We Must Do Something About The Media

Stephanie

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It's important.

I already mentioned the media's Hillary Tributes, but there's even more of it.

And I've mentioned this before, but I'm truly alarmed about it: What we are witnessing is the full and seamless fusion of media power with government power.

The media used to hide it a bit, in their actions; they would temper their scorn of conservatism, throw them a bone now and again just to prove they were capable of such a thing.

No longer. The media no longer hides it in their actions. They are fully fused with the Obama Administration and DNC. The only way in which they do hide it is by simply lying when confronted about it: They'll issue a snide denial, then go about doing precisely what it is they were accused of doing.

This is dangerous and unhealthy. I keep banging this drum but honestly, some patriotic billionaires do have to band together to purchase or build a media outlet. The outlet would be founded upon a simple premise: that it is dangerous and ultimately fatal for democracy for media power to fuse with government power, that the adversarial press is vital.

Fox alone isn't enough. For one thing, any venture needs competition; Fox doesn't really have competition, not for the audience it's targeting.

For another thing, frankly, look: Fox is often pitched too low to do any good with any but the already-alarmed. (Which I consider to be possibly a function of a lack of competition.)

The media considers its adversarial function to consist of serving as adversaries to critics of Obama and the Democrats; thus Terry Moran shaming himself by rushing out to ask what right a Senator has to question the Secretary of State on matters of foreign policy.


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Just to add to this: What we call "liberal" politics in this country has always been a mix of actual liberalism (one strain of it, at least) and outright leftism. (This W.R. Meade piece notes that liberalism began absorbing parts of socialism/communism/leftism in order to compete with those groups, when they threatened liberalism politically from the left.)

Liberalism is highly concerned with process. Both the liberal version of classic liberalism and the conservative version of classic liberalism consider process (fairness, equal access, and other such concerns) to be almost as vital as outcomes.

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Fusion of private media with government media? Seamless? That will be news to Fox and Rush.

Have you had a lobotomy?
 
Fusion of private media with government media? Seamless? That will be news to Fox and Rush.

Have you had a lobotomy?

You know, many people see it (polls have shown it) yet you think your jokes will make it all go away..
 
Censorship? An "official" news source? Eliminate everyone but FOX?

Just what do you mean by doing "something" about the media? And, which media? (lemme guess...the ones you don't like, right?)

The OP should assume these questions aren’t rhetorical, and respond.

We’d all like to know what should be ‘done about’ the media.

Given the totalitarian nature of conservatism, and its disdain for diversity and dissent, it’s reasonable to infer some sort of ‘legitimate’ censorship.
 
Censorship? An "official" news source? Eliminate everyone but FOX?

Just what do you mean by doing "something" about the media? And, which media? (lemme guess...the ones you don't like, right?)

The OP should assume these questions aren’t rhetorical, and respond.

We’d all like to know what should be ‘done about’ the media.

Given the totalitarian nature of conservatism, and its disdain for diversity and dissent, it’s reasonable to infer some sort of ‘legitimate’ censorship.

Nope, just that people better wake the hell up and see what's going on
but I don't see that happening
 
Censorship? An "official" news source? Eliminate everyone but FOX?

Just what do you mean by doing "something" about the media? And, which media? (lemme guess...the ones you don't like, right?)

The OP should assume these questions aren’t rhetorical, and respond.

We’d all like to know what should be ‘done about’ the media.

Given the totalitarian nature of conservatism, and its disdain for diversity and dissent, it’s reasonable to infer some sort of ‘legitimate’ censorship.

Nope, just that people better wake the hell up and see what's going on
but I don't see that happening


Wake up and do what?
 
Censorship? An "official" news source? Eliminate everyone but FOX?

Just what do you mean by doing "something" about the media? And, which media? (lemme guess...the ones you don't like, right?)

The OP should assume these questions aren’t rhetorical, and respond.

We’d all like to know what should be ‘done about’ the media.

Given the totalitarian nature of conservatism, and its disdain for diversity and dissent, it’s reasonable to infer some sort of ‘legitimate’ censorship.

Nope, just that people better wake the hell up and see what's going on
but I don't see that happening

Then what’s the point of the thread?
 
Just a point in fact: "In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States." (see New World Communs. of Tampa, Inc. v. Akre, 866 So. 2d 1231(2003)) This ruling does not only speak to Fox, but, others who are similarly situated.

It is up to the individual to be a better consumer of the news and understand that the news is in it's very essence an outlet for entertainment where rating are controlling not news events unless those events will garner a greater share of the viewers/consumers. What does a person do is find original sources to get unabridged facts and make their own determination.
 
yet you think your jokes will make it all go away..
I think you aren't reading people very well. They aren't making jokes to make something go away, they are making jokes because they question the very existence of what you're ranting about.

I think 2nd poster nailed it, sounds like you are ready to embrace the media outlets that you agree with and declare all the rest as being some evil entity that must be stopped. You throw these ridiculous ideas out then have no interest in actually engaging in debate to back up your assertions or offer solutions. As others said, whats the point?

We need to do background checks on the media and limit the amount of information they can disseminate at any one time.
That sounds like a great way to prevent the media from being controlled by those in power! Limit what they can say and let the ones in power decide who gets to qualify as media.

It is up to the individual to be a better consumer of the news and understand that the news is in it's very essence an outlet for entertainment where rating are controlling not news events unless those events will garner a greater share of the viewers/consumers. What does a person do is find original sources to get unabridged facts and make their own determination.
Money post. Couldn't agree more.
 
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see how much the right hates a corporate media if they dont spout the right lines and report the right things
 
heres a clue you complete fool.

They are owned by people who have a right to run their business as they see fit.


Want things to be MORE fair and them to have to report the truth?


Lets reinstate the fairness doctrine
 
yet you think your jokes will make it all go away..
I think you aren't reading people very well. They aren't making jokes to make something go away, they are making jokes because they question the very existence of what you're ranting about.

I think 2nd poster nailed it, sounds like you are ready to embrace the media outlets that you agree with and declare all the rest as being some evil entity that must be stopped. You throw these ridiculous ideas out then have no interest in actually engaging in debate to back up your assertions or offer solutions. As others said, whats the point?

We need to do background checks on the media and limit the amount of information they can disseminate at any one time.
That sounds like a great way to prevent the media from being controlled by those in power! Limit what they can say and let the ones in power decide who gets to qualify as media.

why offer anything..the lamestream media has been in the pocket of the DNC since Clinton..they are just not hiding it anymore.............as for your lecture, save it
 
heres a clue you complete fool.

They are owned by people who have a right to run their business as they see fit.


Want things to be MORE fair and them to have to report the truth?


Lets reinstate the fairness doctrine

lol, this coming from the people who were whining when a business cut their hours due to ObamaCare
 

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