Way back in the day of the cowboy’s gun control was tougher than it is today

[watchingfromafar]

Towns were quite different, cow punchers coming off a long drive and being flush with their pay, would descend upon a town and often times create havoc shooting up the town and generally celebrating.

In the real world, no such events took place.

.,..,You Are welcome to post something proving me wrong..,.tic.,,,tick.,,,good luck

The other side of the coin is that towns actually depended on these cowboys for the influx of cash they would bring spending it on prostitutes, gambling, hotels, barbers, and, of course dropping scads of dough in the local drinking establishments.

There have been some really good movies showing the make-believe life described in your post.

In the real world, American citizens have learned to distinguish between the two.

Fact or fiction, non-fiction,

It is little wonder why a Sheriff would confiscate their guns until they left town.

Nice of you to admit that there were gun laws in cities and towns way back then.

Reminding us that Wyatt Earp was a living Sheriff doing his duty to enforce those laws.
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[Leo123]

Towns were quite different, cow punchers coming off a long drive and being flush with their pay, would descend upon a town and often times create havoc shooting up the town and generally celebrating.

In the real world, no such events took place.

.,..,You Are welcome to post something proving me wrong..,.tic.,,,tick.,,,good luck

The other side of the coin is that towns actually depended on these cowboys for the influx of cash they would bring spending it on prostitutes, gambling, hotels, barbers, and, of course dropping scads of dough in the local drinking establishments.

There have been some really good movies showing the make-believe life described in your post.

In the real world, American citizens have learned to distinguish between the two.

Fact or fiction, non-fiction,

It is little wonder why a Sheriff would confiscate their guns until they left town.

Nice of you to admit that there were gun laws in cities and towns way back then.

Reminding us that Wyatt Earp was a living Sheriff doing his duty to enforce those laws.
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Sorry, 'because I say so' just doesn't cut it. There's lots of documentaries out there on the Old West, and historical books and accounts. I suggest you get educated. Your whole premise is nothing but bullshit.

 

[JoeB131]

Mexico has among the most restrictive gun comtrol laws in the world.

Therefore there is no gun violence in Mexico, huh?

Criminals do not follow laws....you moron lefties.

Is murder illegal? It still happens.

Actually, Mexico's constitution has a clause almost identical to the Second Amendment... they just don't have the bizarre intrepretation the National Rampage Association has fostered.

 

[danielpalos]

In the 2008 Heller decision, the Supreme Court affirmed for the first time that the right belongs to individuals, exclusively for self-defense in the home, while also including, as dicta, that the right is not unlimited and does not preclude the existence of certain long-standing prohibitions such as those forbidding "the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill" or restrictions on "the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. State and local governments are limited to the same extent as the federal government from infringing this right.

Laws regulating ownership and carry of firearms, apart from the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, were passed at a local level rather than by Congress. “Gun control laws were adopted pretty quickly in these places,” says Winkler. “Most were adopted by municipal governments exercising self-control and self-determination.”

Carrying any kind of weapon, guns, or knives, was not allowed other than outside town borders and inside the home. When visitors left their weapons with a law officer upon entering town, they'd receive a token, like a coat check, which they'd exchange for their guns when leaving town.

The practice was started in Southern states, which were among the first to enact laws against concealed carry of guns and knives, in the early 1800s. -- The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America, points to an 1840 Alabama court that, in upholding its state ban, ruled it was a state's right to regulate where and how a citizen could carry, and that the state constitution's allowance of personal firearms “is not to bear arms upon all occasions and in all places.”

Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business

Our cities and towns need to get back to protecting its citizens from nuts with guns; they have that right.
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Right wingers simply prefer to practice the abomination of hypocrisy upon the less fortunate instead of actually being legal to the laws.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

 

[danielpalos]

That would prevent all these filthy ass State and Local laws that infringes upon our Constitutional right that says that it can't be infringed.

My mistook your post.

Cities and towns should be allowed to set their own gun laws. In the city I live in I would support large fins for carrying a gun in public places.

Very large fines !!!!!

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You may not know this but the Constitution is the supreme law of the land and it very clearly says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Do you really think that states and locals have the right to ignore the Bill of Rights? I don't think so.

If that is the case then in the town where I live we could make the Negros slaves.

It says a well regulated militia is a State's sovereign Right. And, well regulated militia of the People have literal recourse to our Second Amendment unlike the unorganized militia of the People.

