rightwinger
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Trump is ready to release Obama’s birth certificate
‘We have evidence’ to prosecute Obama
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j-mac
Nuthin' but the truth
Precedent is a ***** eh?
j-mac
Nuthin' but the truth
As usual you freaks latched onto something that you’re trying your hardest to make into a career ender for your nemesis, but once again it’ll fall flat.
Do you ever tire of being wrong?
Twisted Gypsy Child
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rube you are delusional
MagicMike
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And all you got out of it was inflation, The Gulf of America, and Jeffrey Epstein.312>226
President Trump won 2633 counties
old drunkie only won 427 counties
All Swing States
Massive Popular Vote Landslide
Republican Congress
Republican Senate
Massive Electoral College Landslide
President Trump made enormous gains in every demographic.
Those are called FACTS.
Face it.
Your low info cult is dwindling by the day.
You poor MAGAt cucks. Even when you win you're still losers.
Must suck to be you.
Twisted Gypsy Child
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do not forget the findings were affirmed in a 2020 report by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, led by then-Chairman Marco Rubio. The U.S. intelligence community in 2017 said Russia had interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections and sought to hurt Clinton, who was Trump's Democratic opponent, while trying to help Trump.
Modern Messiah
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Nope.
Military enlistment is up
The tarrifs are generating massive revenue
Gas prices down
Border is secure
Hostages coming home
Massive foreign investment coming into the USA
Jan 6 hostages released
Cut funding to USAID
Iran's nuclear program decimated
colbert is done
Deporting all of cackle's and tater's criminal illegal aliens
312>226
Promises Made
Promises Kept
The American People Won.
You lost
MagicMike
Platinum Member
Drink that cult kool-aid much?Nope.
Military enlistment is up
The tarrifs are generating massive revenue
Gas prices down
Border is secure
Hostages coming home
Massive foreign investment coming into the USA
Jan 6 hostages released
Cut funding to USAID
Iran's nuclear program decimated
colbert is done
Deporting all of cackle's and tater's criminal illegal aliens
312>226
Promises Made
Promises Kept
The American People Won.
You lost
Modern Messiah
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312>226Drink that cult kool-aid much?
President Trump won 2633 counties
cackles only won 427 counties
Massive Popular Vote Landslide
All demographics swung towards President Trump
Republican Senate
Republican Congress
Massive Electoral College Landslide
The American People have spoken
And you are left holding the bag for dementia joe and old drunkie.
You chug the Kool aid mindlessly
MagicMike
Platinum Member
Why won't Trump release the Epstein file?312>226
President Trump won 2633 counties
cackles only won 427 counties
Massive Popular Vote Landslide
All demographics swung towards President Trump
Republican Senate
Republican Congress
Massive Electoral College Landslide
The American People have spoken
And you are left holding the bag for dementia joe and old drunkie.
You chug the Kool aid mindlessly
MagicMike
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The same administration that has lied to you about the Epstein files is now lying to you about the Obama files.
How many times you gonna fall for this shit Simp?
Modern Messiah
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Like I tried to explain to you.
The burden of proof is on you.
You're like most leftists.
You expect others to blindly buy into your unhinged conspiracy theories.
I believe The DOJ is in the process of appealing to a federal judge to release everything or as much as they are legally aloud.
There are legal stipulations regarding grand jury testimony.
Why didn't cornpop release the epstein file.
I'm going to repeat myself again even though it appears you are unwilling to accept reality.
The American People voted for President Trump in a landslide.
The American People are moving on past your low info conspiracy theories.
After all The American People do have the final say.
MagicMike
Platinum Member
The proof is actually in the Epstein evidence file which Trump is refusing to release because his name is in the evidence as well.
The Epstein teen sex trafficking ring is actually a MAGAt conspiracy you fuckin' idiot.
Yeah but you're a MAGAt.
You'll pretty much believe ANYTHING.
Nobody is talking about the Grand Jury transcripts. Even the gullible MAGAt base isn't falling for that distraction. They (your cult) are calling for the release of the FULL file, complete with flight logs and client list.
MAGAts are not going to be appeased with a bunch of heavily redacted Grand Jury transcripts.
Not relevant.
Biden didn't make a promise to release the file a central theme of his reelection campaign the way Trump did.
Now those same people are rejecting Trump.
That is what Trump told you to do.
Those REAL Americans who don't take their orders from Trump are demanding the release of the full file.
We outnumber you.
And they are demanding Trump cease his coverup of pedophile elitists.
Modern Messiah
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Again, nobody is obligated to entertain all of your emotional claptrap.
Your conspiracy theories are born out of your unconditional hate for President Trump.
You know who is not in the White House?
cackles
That's right.
