"We are Preparing for Massive Civil War", Says DHS Informant

[bigrebnc1775]

context is everything ...

He was speaking of expanding opportunities for citizens to volunteer --- and that those programs are vital to our national security as well.


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No he wasn't -he merely expanded on finding other things for this SECURITY FORCE to do to justify its existence and multibillion dollar budget! How do you think the rest of his bullshit really explained what first came out of his mouth when he said we shouldn't rely just on our military to DEFEND the nation? And when he said this civilian SECURITY FORCE should be JUST AS POWERFUL as the military and JUST AS WELL FUNDED as the military? I don't give a shit what he said after that to soften the shock of even suggesting a massive, powerful civilian SECURITY FORCE. Saying we can't rely JUST on the military to DEFEND the nation means a hell of a lot more than sending some kids to college!

He used the words "security force" to describe them -a group he wanted AS POWERFUL as the the military. You don't find it odd he was comparing their strength to the military instead of something touchy-feely like the Red Cross or something? ROFL There is a reason he compared them to the military and a reason he wants that at least as strong as the military. The words "security force" means a group that will use FORCE to provide SECURITY. So the only question ANYONE should care about here given the fact they would be operating inside our own country -is security from whom?

I guess I should have said context and comprehension is everything.

Let me break it down for you. His point is that volunteers strengthen our country and thus make it more secure, whether they are military fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan or members of the Peace Corps helping people in other countries or those who join AmeriCorps to help people in need here at home. He spoke of how we all came together when attacked, how people wanted to do something to help, but instead were told to go on with their lives and 'go shopping'. The military has born the brunt of this obligation, over and over again. But for those who can't or don't want to join the military, there should be opportunities to volunteer that can be just as important to our security and strength. Those programs that work here at home strengthen us from within; those that help in other countries strengthen us abroad. Security and strength doesn't have to come from the barrel of a rifle or cannon, and --- as he said in the clip taken out of context --- we cannot continue to rely ONLY on our military.

we cannot continue to rely ONLY on our military

What does the military do? It's not the military's duty to police the country

 

[Emma]

No he wasn't -he merely expanded on finding other things for this SECURITY FORCE to do to justify its existence and multibillion dollar budget! How do you think the rest of his bullshit really explained what first came out of his mouth when he said we shouldn't rely just on our military to DEFEND the nation? And when he said this civilian SECURITY FORCE should be JUST AS POWERFUL as the military and JUST AS WELL FUNDED as the military? I don't give a shit what he said after that to soften the shock of even suggesting a massive, powerful civilian SECURITY FORCE. Saying we can't rely JUST on the military to DEFEND the nation means a hell of a lot more than sending some kids to college!

He used the words "security force" to describe them -a group he wanted AS POWERFUL as the the military. You don't find it odd he was comparing their strength to the military instead of something touchy-feely like the Red Cross or something? ROFL There is a reason he compared them to the military and a reason he wants that at least as strong as the military. The words "security force" means a group that will use FORCE to provide SECURITY. So the only question ANYONE should care about here given the fact they would be operating inside our own country -is security from whom?

I guess I should have said context and comprehension is everything.

Let me break it down for you. His point is that volunteers strengthen our country and thus make it more secure, whether they are military fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan or members of the Peace Corps helping people in other countries or those who join AmeriCorps to help people in need here at home. He spoke of how we all came together when attacked, how people wanted to do something to help, but instead were told to go on with their lives and 'go shopping'. The military has born the brunt of this obligation, over and over again. But for those who can't or don't want to join the military, there should be opportunities to volunteer that can be just as important to our security and strength. Those programs that work here at home strengthen us from within; those that help in other countries strengthen us abroad. Security and strength doesn't have to come from the barrel of a rifle or cannon, and --- as he said in the clip taken out of context --- we cannot continue to rely ONLY on our military.

we cannot continue to rely ONLY on our military

What does the military do? It's not the military's duty to police the country

Who said anything about policing?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I guess I should have said context and comprehension is everything.

Let me break it down for you. His point is that volunteers strengthen our country and thus make it more secure, whether they are military fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan or members of the Peace Corps helping people in other countries or those who join AmeriCorps to help people in need here at home. He spoke of how we all came together when attacked, how people wanted to do something to help, but instead were told to go on with their lives and 'go shopping'. The military has born the brunt of this obligation, over and over again. But for those who can't or don't want to join the military, there should be opportunities to volunteer that can be just as important to our security and strength. Those programs that work here at home strengthen us from within; those that help in other countries strengthen us abroad. Security and strength doesn't have to come from the barrel of a rifle or cannon, and --- as he said in the clip taken out of context --- we cannot continue to rely ONLY on our military.

we cannot continue to rely ONLY on our military

What does the military do? It's not the military's duty to police the country

Who said anything about policing?

It's not America's military duty to do anything with civilians that's up too the state Governors, to call out the state guard.

 

[rdean]

This time, I say, let Republicans secede. Then we can ship them a little bread and some rubbers like we do to other third world countries with an uneducated population.

