Wasteful war spending update. F-15 jet worth $87-100 million crashes in Kuwait

[CowboyTed]

Remind us oh fake conservative from Georgia what part of the Constitution covers daycare ?
Maybe the 10th ? Moron.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people

Dude...

What part of the Constitution covers bombing a country on the other side of the world that is no threat to the US...

Oh, forgot, the part where the President has to allegations of raping and assaulting a 13 year old girl... So he is allowed to bomb some poor fuckers on the other side of the world that got picked as the scape goats... Trump doesn't give a **** about Iran or Iranian People... Even his own supporters are struggling to keep a straight story on why he is doing it..

 

[toobfreak]

Hmm. I wonder what parents answering a poll would choose between Daycare versus war jets.

Really? You expect anyone to need to make that choice? Can you give us the names of three people in this country who could not get daycare for their kid because an airplane crashed somewhere in Kuwait?

Ever think that the point to war is to create a small evil at a moderate cost to avoid having to deal with a great evil at a far greater cost later on?

 

[HikerGuy83]

Dozens of military aircraft (including fighters, bombers, and trainers) are destroyed in accidents worldwide yearly.

She doesn't care about that.

She's a no-integrity spammer/stalker who can't help but dig through the piles (and that word is purposeful) of left wing propaganda just hoping for a dopamine buzz when she finds something she thinks she can post to get a rise out of the real conservatives.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Dude...

What part of the Constitution covers bombing a country on the other side of the world that is no threat to the US...

Oh, forgot, the part where the President has to allegations of raping and assaulting a 13 year old girl... So he is allowed to bomb some poor fuckers on the other side of the world that got picked as the scape goats... Trump doesn't give a **** about Iran or Iranian People... Even his own supporters are struggling to keep a straight story on why he is doing it..

 

[SweetSue92]

Right here:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;

Common defense is expressly directed. "general welfare" is up for debate. Clearly the founders prioritized the first, which makes sense as you can have no "welfare" if we're all dead.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Hmm. I wonder what parents answering a poll would choose between Daycare versus war jets.
Tough choice!

Where I live (where people work), that poll would be 95%+ for the jets.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Right here:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;

That argument is so old and debunked it's amazing you'd even try.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Common defense is expressly directed. "general welfare" is up for debate. Clearly the founders prioritized the first, which makes sense as you can have no "welfare" if we're all dead.

Madison was very clear that general welfare meant nothing compared to what we call welfare today.

As he stated himself, this was connected to the enumeration of specific powers granted the federal government.

Federalist 45 makes VERY CLEAR that the federal government does not have this kind of latitude.

 

[SweetSue92]

Madison was very clear that general welfare meant nothing compared to what we call welfare today.

As he stated himself, this was connected to the enumeration of specific powers granted the federal government.

Federalist 45 makes VERY CLEAR that the federal government does not have this kind of latitude.

Right, I think they made clear it should go to the states, where they can choose to bankrupt themselves like CA, etc.

 

[AntonToo]

That argument is so old and debunked it's amazing you'd even try.

"debunked"????

Ignoramus, SCOTUS has consistently held up this broad power of the Federal government to spend on providing for Americans.

You live out on the moon.

 

[AntonToo]

Right, I think they made clear it should go to the states, where they can choose to bankrupt themselves like CA, etc.

States have absolutely no problem spending Federal grants for child care. Duh.

 

[HikerGuy83]

"debunked"????

Ignoramus, SCOTUS has consistently held up this broad power of the Federal government to spend on providing for Americans.

You live out on the moon.

Yes debunked.....

It doesn't use the General Welfare Clause as justification.

The FDR SCOTUS was as corrupt as it comes. And it followed a SCOTUS that fought FDR on all his givaway programs to the point that he attempted to pack the court.

How's the view from Saturn?

 

[HikerGuy83]

Right, I think they made clear it should go to the states, where they can choose to bankrupt themselves like CA, etc.

You can't read Federalist 45 and expect the general welfare clause argument to hold up.

 

[AntonToo]

Yes debunked.....

It doesn't use the General Welfare Clause as justification.

The FDR SCOTUS was as corrupt as it comes. And it followed a SCOTUS that fought FDR on all his givaway programs to the point that he attempted to pack the court.

How's the view from Saturn?

FDR is long gone, so are all the justices on his court.

Yet SCOTUS consistently upholds these broad spending powers to this day.

What the **** are you even talking about?

General welfare clause and the Supreme Court | Law | Research Starters | EBSCO Research

<p>The General Welfare Clause, found within the U.S. Constitution's taxing and spending clause, has been subject to differing interpretations regarding the extent of Congressional power. James Madison's interpretation was narrow, viewing the clause as a summary of specific powers allocated to...