Who are subject to the police power of a State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

 

[danielpalos]

You're still comparing the Old West with today when there is no comparison.

Sweet pie, this isn’t the old west.

In the 2008 Heller decision, the Supreme Court affirmed for the first time that the right belongs to individuals, exclusively for self-defense in the home, while also including, as dicta, that the right is not unlimited and does not preclude the existence of certain long-standing prohibitions such as those forbidding "the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill" or restrictions on "the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. State and local governments are limited to the same extent as the federal government from infringing this right.
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Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

 

[Leo123]

In the 2008 Heller decision, the Supreme Court affirmed for the first time that the right belongs to individuals, exclusively for self-defense in the home, while also including, as dicta, that the right is not unlimited and does not preclude the existence of certain long-standing prohibitions such as those forbidding "the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill" or restrictions on "the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. State and local governments are limited to the same extent as the federal government from infringing this right.

Laws regulating ownership and carry of firearms, apart from the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, were passed at a local level rather than by Congress. “Gun control laws were adopted pretty quickly in these places,” says Winkler. “Most were adopted by municipal governments exercising self-control and self-determination.”

Carrying any kind of weapon, guns, or knives, was not allowed other than outside town borders and inside the home. When visitors left their weapons with a law officer upon entering town, they'd receive a token, like a coat check, which they'd exchange for their guns when leaving town.

The practice was started in Southern states, which were among the first to enact laws against concealed carry of guns and knives, in the early 1800s. -- The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America, points to an 1840 Alabama court that, in upholding its state ban, ruled it was a state's right to regulate where and how a citizen could carry, and that the state constitution's allowance of personal firearms “is not to bear arms upon all occasions and in all places.”

Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business

Our cities and towns need to get back to protecting its citizens from nuts with guns; they have that right.
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Right wingers simply prefer to practice the abomination of hypocrisy upon the less fortunate instead of actually being legal to the laws.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Tell that to the inner city gang bangers. Apparently they don’t much give a shit about gun laws. Meanwhile Democrats and the left want to disarm law abiding citizens. Talk about hypocrisy and laws that don’t work.

 

[danielpalos]

In the 2008 Heller decision, the Supreme Court affirmed for the first time that the right belongs to individuals, exclusively for self-defense in the home, while also including, as dicta, that the right is not unlimited and does not preclude the existence of certain long-standing prohibitions such as those forbidding "the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill" or restrictions on "the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. State and local governments are limited to the same extent as the federal government from infringing this right.

Laws regulating ownership and carry of firearms, apart from the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, were passed at a local level rather than by Congress. “Gun control laws were adopted pretty quickly in these places,” says Winkler. “Most were adopted by municipal governments exercising self-control and self-determination.”

Carrying any kind of weapon, guns, or knives, was not allowed other than outside town borders and inside the home. When visitors left their weapons with a law officer upon entering town, they'd receive a token, like a coat check, which they'd exchange for their guns when leaving town.

The practice was started in Southern states, which were among the first to enact laws against concealed carry of guns and knives, in the early 1800s. -- The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America, points to an 1840 Alabama court that, in upholding its state ban, ruled it was a state's right to regulate where and how a citizen could carry, and that the state constitution's allowance of personal firearms “is not to bear arms upon all occasions and in all places.”

Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business

Our cities and towns need to get back to protecting its citizens from nuts with guns; they have that right.
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Right wingers simply prefer to practice the abomination of hypocrisy upon the less fortunate instead of actually being legal to the laws.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Tell that to the inner city gang bangers. Apparently they don’t much give a shit about gun laws. Meanwhile Democrats and the left want to disarm law abiding citizens. Talk about hypocrisy and laws that don’t work.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

 

[Leo123]

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

MS13 is a well regulated criminal militia apparently because they have all the guns.

 

[danielpalos]

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

MS13 is a well regulated criminal militia apparently because they have all the guns.

Our legislators are not doing their job.

 

[JoeB131]

Armed people don't get on the boxcars.

They do when their fellow citizens turn them in. The reality of the holocaust is that guns didn't make a difference. The Warsaw Ghetto uprising had a shitload of guns... and managed to kill a whopping 19 Germans before they were all rounded up and killed...

 

[daveman]

Armed people don't get on the boxcars.

They do when their fellow citizens turn them in. The reality of the holocaust is that guns didn't make a difference. The Warsaw Ghetto uprising had a shitload of guns... and managed to kill a whopping 19 Germans before they were all rounded up and killed...

