We all need to reflect on the polarization and violence that dominates our politics

[White 6]

Another scumbag lib blaming the victim. Despicable.

Choices are choices. The murderous asshole is to blame, not the victim. I am simply saying, he seemed like a smart guy, but did not manage this risk. You may no know it, but there are wealthy Only Fans sex symbols out there, that pay for security, to manage the risks associated with their notoriety. This ain't rocket science. First step is admitting there is risk and then managing it.

 

[Mac1958]

The solution is simple
Proportional Representation.
Completely changes the dynamics of voting, changes how politicians see politics, changes how voters see voting.
It makes a country better

The problem is that the people with the most energy & influence right now are ENJOYING the divisions. So, any fixes, as obvious as they may be, will be immediately shouted down.

 

[ElmerMudd]

No.

If people on both sides think like you nothing gets done. Too many politicians on both sides think like you.
Take a look at the many compromises our founding fathers implemented to successfully build our country.
If they were like you, we would have no country.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I feel that would be one positive step.

It'd be a huge step, and the first. Without it, there is no change.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The problem is that the people with the most energy & influence right now are ENJOYING the divisions. So, any fixes, as obvious as they may be, will be immediately shouted down.

Yep, you can see the people on here who love the fight, love attacking the other side without any kind of argument other than the one given to them.

 

[Rogue AI]

The left always calls for 'reflection' and moderation after their murderous actions. For all their ridiculous claims of 'extremism' on the right, reality continues to defy them. What a crock.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Sure, but we are not talking about the difference in a national speed limit of 55mph or 60mph.

One side has stated our founding is racist. One side want to destroy all our history. One side wants no constitution. One side is MARXIST SOCIALISTS

To compromise with people who are wrong results in both people being wrong.

Yes. We need to compromise, okay you can tax me at 70%, you can have half the teachers transexuals. My babies can be taught all about homosexuality and if I die my orphans an be raised by homosexuals.

Now what issues are you going to meet me in the middle?

Democrats dont compromise or neet in the middle, never once ever

Wrong, in the past, both parties compromised. Look into the success of the Reagan years. There was great freindships and respect between many. And their were many compromises that got things done.
We will not ave a country if we have a bunch of iealogues from both sides utting us in gridlock.

 

[Mac1958]

Yep, you can see the people on here who love the fight, love attacking the other side without any kind of argument other than the one given to them.

I remember reading something a three or four years ago that really gave me a chill: That it has been so long since America had collaborated to fix problems that we have literally lost the skill. Use it or lose it, like a muscle.

Now, collaboration and innovation are attacked.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I remember reading something a three or four years ago that really gave me a chill: That it has been so long since America had collaborated to fix problems that we have literally lost the skill. Use it or lose it, like a muscle.

Now, collaboration and innovation are attacked.

Yeah, politics and politicians are all about people making as much money as they can for themselves.

 

[Missourian]

The murderous asshole is to blame, not the victim.

This is all you need to say.

The rest is bullshit.

 

[wist43]

The solution is simple

Proportional Representation.

Completely changes the dynamics of voting, changes how politicians see politics, changes how voters see voting.

It makes a country better

That is no solution at all as representation is not the problem.

The problem is that the United States Constitution was transformed in the 1930's from a negative document that constrained the government to a positive document that opened the floodgates to ever greater expansions of government.

Predictably the ruling elite began to use the power of government to indoctrinate the masses and expand government power over them.

Of course the left cheered on this expansion of government every step of the way.

They immediately set about attacking and destroying the family. Divorce, abortion, sexual license, inflation, two working parents, debt, etc... all of this is deliberate and intended to weaken our society by weakening and destroying the family.

Rebuild the family, and the country would rebound very quickly.

The Establishment and the left that they control would never allow that though.

 

[Missourian]

If people on both sides think like you nothing gets done. Too many politicians on both sides think like you.
Take a look at the many compromises our founding fathers implemented to successfully build our country.
If they were like you, we would have no country.

We are getting things done.

You are failing in the arena of ideas so badly you have to assassinate the conservative debater!

So no. I have no interest in compromising with your insanity.

Find the plot, get back on the rails, fix your elevator so it reaches the top floor, discover enough sandwiches for a picnic, get both oars in the water... then we'll talk.

Until then, all you have to look forward to is the right tripling our efforts to defeat you.

 

[frigidweirdo]

That is no solution at all as representation is not the problem.

The problem is that the United States Constitution was transformed in the 1930's from a negative document that constrained the government to a positive document that opened the floodgates to ever greater expansions of government.

Predictably the ruling elite began to use the power of government to indoctrinate the masses and expand government power over them.

Of course the left cheered on this expansion of government every step of the way.

