Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?

[Nostra]

There is nothing illegal here.... dumb? yes. Heresay? yes
WIth all of this - obviously what is being ignored is we have two state officials who recorded a conversation with the President so they could give or sell it to the media.
It wasn't leaked. It was provided.
Is that illegal?

Have you looked at Georgia and Federal laws related to it?

If a democratic president had done what he did, would you be defending the Democratic president that lost his second term, for the same actions as Trump has done?

Yep. I would. You will never find one post from me discussing impeaching Obama. I thought the WJC impeachment was stupid too. Trump is done in less than three weeks. Who will you blame for all your ills then? Scapegoat will be long gone. Issues will still be here.

Trump is a criminal. Do we accept that?

In America you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Do we still accept that?

Yes.. and there is abundant evidence that Trump is a criminal.

Bring it.

 

[Nostra]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is talking about sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected governement of the United States of America.

sounds just like your Russian Collusion bullshit

Sounds like you defending the POS Trump again as he breaks the law. I guess you anti-American assfucks couod casre less about law and order.

What law?

Be specific.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52%20section:20511%20edition:prelim)

You lose again sucker. You can't debate the topic intelligently or informatively. Pathetic as always.

The innerweb irony meter just exploded.

 

[Faun]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is talking about sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected governement of the United States of America.

sounds just like your Russian Collusion bullshit

There's a audio tape, genius.

How did they get it?

Your story is behind a paywall.

FAIL!

LOL

To a fucking moron, that means the audio recording doesn't exist.

 

[Care4all]

"A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office- knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process,

Why would Trump get jail time for stuff that Dems are doing?

Because there is evidence right here on tape that Trump is tampering.

BUT There is no evidence of fraud or tampering in the Pres election and 59 state courts have said as much, and the Supreme court, and Barr, and all the Dept of Defense. And the Sec of State of Georgia and everybody with a brain...

How did his call "knowingly and willfully deprive(s), defraud(s), or attempt(s) to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process"?

The argument is that he was implying the Governor use his influence to commit illegal acts. Which, while we all know is true, cannot be proven in court with his words alone. I wouldn't think so, anyway.

He was talking to the Secretary of State, which I think is a prime example of a conflict of interest.

Trump never should have argued with Brad over the votes.

You are coming across as an idiot.

You were shown the definition of Conflict of Interest, too bad you ignored it, that makes YOU the idiot.

Investopedia

What Is a Conflict of Interest?
A conflict of interest occurs when an entity or individual becomes unreliable because of a clash between personal (or self-serving) interests and professional duties or responsibilities. Such a conflict occurs when a company or person has a vested interest—such as money, status, knowledge, relationships, or reputation—which puts into question whether their actions, judgment, and/or decision-making can be unbiased. When such a situation arises, the party is usually asked to remove themselves, and it is often legally required of them.

=====

Trump as the INDIVIDUAL who has a VESTED interest in having 11,780 votes changed to his side to increase his chance of getting reelected, while showing that he isn't UNBIASED and should never been there in the first place.

This 101 stuff, you going to continue down the road with YOUR idiocy in denying the obvious?

Did Nazi Pelousy have a "conflict of interest" when she violated Kung Flu protocols of the House by forcing all member to return to vote in person for her as Speaker?

I'll await your call for her to resign.

January 3rd is the date chosen by the constitution. There is no changing it.

 

[j-mac]

There is nothing illegal here.... dumb? yes. Heresay? yes
WIth all of this - obviously what is being ignored is we have two state officials who recorded a conversation with the President so they could give or sell it to the media.
It wasn't leaked. It was provided.
Is that illegal?

Have you looked at Georgia and Federal laws related to it?

If a democratic president had done what he did, would you be defending the Democratic president that lost his second term, for the same actions as Trump has done?

Yep. I would. You will never find one post from me discussing impeaching Obama. I thought the WJC impeachment was stupid too. Trump is done in less than three weeks. Who will you blame for all your ills then? Scapegoat will be long gone. Issues will still be here.

Trump is a criminal. Do we accept that?

In America you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Do we still accept that?

Yes.. and there is abundant evidence that Trump is a criminal.

Yet, you most likely turn a blind eye to Biden's graft....Why is that?

 

[Flash]

If anybody wants to know what Trump really said instead of the typical Wapo TDS inflicted cherry picking here is a transcript of the conversation.

The Democrats stole the election and the officials are so afraid of the goddamn Negros in that Atlanta ghetto that they won't do a full audit of Fulton County and Trump is pissed as he should be. All Americans should be pissed. The Democrats have stolen our country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...68e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html


The bottom line is, when you add it all up and then you start adding, you know, 300,000 fake ballots. Then the other thing they said is in Fulton County and other areas. And this may or may not be true . . . this just came up this morning, that they are burning their ballots, that they are shredding, shredding ballots and removing equipment. They’re changing the equipment on the Dominion machines and, you know, that’s not legal.

 

[beautress]

It can't be too comfortable to tell the President that he's full of shit:

Or that he and Brian Kemp are stealing Trump blind. He's busy stealing votes from Trump while
Trump is asking him to find some.