And you're more than willing to turn in your fellow citizens.

Do you still believe you'll be given a seat on the Politiburo? Note to the history-illiterate would-be revolutionary:

Traitors are first against the wall.

 

[Batcat]

Visitors in Thombstone were required to leave their guns, Bowie knives and dirks with a law officer when entering town but the residents could carry if they asked for a permit. The visitors were cowboys who loved to get drunk and the residents knew drunken cowboys and guns was a bad mix.



ORDINANCE №9 OF THE CITY OF TOMBSTONE

To Provide against Carrying of Deadly Weapons

Section 1. It is hereby declared unlawful to carry in the hand or upon the person or otherwise any deadly weapon within the limits of said city of Tombstone, without first obtaining a permit in writing.

Section 2: This prohibition does not extend to persons immediately leaving or entering the city, who, with good faith, and within reasonable time are proceeding to deposit, or take from the place of deposit such deadly weapon.

Section 3: All fire-arms of every description, and bowie knives and dirks, are included within the prohibition of this ordinance.

 

[Batcat]

Armed people don't get on the boxcars.

They do when their fellow citizens turn them in. The reality of the holocaust is that guns didn't make a difference. The Warsaw Ghetto uprising had a shitload of guns... and managed to kill a whopping 19 Germans before they were all rounded up and killed...

A shitload of guns?

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Being meticulous record keepers, the Nazis provided, and left behind, well-documented reports of the event, this one formulated by Jürgen Stroop, who led the German troops assigned the problem of the Jewish Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. The following comprised the record of the entirety of the weaponry and materiel that were recovered once the Jewish fighters had been annihilated:

7 Polish rifles
1 Russian rifle
1 German rifle
59 pistols of various caliber
Several hundred hand grenades, including Polish and home made ones
Several hundred incendiary bottles
Home made explosives
Infernal machines with fuses

Guns & Politics: The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising

Poland has become a beacon of hope for Western culture

dailycaller.com

 

[2aguy]

Gun control is nothing new. Way back in the day of the cowboy’s gun control was tougher than it is today

The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms and was adopted on December 15, 1791 as part of the Bill of Rights.

In the 2008 Heller decision, the Supreme Court affirmed for the first time that the right belongs to individuals, exclusively for self-defense in the home, while also including, as dicta, that the right is not unlimited and does not preclude the existence of certain long-standing prohibitions such as those forbidding "the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill" or restrictions on "the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. State and local governments are limited to the same extent as the federal government from infringing this right.

Gun Control Is as Old as the Old West

Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business
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The “Old West” conjures up all sorts of imagery, but broadly, the term is used to evoke life among the crusty prospectors, threadbare gold panners, madams of brothels, and six-shooter-packing cowboys in small frontier towns – such as Tombstone, Deadwood, Dodge City, or Abilene, to name a few. One other thing these cities had in common: strict gun control laws.

Laws regulating ownership and carry of firearms, apart from the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, were passed at a local level rather than by Congress. “Gun control laws were adopted pretty quickly in these places,” says Winkler. “Most were adopted by municipal governments exercising self-control and self-determination.”

Carrying any kind of weapon, guns, or knives, was not allowed other than outside town borders and inside the home. When visitors left their weapons with a law officer upon entering town, they'd receive a token, like a coat check, which they'd exchange for their guns when leaving town.

The practice was started in Southern states, which were among the first to enact laws against concealed carry of guns and knives, in the early 1800s. -- The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America, points to an 1840 Alabama court that, in upholding its state ban, ruled it was a state's right to regulate where and how a citizen could carry, and that the state constitution's allowance of personal firearms “is not to bear arms upon all occasions and in all places.”

Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business
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Dodge City in 1878 (Wikimedia Commons)

It's October 26, 1881, in Tombstone, and Arizona
The laws of Tombstone at the time required visitors, upon entering town to disarm, either at a hotel or a lawman's office. (Residents of many famed cattle towns, such as Dodge City, Abilene, and Deadwood, had similar restrictions.)
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"Tombstone had much more restrictive laws on carrying guns in public in the 1880s than it has today,” Same goes for most of the New West, to varying degrees, in the once-rowdy frontier towns of Nevada, Kansas, Montana, and South Dakota.

