are they all doing it ? Banning this, that or the other thing wont help. We need to figure out how to deal with broken people. Until we do, you will continue to see thees incidence.

But the issue IS what is used in these attacks. There will always be mental illness. While we do need to treat the people, you can't live under the assumption that mental illness can be eradicated. What we can do, which has been done in countless other countries, is prevent the mentally ill from being able to so easily obtain weapons that are highly efficient at killing. People will continue to do bad things, but the damage that they do can be controlled by limiting what types of devices and weapons they have at their disposal.

Denying this is exposing your ignorance and selfishness.

Fail. I live under no illusions. Mental illness will never be eradicated. I also know that if the impossible was accomplished, and ALLLLL guns from the single shot handy rifle to the AK-47were scooped up and melted down that

1. gangsters and thugs would get them from Mexico,
2. that loons like Lanza would just spend time on the inter webs learning new and interesting ways to kill mass amounts of people much like this fellow here-

Cologne school massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On June 11, 1964, shortly after 9 o'clock, Seifert approached the schoolyard of the Catholic elementary school located at Volkhovener Weg 209-211, armed with a self-made flamethrower, lance and mace. The school consisted of one main building and four wooden barracks, each housing two classes with a total of eight teachers and 380 students.

But according to you, this type of thing is acceptable because he did not use a gun, but instead turned a piss pump into a flame thrower, and packed a spear as back up and only eight kids burnt to death. Mass shootings are rare, and in all cases, were inevitable. Had guns been 100% banned, then the perps would have found another way. You, like the other side of this argument are dazzled by all the purty lights, so much so that you miss the point which is, how do you stop crazy people from killing other people be it with a knife, gun, car, sarin gas, flame throwers, lawn mowers or what ever.

You found an example from 50 years ago and somehow think this proves YOUR point? HAhahahahah. It only reinforces what I have been saying all along. There will always be crazy people and criminals everywhere. But the acts that they commit can be much deadlier in a country that allows easy access to firearms as we do. We have mass killings seemingly every other week in this country, like no other 1st world country has.

The fact that your "go to argument" was a massacre from 50 years ago only reinforces my point. Thanks rube.

 

[RDD_1210]

Speaking of ignorance
What is to stop them from just stealing a weapon? How many times have I brought that up and you just ignore that little bit of info?
It seems you shoe size has a larger number than your IQ.

Are there no criminals/mentally ill in Japan?
Are there no criminals/mentally ill in Canada?
Are there no criminals/mentally ill in Australia?

Of course there are, but somehow they can't get their hands on guns with the ease that our mentally ill can get them here. Why is that?

I'll wait for your insightful response of ...."I don't care what other communist countries are doing, I live in 'Murica!"

Got it. You are ok with mass killings as long as its not done with guns. You are indeed a silly one.

I'll take it that the fact that you didn't address what I actually posted as you have nothing left in your bag of ridiculous arguments. Got it.

 

[Meister]

But the issue IS what is used in these attacks. There will always be mental illness. While we do need to treat the people, you can't live under the assumption that mental illness can be eradicated. What we can do, which has been done in countless other countries, is prevent the mentally ill from being able to so easily obtain weapons that are highly efficient at killing. People will continue to do bad things, but the damage that they do can be controlled by limiting what types of devices and weapons they have at their disposal.

Denying this is exposing your ignorance and selfishness.

Fail. I live under no illusions. Mental illness will never be eradicated. I also know that if the impossible was accomplished, and ALLLLL guns from the single shot handy rifle to the AK-47were scooped up and melted down that

1. gangsters and thugs would get them from Mexico,
2. that loons like Lanza would just spend time on the inter webs learning new and interesting ways to kill mass amounts of people much like this fellow here-

Cologne school massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On June 11, 1964, shortly after 9 o'clock, Seifert approached the schoolyard of the Catholic elementary school located at Volkhovener Weg 209-211, armed with a self-made flamethrower, lance and mace. The school consisted of one main building and four wooden barracks, each housing two classes with a total of eight teachers and 380 students.