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Overall, the Supreme Court’s expansive interpretation of the General Welfare Clause suggests a strong endorsement of federal authority in promoting the collective well-being of the nation.

 

[Thinker101]

States have absolutely no problem spending Federal grants for child care. Duh.

Sure didn't seem to bother Minnesota...moron.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Yes I do lean left. At least I admit it. I knew you loved Trump. You could pretend you didn't like Republicans because you didn't. Then you could pretend to not like Trump even though he won because of people exactly like you. My brother and friends are Notsees too Harry.

I'm ashamed of all of you. I won't call them out because I value my relationship with my Notsee idiot relatives and friends. But I'll call you out you piece of shit.

bobo someday you will find out your shit stinks just as bad as the people you think you are better than...

 

[Hafar1014]

According to U.S. Department of Defense and intelligence assessments, Iran and its affiliated proxy groups have been responsible for the deaths of over 600 American service members in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Military Times +1
Key Details on American Deaths (2003–Present):

• Iraq War (2003–2011): The Pentagon determined that at least 603 U.S. personnel deaths in Iraq were the result of Iran-backed militants. These casualties were caused by explosively formed penetrators (EFPs), rockets, and other Iranian-supplied weaponry, accounting for approximately 17% of all U.S. combat fatalities during that period.
• Recent Activity (2023–2024): Following the October 7, 2023, attack on Israel, Iranian-backed militias launched over 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, resulting in additional injuries and deaths. In January 2024, a drone strike by Kataib Hezbollah killed three U.S. soldiers in Jordan.
• Total Scope: Some estimates suggest that over four decades of targeting, the Iranian regime and its proxies have been linked to the deaths of more than 1,000 Americans, including military personnel and civilians in incidents such as the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing.
  Foundation for Defense of Democracies +6

Context on Proxies:
Iran uses the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) to arm and train proxy groups, including Kataib Hezbollah in Iraq and various factions in Afghanistan, to target U.S. forces.
Military Times +1

 

[AntonToo]

Sure didn't seem to bother Minnesota...moron.

"Thinker" thanks for supporting exactly what I'm saying.

 

[HikerGuy83]

FDR is long gone, so are all the justices on his court.

Yet SCOTUS consistently upholds these broad spending powers to this day.

What the **** are you even talking about?

Something that is a fact.

The General Welfare Clause, to the best of my knowledge has never been used as a basis for these powers.

Even in the Obamacare argument the dissenting argument (i.e. 4 of the 9 judges) stated that the constitution gave no authority to the federal government to run a health care system.

So, Shove it sideways fool.

I can't help that your hiding under the skirts of morons like William O. Douglas (and penumbras) isn't working for you.

 

[BrokeLoser]

With the money wasted on this one plane only, this is how many kids’ daycare could have been paid for a whole year.

Daycare for a Year vs. One F-15E
The average annual cost of full-time daycare in the U.S. is approximately $11,000–$12,000 per child (national average across all care types and ages).
The Math:


|Scenario |Kids Covered |
|---------------------------------|-------------------|
|At $11,000/year |~7,900 children|
|At $12,000/year |~7,250 children|
|At $15,000/year (infant care avg)|~5,800 children|

To put it simply:
One F-15E ≈ Full-time daycare for roughly 7,000–8,000 children for an entire year.
That’s enough to cover every child in a mid-sized American city.
That’s how money gets wasted in war.

F-15 Crash: Watch video of fighter jet spiralling down amid Israel-Iran war, Kuwait army confirm several jets crashed - The Economic Times

F15 fighter jet crashed in Kuwait during Israel-Iran war: A US F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jet reportedly crashed in Kuwait today. Several social media videos showed the aircraft spiraling down with engine flames. The pilot is reported safe. Details on the crash location and cause are...

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Three rockets that didn't down the Iranian missile, how much did they cost?

https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/4418568/three-us-f-15s-involved-in-friendly-fire-incident-in-kuwait-pilots-safe/

The war machine is humming.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/LMT/

Lots of good high paying jobs go into building those jets.

Right here:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;

So with evidence how much was taken from the federal government, with evidence....

Fact check: What’s really happening with child care fraud in Minnesota • Louisiana Illuminator

A video by right-wing YouTuber Nick Shirley purports to show that various Minneapolis day cares run by Somali Americans are not providing services to children despite receiving public funding.

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The actual evidence doesn't back anything close to your claims...

This is more Bullshit from the MAGA...

Libs have ZERO credibility. When they talk about spending nobody sane pays attention.