Raffensperger and Kemp are two rino republicans who sunk millions into Dominion vote stealing machines
for the entire state who should actually be in jail for election fraud, of which there is much in Georgia.

It's a hoot that all you folks crying over the past two months over election irregularities can't present anything but innuendo and then when it hits you in your face you're in denial. Tell us, in all the manual recounts of paper ballots conducted where did they come up with a descrepancy caused by those Dominion voting machines?

It's a hoot how your idiot-mesmerizing press omits facts that support President Trump but plan, edit, and publish lying lies that Demmies rejoice in that were actually the sins of the Clinton war room, George Soros, and rich tricksters who cheated other people out of their intellectual properties, then turned around making billions off someone else's brain trust, and if it feels good it's a drug for gullible people who fall for lies that will bury the Constitution in commie hands. Commies make laws that lead to mass murders of peaceful dissenters. Its proponents don't want even a whisper of opposition, by any means possible including slavery, justice only for themselves, death to dissenters.

Too lazy to move to a real communist society, today's communists prefer telling sweet nothings and cheating at the polls by insider deep state operators with preplanned silencers of the truth. With support of the ignorant and preaching Alinskies tried and true methods, they fool most of the people most of the time usurping thespian tricks to make cheap mush seem like caviar to the unchary.

Trump is determined to overthrow the election.

Trump called Georgia secretary of state nearly 20 times before threatening and likely illegal conversation

President Donald Trump called the Georgia Secretary of State nearly 20 times before his now-infamous call during which he threatened Brad Raffensperger, demanded he "find" votes to overturn the election, and likely committed an illegal act. "Raffensperger received the call from the White House...

www.rawstory.com

He already won. Democrats used every surreptitious trick in the book to steal it for Mother Communista. It takes time and patience to peel the onion. Trump fought every lie the Demonrats hurled at him. He is not breaking any laws going after the truth, and I support him and hope he beats the thugs of the left seeking raw revenge for criminal masterminds Rodham Clinton, Hussein Obama, Maxugly StalkingWaters, Upchuck Shoekickmer, Cheapshot Piglosi, Jarrold-Adam Des Asters, Extortion Joe Bidingtime, et al Demonrat press propaganda specialists.

 

[surada]

There is nothing illegal here.... dumb? yes. Heresay? yes
WIth all of this - obviously what is being ignored is we have two state officials who recorded a conversation with the President so they could give or sell it to the media.
It wasn't leaked. It was provided.
Is that illegal?

Have you looked at Georgia and Federal laws related to it?

If a democratic president had done what he did, would you be defending the Democratic president that lost his second term, for the same actions as Trump has done?

Yep. I would. You will never find one post from me discussing impeaching Obama. I thought the WJC impeachment was stupid too. Trump is done in less than three weeks. Who will you blame for all your ills then? Scapegoat will be long gone. Issues will still be here.

Trump is a criminal. Do we accept that?

In America you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Do we still accept that?

Yes.. and there is abundant evidence that Trump is a criminal.

Yet, you most likely turn a blind eye to Biden's graft....Why is that?

Because there is NO graft.. Just more of Trump's slander. Trump has a long track record for lies, intimidation and extortion.

 

[surada]

It can't be too comfortable to tell the President that he's full of shit:

Or that he and Brian Kemp are stealing Trump blind. He's busy stealing votes from Trump while
Trump is asking him to find some.

Raffensperger and Kemp are two rino republicans who sunk millions into Dominion vote stealing machines
for the entire state who should actually be in jail for election fraud, of which there is much in Georgia.

It's a hoot that all you folks crying over the past two months over election irregularities can't present anything but innuendo and then when it hits you in your face you're in denial. Tell us, in all the manual recounts of paper ballots conducted where did they come up with a descrepancy caused by those Dominion voting machines?

It's a hoot how your idiot-mesmerizing press omits facts that support President Trump but plan, edit, and publish lying lies that Demmies rejoice in that were actually the sins of the Clinton war room, George Soros, and rich tricksters who cheated other people out of their intellectual properties, then turned around making billions off someone else's brain trust, and if it feels good it's a drug for gullible people who fall for lies that will bury the Constitution in commie hands. Commies make laws that lead to mass murders of peaceful dissenters. Its proponents don't want even a whisper of opposition, by any means possible including slavery, justice only for themselves, death to dissenters.

Too lazy to move to a real communist society, today's communists prefer telling sweet nothings and cheating at the polls by insider deep state operators with preplanned silencers of the truth. With support of the ignorant and preaching Alinskies tried and true methods, they fool most of the people most of the time usurping thespian tricks to make cheap mush seem like caviar to the unchary.

Trump is determined to overthrow the election.

Trump called Georgia secretary of state nearly 20 times before threatening and likely illegal conversation

President Donald Trump called the Georgia Secretary of State nearly 20 times before his now-infamous call during which he threatened Brad Raffensperger, demanded he "find" votes to overturn the election, and likely committed an illegal act. "Raffensperger received the call from the White House...

www.rawstory.com

He already won. Democrats used every surreptitious trick in the book to steal it for Mother Communista. It takes time and patience to peel the onion. Trump fought every lie the Demonrats hurled at him. He is not breaking any laws going after the truth, and I support him and hope he beats the thugs of the left seeking raw revenge for criminal masterminds Rodham Clinton, Hussein Obama, Maxugly StalkingWaters, Upchuck Shoekickmer, Cheapshot Piglosi, Jarrold-Adam Des Asters, Extortion Joe Bidingtime, et al Demonrat press propaganda specialists.