But according to you, this type of thing is acceptable because he did not use a gun, but instead turned a piss pump into a flame thrower, and packed a spear as back up and only eight kids burnt to death. Mass shootings are rare, and in all cases, were inevitable. Had guns been 100% banned, then the perps would have found another way. You, like the other side of this argument are dazzled by all the purty lights, so much so that you miss the point which is, how do you stop crazy people from killing other people be it with a knife, gun, car, sarin gas, flame throwers, lawn mowers or what ever.

You found an example from 50 years ago and somehow think this proves YOUR point? HAhahahahah. It only reinforces what I have been saying all along. There will always be crazy people and criminals everywhere. But the acts that they commit can be much deadlier in a country that allows easy access to firearms as we do. We have mass killings seemingly every other week in this country, like no other 1st world country has.

The fact that your "go to argument" was a massacre from 50 years ago only reinforces my point. Thanks rube.

What gun laws do you want? Be specific and I'm sure it would be in the context with the second amendment.
You still haven't addressed the fact that the last two mass murder stole their weapons and no matter what laws were in place for the mentally ill it wouldn't have stopped what they did.

 

[candycorn]

Fail. I live under no illusions. Mental illness will never be eradicated. I also know that if the impossible was accomplished, and ALLLLL guns from the single shot handy rifle to the AK-47were scooped up and melted down that

1. gangsters and thugs would get them from Mexico,
2. that loons like Lanza would just spend time on the inter webs learning new and interesting ways to kill mass amounts of people much like this fellow here-

Cologne school massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On June 11, 1964, shortly after 9 o'clock, Seifert approached the schoolyard of the Catholic elementary school located at Volkhovener Weg 209-211, armed with a self-made flamethrower, lance and mace. The school consisted of one main building and four wooden barracks, each housing two classes with a total of eight teachers and 380 students.

But according to you, this type of thing is acceptable because he did not use a gun, but instead turned a piss pump into a flame thrower, and packed a spear as back up and only eight kids burnt to death. Mass shootings are rare, and in all cases, were inevitable. Had guns been 100% banned, then the perps would have found another way. You, like the other side of this argument are dazzled by all the purty lights, so much so that you miss the point which is, how do you stop crazy people from killing other people be it with a knife, gun, car, sarin gas, flame throwers, lawn mowers or what ever.

You found an example from 50 years ago and somehow think this proves YOUR point? HAhahahahah. It only reinforces what I have been saying all along. There will always be crazy people and criminals everywhere. But the acts that they commit can be much deadlier in a country that allows easy access to firearms as we do. We have mass killings seemingly every other week in this country, like no other 1st world country has.

The fact that your "go to argument" was a massacre from 50 years ago only reinforces my point. Thanks rube.

What gun laws do you want? Be specific and I'm sure it would be in the context withthe second amendment.
You still haven't addressed the fact that the last two mass murder stole their weapons and no matter what laws were in place for the mentally ill it wouldn't have stopped what they did.

What you do is tax the sale and force the cost upward...eventually the supply dries up and there are fewer guns in circulation. Perfectly constitutional.

 

[earlycuyler]

Well, mostly because you are an ignorant moron is why you get no respect. For one thing, guns are legal in Japan. Yup, they use large bore air guns. Met a guy in Texas on a ranch using a .50 cal air rifle so this is also an example of how Americans would get around an all out ban. But the loone who gassed a subway there found it would be more effective to use home made sarin gas instead. 13 dead, and if you had a clue how horrible a way to die that is, you would agree that shooting would be kind.

Sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Im sure this Japanese fellow would agree with you.

As for Canada, They have had there share of mass killings, but since only one (1) made head lines, there must never be any crimes or mass killings, and if there are, then by your reasoning its ok because guns were not used. Thats what you and the other moron are saying.

Australia, well, for a long time guns were legal there. Search up the history of mass shootings there. Not near as common as here, and you will find that they have found new and creative ways of killing there. Check out the knife laws to. Great shit.