Dodge City, Kansas, formed a municipal government in 1878. According to Stephen Aron, a professor of history at UCLA, the first law passed was one prohibiting the carry of guns in town, likely by civic leaders and influential merchants who wanted people to move there, Cultivating a reputation of peace and stability was necessary, even in boisterous towns, if it were to become anything more transient than a one-industry boom town.

Laws regulating ownership and carry of firearms, apart from the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment, were passed at a local level rather than by Congress. “Gun control laws were adopted pretty quickly in these places,” says Winkler. “Most were adopted by municipal governments exercising self-control and self-determination.” Carrying any kind of weapon, guns or knives, was not allowed other than outside town borders and inside the home. When visitors left their weapons with a law officer upon entering town, they'd receive a token, like a coat check, which they'd exchange for their guns when leaving town.

Louisiana, too, upheld an early ban on concealed carry firearms. When a Kentucky court reversed its ban, the state constitution was amended to specify the Kentucky general assembly was within its rights to, in the future, regulate or prohibit concealed carry.

Still, Winkler says, it was an affirmation that regulation was compatible with the Second Amendment. The federal government of the 1800s largely stayed out of gun-law court battles.

“People were allowed to own guns, and everyone did own guns [in the West], for the most part,” says Winkler.

“Having a firearm to protect yourself in the lawless wilderness from wild animals, hostile native tribes, and outlaws was a wise idea. But when you came into town, you had to either check your guns if you were a visitor or keep your guns at home if you were a resident.”
Gun Control Is as Old as the Old West

Did the Wild West Have More Gun Control Than We Do Today?

The answer is YES. When you entered a frontier town, you were legally required to leave your guns at the stables on the outskirts of town or drop them off with the sheriff, who would give you a token in exchange. You checked your guns then like you’d check your overcoat today at a Boston restaurant in winter. Visitors were welcome, but their guns were not.
While people were allowed to have guns at home for self-protection, frontier towns usually barred anyone but law enforcement from carrying guns in public.

When Dodge City residents organized their municipal government, do you know what the very first law they passed was? A gun control law. They declared that “any person or persons found carrying concealed weapons in the city of Dodge or violating the laws of the State shall be dealt with according to law.” Many frontier towns, including Tombstone, Arizona—the site of the infamous “Shootout at the OK Corral”—also barred the carrying of guns openly.

Like any law regulating things that are small and easy to conceal, the gun control of the Wild West wasn’t always perfectly enforced. But statistics show that, next to drunk and disorderly conduct, the most common cause of arrest was illegally carrying a firearm. Sheriffs and marshals took gun control seriously.
Did the Wild West Have More Gun Control Than We Do Today?

Illinois town bans assault weapons, will fine those who keep them
The town of Deerfield, Ill., has moved to ban assault weapons, including the AR-15 used in the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, claiming the measure will make the town more safe from mass shootings.

The ordinance was passed unanimously Monday by the Deerfield Village Board. It states the move is in the best interest of public health and will spur a culture change toward "the normative value that assault weapons should have no role or purpose in civil society."

It also takes a swing at a popular reading of the Second Amendment, stating the weapons are "not reasonably necessary to protect an individual's right of self-defense" or to preserve a well-regulated militia.
Illinois town bans assault weapons, will fine those who keep them

Chicago suburb bans assault weapons in response to Parkland shooting

With the future of federal gun control legislation uncertain, an affluent Chicago suburb this week took the aggressive step of banning assault weapons within its borders, in what local officials said was a direct response to the mass shooting at a Parkland, Fla., high school earlier this year.

Officials in Deerfield, Ill., unanimously approved the ordinance, which prohibits the possession, manufacture or sale of a range of firearms, as well as large-capacity magazines. Residents of the 19,000-person village have until June 13 to remove the guns from village limits or face up to $1,000 per day in fines.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...hooting/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.95db16134355

Seattle will require gun owners to lock up their firearms, after the City Council voted unanimously Monday to pass legislation proposed by Mayor Jenny Durkan.
Starting 180 days after Durkan signs the legislation, it will be a civil infraction to store a gun without the firearm being secured in a locked container.
The legislation will apply only to guns kept somewhere, rather than those carried by or under the control of their owners.
Also under the legislation, it will be a civil infraction when an owner knows or should know that a minor, “at-risk person” or unauthorized user is likely to access a gun and such a person actually does access the weapon.