The American People voted for President Trump in an overwhelming majority.
Do you know what that means?
It means fewer and fewer people are entertaining your unhinged TDS conspiracy theories.
You probably still think the russia, russia, russia hoax is real
You probably thought the border was under control when cackles and cornpop told you the border was perfect
Did cackles or tater ever apologize for lying about ICE whipping Hatians?
I thought tater was "running circles around everyone"
Why is everyone in the auto pen administration now pleading the fifth?
TroglocratsRdumb
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DGS49
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Obama DIRECTED the national security apparatus to find that Putin colluded with the Trump campaign to win the election.
MATT TAIBBI: I understand the confusion about this. I don't think that the report as it was released did a particularly good job of explaining what exactly the significance of these documents was. But they were very significant.
If you remember before the election, there was a story in The New York Times, for instance, on October 31st, saying, "FBI sees no link between Russia and Trump and the election." This was sort of what officials were telling people in the media. There were a few fringe attempts to kind of work the Steele dossier material—this full-on Trump-Russia conspiracy narrative—into the media, but for the most part, they didn't get there.
After the election, it was the same thing until this moment on December 9th, 2016, when Barack Obama convened this meeting, ordered a new intelligence assessment, and then immediately that same night, there were leaks from the administration telling people that there had been interference by Russia specifically to help Donald Trump.
MEGYN KELLY: Let me stop you right there. Let me just stop you right there.
So they call this meeting with all the Obama top people, and the new revised PDB has been issued yet—no revised Intelligence Community Assessment has happened yet. The last thing that happened in the intel community was, "We're going to tell them that there really was no significant Russian interference, at least insofar as election apparatus goes." And the FBI said, "We're out, we're going to issue our own." And then Clapper said, "All right, let's just pause everything." Then everybody gets together.
That night, right after that, before any revised intel happened—before anything happened—they began leaking to the media: Washington Post, New York Times, CNN, saying something diametrically opposed. Saying, "Russia interfered."
And that, to you, you describe that as the smoking gun that shows there had been a decision to shift the entire messaging around this in a way they thought would undermine Trump. Because why, if that were not the case, wouldn't they have just waited until they had the new and newly ordered intel assessment and then figured out what was what?
MATT TAIBBI: Yeah. And that's really the striking set of documents. You can see on December 9th, there is an order from the Director of National Intelligence's office basically giving out directions on how to put together a new Intelligence Community Assessment, per the president's request. But as they're giving out the assignment, the homework is already published in The New York Times and The Washington Post. In other words, they hadn't even started work yet—group work on this assessment—and they were already telling everybody in the media what the conclusion was.
So the entire work period of this had to be a sham. Essentially, they pre-concluded what was going to be in the assessment and started leaking in advance. And there's no question—it appears that this was done at the direction of the President of the United States, then Barack Obama.
They convened—it was all of his top emissaries. It was John Kerry, Victoria Nuland, John Brennan, Ben Rhodes, Andy McCabe. You point at Richard Leggett from NSA—all these top emissaries for Obama. I mean, these are his top, top, top officials when it comes to national security. They get together, and they receive a group email the next day from Clapper's office—he was DNI again—headed: "POTUS tasking on Russia election meddling," asking them to produce an assessment per the president's request.
Quoting there, he says: "The intelligence community is prepared to produce an assessment, quote, per the president's request, that pulls together the information we have on the tools Moscow used and the actions it took to influence the 2016 election, an explanation of why Moscow directed these activities, and how Moscow's approach has changed over time, going back to 2008 and 2012 as reference points."
MEGYN KELLY: And in assessing this, just before Obama was about to receive a briefing that contained no reference to significant Russian interference, that briefing was called off. A high-level meeting of White House security officials was convened, after which Obama himself tasked them with a new assessment that would lean toward a more aggressive conclusion.
The critical job of divining Russia's motives would be given to the CIA and Brennan. And I think you're suggesting here there's a reason that, even though it was technically all under Clapper, who was the DNI, it was given to the CIA and Brennan, who all along had been very "Russia, Russia, Russia," and they knew full well he would go along to get along.
MATT TAIBBI: Yeah. And this coincides with other information that we already had.
Obviously, the CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, a few weeks ago released a note talking about how Brennan overrode the objections of his Deputy Director of Analysis and two of his handpicked Russia experts to include Steele dossier material in this assessment.
I also did a story last year with Michael Shellenberger about how they suppressed dissent in the assessment that said that Russia was actually hesitant about Trump. They considered him mercurial and unreliable, and saw that Hillary Clinton represented continuity and was manageable. They weren't so concerned about her being president.
