We can compete with china in manufacturing

[JoeB131]

In the case of defense we probably dont spend enough

We spend more than the next 10 countries combined, and 8 of those are allies.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Funny how we were at the top of our game when the workforce was 33% unionized, but today we are just managing the decline.

That's when unions employed people who wanted to work compared to the grift focus of today's unions.

 

[JoeB131]

That's when unions employed people who wanted to work compared to the grift focus of today's unions.

You mean as opposed to non-union workers?

 

[Mac-7]

WTF? Are you kidding me?

We have too many bases home and abroad. The foreign bases are a combination of tripwires and CIA operations hubs

We fund a secret space program that certainly has technologies that could drop energy costs to near zero, but they’re kept secret.

Its a dangerous world out there

Better to spend too much for defense than not enough

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Its a dangerous world out there

Better to spend too much for defense than not enough

Sho'nuff.

We built a new aircraft carrier every month during WWII and today it takes roughly 35 years plus or minus to build one and 50 years to repair one. But spending more money will fix that

 

[Mac-7]

We spend more than the next 10 countries combined, and 8 of those are allies.

When it comes to weapons for our military I dont want parity with the enemy

Because that costs American lives

Instead I want overwhelming superiority

 

[Mac-7]

Sho'nuff.

We built a new aircraft carrier every month during WWII and today it takes roughly 35 years plus or minus to build one and 50 years to repair one. But spending more money will fix that

Your example of aircraft carries is timely

We may not want to build any more in the future

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Your example of aircraft carries is timely

We may not want to build any more in the future

That's a great point.

Same thing with Abrams Main Battle targets, er, tanks

 

[Unkotare]

Okay, tough guy, if you say so.

...

You sure seem defensive...of the wrong country.

 

[JoeB131]

When it comes to weapons for our military I dont want parity with the enemy

Because that costs American lives

Instead I want overwhelming superiority

Then you should back restoring a draft.

Our military is so expensive because it's volunteer.

We pissed away 8 Trillion in Afghanistan and Iraq and had nothing to show for it.

 

[JoeB131]

You sure seem defensive...of the wrong country.

No, I just look at what they are doing right compared to what we are doing wrong.

Envy is never a good strategy.

 

[Mac-7]

We pissed away 8 Trillion in Afghanistan and Iraq and had nothing to show for it.

Not that much

But $2Tirillion is still a lot of wasted money

Plus all the afghans that have reached America since the war ended

 

[sartre play]

Yeah, here's the thing. I would bet on a bunch of motivated Chinese over a bunch of Bubba Rednecks from Jesusland any day of the week.

Now, with all that said, there are less manufacturing jobs everywhere. Most manufacturing jobs weren't outsourced, they were replaced by Automation and Process Improvement.

I worked for a company that eventually sent all the MFG jobs to Malaysia. Long before that happened, though, they perfected how to do the process with as few people as possible.

Oh, most of the people we had on the MFG floor? Mostly women from India and Mexico. A few Poles.

Now, the scary thing for white folks who never wanted to work on that factory floor is that AI is coming for their office jobs.

Thanks, most are not looking for actual on the ground facts. Propaganda rules.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

They don’t show up.

Bullshit, maybe stop requiring engineering students to waste time taking classes like English literature or underwater basket waving to become an engineer in ******* first place and people will want to invest a shorter volume of time to switch careers.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Yeah, here's the thing. I would bet on a bunch of motivated Chinese over a bunch of Bubba Rednecks from Jesusland any day of the week.

Now, with all that said, there are less manufacturing jobs everywhere. Most manufacturing jobs weren't outsourced, they were replaced by Automation and Process Improvement.

I worked for a company that eventually sent all the MFG jobs to Malaysia. Long before that happened, though, they perfected how to do the process with as few people as possible.

Oh, most of the people we had on the MFG floor? Mostly women from India and Mexico. A few Poles.

Now, the scary thing for white folks who never wanted to work on that factory floor is that AI is coming for their office jobs.

Never misses a chance to insult Whites, does he.

 

[Marener]

Bullshit, maybe stop requiring engineering students to waste time taking classes like English literature or underwater basket waving to become an engineer in ******* first place and people will want to invest a shorter volume of time to switch careers.

I never knew engineering colleges to require much in the way of humanities.

But if they did, it would only make them better.

I don’t know why you guys hate reading so much.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

I never knew engineering colleges to require much in the way of humanities.

But if they did, it would only make them better.

I don’t know why you guys hate reading so much.

No, it doesn’t. It wastes times, further drives the debt cycle for students, and makes college needlessly more expensive.

If those classes really have value(they don’t) they would not need to be mandatory in order to get a degree that has **** all to do with it.

“Muh hate reading “ get the ******* **** out of here, it’s others life, time, money (or the government money in the form of a loan) how dare you make life needlessly more time consuming, expensive, difficult, for other people because you feel it should be, who the **** are you to gate keep the road to a good paying career? You a boomer?!

 

[Marener]

No, it doesn’t. It wastes times, further drives the debt cycle for students, and makes college needlessly more expensive.

If those classes really have value(they don’t) they would not need to be mandatory in order to get a degree that has **** all to do with it.

“Muh hate reading “ get the ******* **** out of here, it’s others life, time, money (or the government money in the form of a loan) how dare you make life needlessly more time consuming, expensive, difficult, for other people because you feel it should be, who the **** are you to gate keep the road to a good paying career? You a boomer?!

I just like literate people, that’s all.

It’s better to have more general intelligence and well rounded education.

But it’s so HARD!

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

I just like literate people, that’s all.

It’s better to have more general intelligence and well rounded education.

But it’s so HARD!

Ok, they are in college, they are literate, why make they waste time and money taking classes because of your idiotic opinion?

I get it you wasted time and money and don’t wanna admit you got had, it’s ok Boomer.

 

[Concerned American]

The value of the dollar has not declined 98% since 1913 because of American workers.
It has declined because of the American government and the Fed.

It has declined because the US economy has transformed from a manufacturing base to a service base. It will decline further if we continue to be burger flippers for burger flippers.