Trump is handicapped because he is stupid and criminal.

 

[Faun]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

america isnt a democracy you stupid fuck,,,

Dumbfuck, Georgia is a democracy and Impeached Trump threatened Georgia's Secretary of State with "vague criminal consequences" to "find" enough votes to overturn the will of Georgia's voters.

 

[Dogbiscuit]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

More proof of Trump’s corruption.

This is clearly abuse of power.

Trump is engaging in third world tactics. Trump's demand to Raffensperger was simple: My way or else.

I went and read the post...

1) They always fucking lie when they "tell you" what a video says instead of playing it.....they are manipulating
2) Trump's comments were about getting GA to do what they are required to do by going after fraudulent votes and nothing more.
3) Stop spreading propaganda

Show us how it was manipulated.

Your joking right.......you ask me how this is manipulated when the whole call isn't posted just snippets here and there?

On top of this, the call is from a man (not a lawyer) who is trying to get the election people to do their damn job and go after fraudulent votes.........

Honestly, what do you expect Trump to say and do?

But watch the idiot libs try to spin his comments.......

Let's be CLEAR, if Trump was simply soliciting the SOState to .....

to get the election people to do their damn job and go after fraudulent votes.........

Trump would not have told the SOS that he needs to find, 11780 votes so he can win by 1....

Context is explained in post #594.
It wont let me insert the quote/post for some reason.

 

[Faun]

To dimwit Trumpers I say, here we have Trump telling the Georgia Secretary of state to engage in fraud and overthrow the newly elected government. When will Trump be arrested?

We don't know that since we can't listen to your audio, moron.

Fucking moron, of course you can listen to it. You choose not to listen to it.

 

[Care4all]

CNN and MSNBC have acquired the full tape from the Wash Post, and played it.

 

[AntonToo]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

They recounted the same fake and illegal votes without matching the signatures or the voting rolls . Many had even zero signatures
Fake election

Hey bs spreading trumpet, check this out:

GBI finishes signature audit in Cobb County, finds only two mismatches

We break down the audit’s findings, LIVE on Channel 2 Action News at 6 p.m.

www.wsbtv.com

 

[progressive hunter]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

america isnt a democracy you stupid fuck,,,

Dumbfuck, Georgia is a democracy and Impeached Trump threatened Georgia's Secretary of State with "vague criminal consequences" to "find" enough votes to overturn the will of Georgia's voters.

OH tell me more,,,

 

[AntonToo]

AND JUST LIKE THAT TRUMP GOT DEMOCRATS TO DEFEND REPUBLICANS!!!

It's hard to describe just how fucking pathetic you are.

 

[progressive hunter]

AND JUST LIKE THAT TRUMP GOT DEMOCRATS TO DEFEND REPUBLICANS!!!

It's hard to describe just how fucking pathetic you are.

why is that??? dems are defending repubes and its all because of trump,,

this has happened on many subjects over the last 4 yrs,,

 

[Care4all]

I'm clearly saying that your point is incorrect.
The facts don't lead to your conclusion.

Trump asked the person in charge of certifying the number of votes in the election, to "find" another 11,780 (a specific number of votes) that would change the election outcome.

Starting at 2:15 in the clip below, I hear Trump say, "So look, all I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes,..."
He doesnt ask him to find the votes for him. So unless what you are saying is found in the hour long clip, that I admit having not listened to, I believe your statement is out of context.

He mentioned the 11780 votes several times in the conversation.

Mentioning this amount shows his intent was to reverse the result of the election, to his own favor.... not simply to find any fraud there.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yanno...................Georgia only has 16 electoral votes. Granted, whoever wins the state gets all of them, but here's my question...............

Trump lost to Biden 306 to 232 in the electoral college. Now, 306 minus 16 is 290. 232 plus 16 is 248. Even if GA decided to flip, Trump would still lose 290 to 248. Why is it that Trump and his followers have decided to die on this particular hill? Even if GA did flip over to Trump, he'd still lose the election.

This is a huge waste of time for Trump and his supporters. Why can't they just accept the fact that Trump lost, and there is nothing that will change that?

 

[Dogbiscuit]

I'm clearly saying that your point is incorrect.
The facts don't lead to your conclusion.

Trump asked the person in charge of certifying the number of votes in the election, to "find" another 11,780 (a specific number of votes) that would change the election outcome.

Starting at 2:15 in the clip below, I hear Trump say, "So look, all I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes,..."
He doesnt ask him to find the votes for him. So unless what you are saying is found in the hour long clip, that I admit having not listened to, I believe your statement is out of context.

He mentioned the 11780 votes several times in the conversation.

Mentioning this amount shows his intent was to reverse the result of the election, to his own favor.... not simply to find any groundout there.

Context combined with perspective can make it difficult to prove one's "intent".