The legislation allows fines up to $500 when a gun isn’t locked up,
up to $1,000 when a prohibited person accesses a firearm
and up to $10,000 when a prohibited person uses the weapon to hurt someone or commit a crime.
Gun owners face fines up to $10,000 for not locking up their guns under new Seattle law

What has changed from then to now??
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You really don't know what you are talking about.......

In Tombstone, the criminals ignored the law....Doc Holiday ignored the law......one Earp was shot and killed, the other shot and maimed....

And this...

Most of the gun control laws in the Old West, if they existed at all, had nothing to do with confiscation or restrictions on gun type. They had more to do with gun use by restricting and prohibiting firing pistols in city streets. And, while few opponents of gun control today would object to limitations on discharging firearms in a busy intersection, gun control laws of this extent were largely unheard of in most American cities. In fact, they were even unusual in the Old West, and using the gun control ordinance from Tombstone as an example, they were proven ineffective.
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There were other frontier towns with gun control restrictions similar to Tombstone. Most made it unlawful to carry in the hand or upon the person any deadly weapon within the limits of said city, without first obtaining a permit in writing. But, in those towns, as in Tombstone, in the closest equivalents to a “gun-free zone” in the 19th century, such gun control measures did little to stem gun violence, and likely provoked the infamous kerfuffle at the O.K. Corral.
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Lots of guns, not a lot of crime​

Mass violence, like what took place at the O.K. Corral, was actually infrequent. Moreover, the Old West reputation for lawlessness is unwarranted, despite, at times, an elevated number of homicides.

Crime such as rape and robberies occurred at a much lower rate than in modern America — certainly lower than in the 1970s and 1980s, when the nation was wracked by a surge in criminality. It is also worth noting that crime and gun violence has fallen steeply since the 1990s, even as gun ownership has increased dramatically.
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For instance, historian Robert McGrath, who wrote a book about crime in the most notorious Old West towns, found that “robbery, theft, and burglary occurred infrequently,” and that “bank robbery, rape, racial violence, and serious juvenile crime seem not to have occurred at all.” And, “while the homicide rate was high,” McGrath wrote, “the killings were almost always the result of fights between willing combatants.”
The few gun control-type laws that existed were poorly and inconsistently enforced. Additionally, McGrath concluded that it was widespread gun ownership that deterred criminality in these areas in which law enforcement had little authority or ability to combat crime.
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Leaving that discussion aside for a moment, what’s unquestionable is the fact that gun ownership was nearly universal on the frontier and seen as a vital element for both individual, and importantly, community protection. It wasn’t enough to merely rely on the authorities. One needed to protect himself and the community around him. And that viewpoint still holds true today.

 

[2aguy]

Visitors in Thombstone were required to leave their guns, Bowie knives and dirks with a law officer when entering town but the residents could carry if they asked for a permit. The visitors were cowboys who loved to get drunk and the residents knew drunken cowboys and guns was a bad mix.



ORDINANCE №9 OF THE CITY OF TOMBSTONE

To Provide against Carrying of Deadly Weapons

Section 1. It is hereby declared unlawful to carry in the hand or upon the person or otherwise any deadly weapon within the limits of said city of Tombstone, without first obtaining a permit in writing.

Section 2: This prohibition does not extend to persons immediately leaving or entering the city, who, with good faith, and within reasonable time are proceeding to deposit, or take from the place of deposit such deadly weapon.

Section 3: All fire-arms of every description, and bowie knives and dirks, are included within the prohibition of this ordinance.

The laws didn't work in Tombstone or anywhere else...criminals ignored those laws even then...

Gun Control Is as Old as the Old West
The laws of Tombstone at the time required visitors, upon entering town to disarm, either at a hotel or a lawman’s office. (Residents of many famed cattle towns, such as Dodge City, Abilene, and Deadwood, had similar restrictions.)

But these cowboys had no intention of doing so as they strolled around town with Colt revolvers and Winchester rifles in plain sight.

Earlier on this fateful day, Virgil had disarmed one cowboy forcefully, while Wyatt confronted another and county sheriff Johnny Behan failed to persuade two more to turn in their firearms.


When the Earps and Holliday met the cowboys on Fremont Street in the early afternoon, Virgil once again called on them to disarm. Nobody knows who fired first. Ike Clanton and Billy Claiborne, who were unarmed, ran at the start of the fight and survived. Billy Clanton and the McLaury brothers, who stood and fought, were killed by the lawmen, all of whom walked away.