So push comes to shove and little weasel rdean looks like he intends to side with those who want to impose a dictatorship and believe they have an inherent right to RULE and the masses have no right to oppose them? Interesting to know.

The only "dictatorship" would come from the right wing. How do we know? Look at the hideous social agenda they keep trying to push in state after state. Imagine, telling a women she needs to literally be "probed".

If Republicans can't force their terrible social agenda on the rest of the US, they don't feel "free".

 

[Emma]

What does the military do? It's not the military's duty to police the country

Who said anything about policing?

It's not America's military duty to do anything with civilians that's up too the state Governors, to call out the state guard.

Who said anything about policing????

 

[whitehall]

"The federal government is preparing for an uprising". Interesting words. Scare tactics are nothing new to politicians of all stripes. If global warming doesn't work let's try "civil war" and see if it resonates and we can use fear to subvert the Constitution.

 

[frazzledgear]

Another scared cracker thread. Hahahaha.

Why is it you associate being aware of the world around you as fear?

Crime is down, has been for 30 years. Manufacturing is up, the Dow is up over last year. You crackers are scared and clinging to every fear being peddled to you. It's fun to watch.

And its GOOD TIMES for everyone and we are all just too STOOOPID to know it, right? LOL Sure -that explains why on my block alone there are five -count them -FIVE empty houses. Homes that have been abandoned and in the process of being repossessed because the former occupants couldn't afford them any longer. Two took out loans on a home they knew they couldn't afford but the other three suffered a major financial setback by LOSING THEIR JOBS! My entire neighborhood is riddled with abandoned, repossessed homes now unlike anything I have EVER seen in my lifetime! Oh but the economic news is SOO good now that another half million people just gave up looking and dropped out of the work force! And even with 6+ MILLION people now who have just given up looking for a job -which should make it easier for those who haven't yet given up to find work now they are competing against fewer people -the unemployment rate even with fudging it this way -stuck.

There is a lower percentage of MEN in the workforce than at ANY time since 1948. There are fewer people participating in the labor force than when Obummer took office -although there are 10+ million more working age people than when he took office. The only economic class to have grown since he took office -is the ranks of the poor.

Now try to collect your thoughts and put aside the stupid emotion driven rage you have been encouraged to hold towards FELLOW AMERICANS! Seriously how can you support any political party that insists fellow Americans aren't just people who have different ideas about how to achieve similar goals -but are evil, heartless monsters who want to poison their own children (but anti-abortion -lol), devastate the planet, steal candy from little kids and to view them as less than fully human, certainly not view them as worthy - and repeatedly encouraged to view them as "things" whose ideas and opinions should never even be allowed to enter the debate? Do you really not understand that is done so people like you who are allergic to using common sense, critical thinking skills and any intelligence you may possess will shut them out and not even listen to their argument, not even give them a hearing?

Now why would any side convinced they held the winning argument if people were just allowed to hear it and weigh it up against an HONEST accounting of the other side's argument -would paint their opponents as "evil" if they truly believed they could win the debate fair and square without any need to encourage their own supporters to be immature, irrational emotion driven children? Do you REALLY not understand this is a deliberate tactic, one that has been written about by the far left you so admire OVER and OVER and OVER -and all because by their OWN admission admit if the debate is allowed to be one of IDEAS -they lose! So the left has repeatedly written about the need to avoid at all costs an honest debate of ideas -and instead encourage their own supporters to respond in an irrational emotion driven manner to the opposition and encouraged to NOT be thoughtful, NOT give a honest airing of opposing views and to NOT be smart, intelligent human beings capable of using their critical thinking skills enough to determine what is useless emotion drive lying ass bullshit hype -and a rational, factual, well reasoned debate about ideas. Because YOUR side repeatedly admits that is a debate they cannot win and will NEVER win! So what does that say about those who support the very side that admits their ideas are inferior and can't win against those of the other side??

Democrats claim to have the best interests of the poor and speak for them -and in fact the poor overwhelmingly vote Democrat and a solid part of their base. Not a big secret they are. It stands to reason Democrats would want to expand their base and entrench their power -so growing the ranks of the poor, having as many as possible on the bottom and shrinking the wealthier classes suddenly makes total sense. Because no one in their right mind can claim Obummer has been trying to grow any economic class BUT the poor.

Likewise Democrats constantly insist Republicans love the rich and represent their interests as they rage and rail against success, insisting it is something shameful. Even if that were true that Republicans represented the interests of the rich -and there is actually far less to back that one up -it would also stand to reason Republicans would want to expand their base, grow the ranks of the wealthy and HAVE AS FEW ON THE BOTTOM AS POSSIBLE.

So sure it makes total sense to vote for the Democrat.........lol If you think THIS is what "good" looks likes under a President -Obummer is your guy. I'm going with the guy with a proven track record of growing wealth.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Who said anything about policing?

It's not America's military duty to do anything with civilians that's up too the state Governors, to call out the state guard.