They immediately set about attacking and destroying the family. Divorce, abortion, sexual license, inflation, two working parents, debt, etc... all of this is deliberate and intended to weaken our society by weakening and destroying the family.

Rebuild the family, and the country would rebound very quickly.

The Establishment and the left that they control would never allow that though.

Yeah, it's a problem.

You have no oversight.

Let me explain. In 2015 in the UK UKIP got 12.6% of the vote. They got one seat. The UK also uses FPTP like the US does.

In Germany in 2017 the AfD got 12.6% of the vote and 90 seats.

Which political party do you think scares the elite the most? Which country do the people get more of a say?

 

[candycorn]

Have you read the main shooting thread? I think you have. What about all of your Dim friends cheering Kirk's murder. He deserved it, that is what they are saying.

So, are you going to hold your own accountable? Tag me when you do.

Any quotes of the "cheering"?

 

[candycorn]

An assassin opened fire on the Republican Congressional delegation while they were practicing for a charity baseball game, almost killing Rep Scalise.

Trump was almost assassinated twice.

Just last week the Democrat Vice Presidential Candidate GLEEFULLY wished the sitting president dead.

Now Charlie Kirk is dead. Assassinated.

YOU need to ******* reflect on the toxic shit that spews from Democrats.

Cause you are thisclose to reaping that which you have sown.

Was this before or after Gabby Giffords was shot in the head?

 

[Stryder50]

The should not. But, there are unhinged assholes, in every country, this one included that do attempt, that very thing, and for reasons none of the rest of us would ever approve of. To not know or admit, these assholes exist, is to stick ones head in the sand. Politicians know this and take steps. Insurance executives, unworried in the past, now know this, and take steps. Being high profile, may make you a lot of money, with no other job, but being high profile (unlike the insurance execs endangered by turning people down on claims, based on policy, being part of the job) carries risks. Part of risk management, is the basic realization, you have risk. If the risk is associated with how you make your money, managing that risk is a deductible business expense, and an expense that should be paid. For as we know, no matter how much you would like to keep the profits in the bank, you can't take it with you, should lack of risk management catch up with you, pretending it does not exist.

We are all at "risk" and need to provide our own security.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Polarization is coming exclusively from democrats because they accuse anything that is pro-American as polarizing.

 

[theHawk]

Americans, on both sides of the political spectrum, are incensed by the senseless assassination of Charlie Kirk. There needs to be a focus on the needs of Kirk’s wife and children, so sad. There are idiots on both sides of the political spectrum who react, inappropriately, to violence toward politicians of the opposite party. In the past several months, besides the Charlie Kirk assassination, there were two attempted assassinations of Donald Trump, an attempted assassination of two democratic Minnesota legislators, ending in 3 deaths. and an arson fire started in the home of the democratic governor of Pennsylvania as his family slept upstairs.

Too often, one side blames the other side for everything that bad happens. Nobody can have it all the way we want. For success everyone must give a little.

We all need to find a way to lower the temperature. We need to work on finding areas of commonality. There will always be differences. We need to find a way to deal with the differences in a more functional way.

It is up to us, not someone else.

Funny, it’s always “lower the temperature” after violence has been perpetrated on the right.

But y’all were fine calling us Nazis, racists, bigots, etc.


We will remain angry over these injustices.

 

[candycorn]

Sure, but we are not talking about the difference in a national speed limit of 55mph or 60mph.

One side has stated our founding is racist.

The 3/5 compromise proves that we were. Sorry.

One side want to destroy all our history.

Back in 2010, the State of Texas removed Jefferson from some history books because he was in favor of separation of church and state. You guys don't want to be reminded of history as your blob has often whined about it being reminded of something "bad".

One side wants no constitution.

That would be the right as well.

One side is MARXIST SOCIALISTS

I wouldn't call you a socialist but since in trump's first term, we bailed out the farmers twice...you probably are.

To compromise with people who are wrong results in both people being wrong.

Agree.

Yes. We need to compromise, okay you can tax me at 70%, you can have half the teachers transexuals. My babies can be taught all about homosexuality and if I die my orphans an be raised by homosexuals.

Sounds good to me. It also sounds like a fairy tale you've made up.

Now what issues are you going to meet me in the middle?

Dunno...what else is in your imagination?

 

[Missourian]

Was this before or after Gabby Giffords was shot in the head?

Didn't the guy who shot her also hate George Bush?

You know Gabby Giffords is Jewish and a strong defender of Israel?

How many Death Threats would the tolerant and inclusive Democrat Party of today be sending her?

Aren't you just so proud of your party?

The assassin's party.

The pro-illegal alien party.

The pro-crime party.

The pro-terrorist party.

No wonder your approval is below 20%.

I think after today, you'll think back fondly on a 20% approval.