All of this was suppressed, and Brennan was the person who was most aggressive in pushing the other line. So the fact that he was in charge of divining Russia's motives—and remember, motive is a key thing here. It's not just that Russia interfered, it's that Russia interfered specifically to help Donald Trump. Those are two things.
MATT TAIBBI: I understand the confusion about this. I don't think that the report as it was released did a particularly good job of explaining what exactly the significance of these documents was. But they were very significant.
If you remember before the election, there was a story in The New York Times, for instance, on October 31st, saying, "FBI sees no link between Russia and Trump and the election." This was sort of what officials were telling people in the media. There were a few fringe attempts to kind of work the Steele dossier material—this full-on Trump-Russia conspiracy narrative—into the media, but for the most part, they didn't get there.
After the election, it was the same thing until this moment on December 9th, 2016, when Barack Obama convened this meeting, ordered a new intelligence assessment, and then immediately that same night, there were leaks from the administration telling people that there had been interference by Russia specifically to help Donald Trump.
MEGYN KELLY: Let me stop you right there. Let me just stop you right there.
So they call this meeting with all the Obama top people, and the new revised PDB has been issued yet—no revised Intelligence Community Assessment has happened yet. The last thing that happened in the intel community was, "We're going to tell them that there really was no significant Russian interference, at least insofar as election apparatus goes." And the FBI said, "We're out, we're going to issue our own." And then Clapper said, "All right, let's just pause everything." Then everybody gets together.
That night, right after that, before any revised intel happened—before anything happened—they began leaking to the media: Washington Post, New York Times, CNN, saying something diametrically opposed. Saying, "Russia interfered."
And that, to you, you describe that as the smoking gun that shows there had been a decision to shift the entire messaging around this in a way they thought would undermine Trump. Because why, if that were not the case, wouldn't they have just waited until they had the new and newly ordered intel assessment and then figured out what was what?
MATT TAIBBI: Yeah. And that's really the striking set of documents. You can see on December 9th, there is an order from the Director of National Intelligence's office basically giving out directions on how to put together a new Intelligence Community Assessment, per the president's request. But as they're giving out the assignment, the homework is already published in The New York Times and The Washington Post. In other words, they hadn't even started work yet—group work on this assessment—and they were already telling everybody in the media what the conclusion was.
So the entire work period of this had to be a sham. Essentially, they pre-concluded what was going to be in the assessment and started leaking in advance. And there's no question—it appears that this was done at the direction of the President of the United States, then Barack Obama.
They convened—it was all of his top emissaries. It was John Kerry, Victoria Nuland, John Brennan, Ben Rhodes, Andy McCabe. You point at Richard Leggett from NSA—all these top emissaries for Obama. I mean, these are his top, top, top officials when it comes to national security. They get together, and they receive a group email the next day from Clapper's office—he was DNI again—headed: "POTUS tasking on Russia election meddling," asking them to produce an assessment per the president's request.
Quoting there, he says: "The intelligence community is prepared to produce an assessment, quote, per the president's request, that pulls together the information we have on the tools Moscow used and the actions it took to influence the 2016 election, an explanation of why Moscow directed these activities, and how Moscow's approach has changed over time, going back to 2008 and 2012 as reference points."
MEGYN KELLY: And in assessing this, just before Obama was about to receive a briefing that contained no reference to significant Russian interference, that briefing was called off. A high-level meeting of White House security officials was convened, after which Obama himself tasked them with a new assessment that would lean toward a more aggressive conclusion.
The critical job of divining Russia's motives would be given to the CIA and Brennan. And I think you're suggesting here there's a reason that, even though it was technically all under Clapper, who was the DNI, it was given to the CIA and Brennan, who all along had been very "Russia, Russia, Russia," and they knew full well he would go along to get along.
MATT TAIBBI: Yeah. And this coincides with other information that we already had.
Obviously, the CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, a few weeks ago released a note talking about how Brennan overrode the objections of his Deputy Director of Analysis and two of his handpicked Russia experts to include Steele dossier material in this assessment.
I also did a story last year with Michael Shellenberger about how they suppressed dissent in the assessment that said that Russia was actually hesitant about Trump. They considered him mercurial and unreliable, and saw that Hillary Clinton represented continuity and was manageable. They weren't so concerned about her being president.
All of this was suppressed, and Brennan was the person who was most aggressive in pushing the other line. So the fact that he was in charge of divining Russia's motives—and remember, motive is a key thing here. It's not just that Russia interfered, it's that Russia interfered specifically to help Donald Trump. Those are two things.
MagicMike
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You’re just in a panic, little lady, that the sleaze of the democrat party has been exposed.
Crepitus
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I'm laughing at you, can't you tell?
How many people has he said would be arrested?
Have any been?
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