Who said anything about policing????

AGAIN
It's not America's military duty to do anything with civilians that's up too the state Governors, to call out the state guard

 

[Emma]

It's not America's military duty to do anything with civilians that's up too the state Governors, to call out the state guard.

Who said anything about policing????

AGAIN
It's not America's military duty to do anything with civilians that's up too the state Governors, to call out the state guard

AGAIN

Who said anything about policing???

 

[Emma]

I can do this all day. I have no life.

 

[Cowman]

The Republic is at stake. The Constitution is hanging by a thread.

No it's not, Mr. chicken little. Phantom fears are pathetic when there are actual things to be concerned about that republicans refuse to even acknowledge.

You are an evil man. You support a movement who openly wants to violently overthrow this Republic and our way of life and then you lie about it whenever you are called on it. It would be seriously pathetic if real people's lives werent at stake because of your actions. Their blood will be on your hands unless you change your ways and stop this evil.

Stop it with your stupid hyperbole. It's that kind of dangerous talk that is going to get people like you fighting others.

There is no mainstream movement who wants to violently overthrow the government in this country. Not right now there isn't.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Who said anything about policing????

AGAIN
It's not America's military duty to do anything with civilians that's up too the state Governors, to call out the state guard

AGAIN

Who said anything about policing???

What would you need a national civilian defense force equiped just as good as the military?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I can do this all day. I have no life.

It's Sunday so can I.

 

[MikeK]

In a riveting interview on TruNews Radio, Wednesday, private investigator Doug Hagmann said high-level, reliable sources told him the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is preparing for “massive civil war” in America.

If this is true the designation "massive civil war" is bureaucratic euphemism for what actually is preparation for suppressive action against civil unrest.

The emerging Third Reich did the same thing in the mid-1930s. It was called Innere Sicherheit and it gave rise to the Gestapo.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR-wYR42i4k]Government Secretly Prepares To Evacuate Chicago During upcoming NATO Summit! (April 26, 2012) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Cowman]

Uhh... so what? What's your point?

And oh my god, that video is full of stupid bible quotes attributed to the scenario.

Jesus Christ on a Cross, you're dumb.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Uhh... so what? What's your point?

And oh my god, that video is full of stupid bible quotes attributed to the scenario.

Jesus Christ on a Cross, you're dumb.

Dumb ass how much of the video had bible scripture in it?

 

[American Horse]

In a riveting interview on TruNews Radio, Wednesday, private investigator Doug Hagmann said high-level, reliable sources told him the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is preparing for “massive civil war” in America.

If this is true the designation "massive civil war" is bureaucratic euphemism for what actually is preparation for suppressive action against civil unrest.

The emerging Third Reich did the same thing in the mid-1930s. It was called Innere Sicherheit and it gave rise to the Gestapo.

Germany after WWI was a new "democracy" with faulty institutions, straddled with a huge debt to the victors after a humiliating defeat on the world stage and treated as if they were criminals. They had no military per se, just an internal police force. They were less than two decades from the rule of kings, and it was their first experience with a democratic form of government with strong disparate factions in a struggle for power.

Totally deifferent from 21st century America.

 

[dilloduck]

In a riveting interview on TruNews Radio, Wednesday, private investigator Doug Hagmann said high-level, reliable sources told him the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is preparing for “massive civil war” in America.

If this is true the designation "massive civil war" is bureaucratic euphemism for what actually is preparation for suppressive action against civil unrest.

The emerging Third Reich did the same thing in the mid-1930s. It was called Innere Sicherheit and it gave rise to the Gestapo.

Germany after WWI was a new "democracy" with faulty institutions, straddled with a huge debt to the victors after a humiliating defeat on the world stage and treated as if they were criminals. They had no military per se, just an internal police force. They were less than two decades from the rule of kings, and it was their first experience with a democratic form of government with strong disparate factions in a struggle for power.

Totally deifferent from 21st century America.

They weren't real crazy about being taken over by communists either.

 

[ThinkCritically]

In a riveting interview on TruNews Radio, Wednesday, private investigator Doug Hagmann said high-level, reliable sources told him the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is preparing for “massive civil war” in America.

If this is true the designation "massive civil war" is bureaucratic euphemism for what actually is preparation for suppressive action against civil unrest.

The emerging Third Reich did the same thing in the mid-1930s. It was called Innere Sicherheit and it gave rise to the Gestapo.

Well look at what has been happening to the US over the past 10 years.

1. Patriot Act. (Allows for indefinite detention without notification of arrest or need for charges or trial) Of course there are other terrible parts of the Patriot Act as well.
2. Occupy Wall Street movement (were people actually do get beaten for exercising their 1st amendment rights. )
3. And now we have an EO that sets the stage for Marshall Law.

I don't think that BO is plotting to kill us all, but it sure does set the stage for some potentially bad things in the future.

I mean seriously why aren't Dems upset too. Just think, in the future another crazy might get into office and use all this stuff in bad ways.