Read more: Gun Control Is as Old as the Old West
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Gun Control, 1881

The ordinance, in this case at least, proved to be almost entirely ineffective. As recounted in the court decision, Sheriff Behan had “demanded of the Clantons and McLaurys that they give up their arms, and … they ‘demurred,’ as he said, and did not do it.”
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This reliance is misplaced. A brief filed by historians and legal scholars explains that nineteenth-century prohibitions like the one in Tombstone were “unusual” and imposed “in response to transitory conditions.” Any “supposed distinction between populated and unpopulated areas, offered to justify heavy restrictions on carrying in the District, is not supported by the existence of handgun carry bans in a handful of mostly small towns in the Wild West, when nearly all major cities had no such laws.”
3/5/18

NRA-ILA: The Myth of Effective Wild West Gun Control Exploded - The Truth About Guns
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[2aguy]

Southern states, which were among the first to enact laws against concealed carry of guns and knives,

While I agree with 99% of what you have posted here, I wonder if you are not attempting to expand gun control with your inclusion of "knives." I believe that is an embellishment. Until recently--the last 40-50 years or so, which is not the old west, I have never heard of a prohibition on knives. The research that you did is commendable--but the inclusion of something as seemingly innocent as knives is a stretch.

They banned concealed carry because of old fashioned ideas that only criminals would hide their guns...meanwhile, open carry of guns was completely and universally allowed...they never want to focus on that point.....

 

[2aguy]

Visitors in Thombstone were required to leave their guns, Bowie knives and dirks with a law officer when entering town but the residents could carry if they asked for a permit. The visitors were cowboys who loved to get drunk and the residents knew drunken cowboys and guns was a bad mix.



ORDINANCE №9 OF THE CITY OF TOMBSTONE

To Provide against Carrying of Deadly Weapons

Section 1. It is hereby declared unlawful to carry in the hand or upon the person or otherwise any deadly weapon within the limits of said city of Tombstone, without first obtaining a permit in writing.

Section 2: This prohibition does not extend to persons immediately leaving or entering the city, who, with good faith, and within reasonable time are proceeding to deposit, or take from the place of deposit such deadly weapon.

Section 3: All fire-arms of every description, and bowie knives and dirks, are included within the prohibition of this ordinance.

And the cowboys and other criminals ignored that law...to the point they murdered one Earp by shooting him, and maimed another Earp...by shooting him...

Doc Holiday completely ignored that law as well...

Please...look deeper than your anti-gun extremism...

 

[struth]

Visitors in Thombstone were required to leave their guns, Bowie knives and dirks with a law officer when entering town but the residents could carry if they asked for a permit. The visitors were cowboys who loved to get drunk and the residents knew drunken cowboys and guns was a bad mix.



ORDINANCE №9 OF THE CITY OF TOMBSTONE

To Provide against Carrying of Deadly Weapons

Section 1. It is hereby declared unlawful to carry in the hand or upon the person or otherwise any deadly weapon within the limits of said city of Tombstone, without first obtaining a permit in writing.

Section 2: This prohibition does not extend to persons immediately leaving or entering the city, who, with good faith, and within reasonable time are proceeding to deposit, or take from the place of deposit such deadly weapon.

Section 3: All fire-arms of every description, and bowie knives and dirks, are included within the prohibition of this ordinance.

and as we all know the bad guys violated the law....and we had the infamous gun fight at the OK Corral

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Visitors in Thombstone were required to leave their guns, Bowie knives and dirks with a law officer when entering town but the residents could carry if they asked for a permit. The visitors were cowboys who loved to get drunk and the residents knew drunken cowboys and guns was a bad mix.



ORDINANCE №9 OF THE CITY OF TOMBSTONE

To Provide against Carrying of Deadly Weapons

Section 1. It is hereby declared unlawful to carry in the hand or upon the person or otherwise any deadly weapon within the limits of said city of Tombstone, without first obtaining a permit in writing.

Section 2: This prohibition does not extend to persons immediately leaving or entering the city, who, with good faith, and within reasonable time are proceeding to deposit, or take from the place of deposit such deadly weapon.

Section 3: All fire-arms of every description, and bowie knives and dirks, are included within the prohibition of this ordinance.

I visited Tombstone while i was in Arizona, you were allowed to openly carry there, just not in a hipholster as gun slinging was outlawed by Wyatt Earp.